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I find the nit picking that you are trying to prove your point isn't working. Of all the information provided, it was clear the leaked info was very accurate

My first impression was similar. This looks about the same just gritty. However, after watching all the streamers and VODs though, it is apparent that this is a demo, and there is still a lot more to do. The announcement might have been a forced thing too. Older Diablo systems were used for the sake of ease in pushing out a demo. David Kim in Rykkers stream said something along the lines as, This is all the content we have done and completed so far. Which is not much. "Not even Blizzard soon" shows that as well. As they continue to worldbuild and balance, there will be many changes. The demo in d3 was much different then the game today. The big difference is how they listen to the community. Now that this is shared with the community there will be a lot more voices chiming into this project.
Remember, D3, the Devs ignored a lot of what we were asking for with little information in between Blizzcons. The system failed us which in turn made a failed game. Blizzard knows this. They are already being a lot more open about this game and expectations I hope that continues after Blizzcon.
My wife enjoys diablo 3, I enjoy diablo 2. I think they want 4 to be the combination of both.

Ancient everything BIS gear rank 30 on the ladder with plenty of time to keep pushing If i felt up for it, only playing a few hours each day, never died on hardcore, did all the journeys.. what else is there?
The challenge rifts are okay but not that interesting.
Im bored with this game again quickly after not playing the last 3 seasons.. anyone need a rush or want some gear? I think its time to go back to diablo 2 or divinity orginal sin again

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I remember 1.07 patch Windforce was on eBay for $2,000....

Holy crap.

Just think about what a level 60 inferno quality item is going to go for... especially with inflation compared to that Windforce's price...

Also, on a side note, can we use normal font at least? I don't mind the colors but I hate having to press control and scroll to adjust font sizes.

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I am getting it. you people saying "too much money?"
get a better job... i support things i enjoy in life including diablo and make plenty enough to do so

What an unneccessary comment. I make PLENTY to be able to afford basically anything I want outside of the most lavish cars and houses. I'm not getting the CE because it's "too much money" relative to the throwaway plastic crap inside.

It's much more like "hey these people have been waiting years for this game, we can easily throw in $5-$10 of extras and charge an additional $40+ for these CE versions." CEs have always been an easy cashgrab for major IPs of any producer. Oh, and if you justify doing because you want to "support blizzard" then you are fucking retarded. Blizzard doesn't need any additional support, it's small struggling developers and production companies that do. Every cent you spend on blizzard goes directly into Activi$ions wallet (who was a huge supporter and funder of SOPA). A bill that would have permanently shut down diablofans.com.

You guys are fucking sheep.

^ So what do we get out of that post? That most things are obvious and confirmed and the other few are unconfirmed, but very likely to happen. LOL.

The few that don't match are the 1% which could have easily been changed during the 5 months from the leak to the live demo at Blizzcon. And for all we know they are working on city hubs it would make sense with the public trading to have areas to trade in and big cities make the perfect way to do exactly that.

I think the leak is very true to everything we've seen so far. The release date could also be true (at the time anyway 5 months ago). I predict a March 2021 release date.

Keep as is, but when you pick a talent, it opens up a branch to it, sub-branch.
Make it whole screen or add a scroll. Add more stuff.

I largly agree with or have no opinion on your suggestions but have a few things to add.

1) seasonal expierience
i feel like one month is a bit short. in diablo 3 i need one week to finish a season.
it just feels way to easy and thus unachieving. in diablo 4 i would prefer a longer strength curve.

if you are able to put an end build together within lets say 100h of playing i think its to easy.
one can define the seasonal goals so that an end build is not required. but in diablo 3 what really demotivated me
was beeing able to reskill all the time so there was no need to ever restart with a character except changing the name
and having all the items that i want within 20-40h playtime. farming for better versions of an item is unrewarding.

so i would vote for a season period of 2-4month and a longer progression within it.

2) itemization

i really disliked the multiplication effects of item. this destroyed all choices for how to put a build together. if there are items that double the skill damage the player is forced to use the item if he wants to use that skill. i liked the gameplay changing effects of golden items like "no cooldown" or "triggers ..." or "adds freeze" .. but the damage huge multiplication destroyed every bit of choice.

in my opinion the tier of an item should not be a game changing factor. this will lead to a boring farming for the same item.

since the team wants to make crafting more important why not drop "golden parts" that add traids when crafted into golden items.
if the player can combine them freely and also can find/buy different item bases like sword shaft/blade materials, it opens a
huge choice for custom unique items that can be customized to ones build. espeacially if one adds runewords to it.


3) atmosphere/graphics
i would like to see as much realism as possible. i really liked the lighting, but the character wasnt much effected by it. the area around the player is always lid up, this takes away from the dark athmosphere. there should not be an omni present lightsource walking with the player. if its to dark you can add torches to carry or light spell scrolls. when you stand next to a fire in the village every npc has a strong shadow on his back. but the player is lid as fuck. this takes away the feeling of beeing part of the world. it was in diablo 1 and 2 that the 2D player graphic fitted perfectly into the world. to achiev this in 3D graphic you need handle the player like everything else in the game.

also the player idle could change depending on the environment and status. having the player idle holding the club heavily breathing for minutes after the fight feels unrealtic. have the player graphic relax when not in a fight, or sit down. let them become a part of the world to make the player feel like he is.

i wish corpses wouldnt immediatly vanish. at least have them lying for some time. they can even have an effect on the gameplay. slowed when walking over corpses or less effective dash. wheather and environment effects should also impact attack animations and gameplay whenever it is realistic.

give projectiles a realistic speed. it will be hard to avoid arrows than, but it will force us to fight more strategic and ultimatly creating a more complex gameplay.

make the death individual to the death cause, dynamic mutilation woud really add to the game. especially for player deaths and pvp. execution animations spice up pvp and makes the player feel more human in the game. getting once head choped of by another player or a skelleton makes the world much more horror. gory like in "for honor" but based on the attack type and much less flashy.

4) paragon
get rid of it. its an abomination. lvl 100, make it unreachable.

5) detail
a game with so much love from its community needs to get a lot of love from the developers. dont write of an idea because its to time costly, put every bit of detail into the game.

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My all time favorite would have to be when Marius enters Act 3:

"My companion drew in the dank, cold air of the Tomb. It seemed to... strengthen him. I stood in the doorway between Light and Dark. What was left of my sanity implored me not to enter... but that voice... was just a whisper now."

Gives me chills its so poetic on a man losing his sanity. Like a Poe short story

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