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i really don t like these changes...

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At first I was a bit disappointed, but actually it's quite awesome, if this is just regular leather armor!

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I just looked up the 2009 blizzcon schedule and there was 3 hours diablo related. WTF lol.... Bashiok made it sounds like this was the blizzcon to be a diablo fan....

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Guys are right diablo was before wow, you can say diablo > wow, you won't make a mistake ; )

i'd rather say Diablo =/= WoW to make it more valid
each has its own good and bad things and even though WoW got more from Diablo (and Diablo II) it still doesnt change the fact that if some features fit, they're good for the game no matter which game they come from!

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ps someone ragging on this more then me he said something like the tree skills the purple items and level caps from wow something like that...not to burst ur bubble but....alot of features from wow originated from D1 D2 and LoD and as for alot of other games and just like MOST GAMES. If I make a game right now I would put aspects of other games into that game because i liked it and thoses games where or still are fun to this day...hence the talent trees in WoW came from Diablo universe its self no if ands or buts... blizz said them selves on that one...

~Mike~

Now that I think about it, you're right. WoW has borrowed a LOT from D2/D1, so taking something from WoW isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's just trolling and fanboyism. Lol, who honestly cares what game people play? Your nerdiness is better than another's? Come on, lol.

I'm more excited about the hint Bashiok gave in his last post: "There'll be different end game content than D2. That'll remain mysterious for now."

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Oh, great. Another game where they try to control too much what is going to happen instead of making something and letting it grow with the community. You know what that makes? Games that gets boring fast. The actual level cap is of no concern to me: its how it looks like they want the experience to be specific, that they calculate every move and make everything so that it fits exactly.

In multiplayer games, other players decide what "happens", I.E. the builds and playstyles for everyone to copy, the most desirable weapons. It's near equally as out of hand of any individual player that comes along, with the aggreated work of a few early community members determining everyone else's experience. The difference is that what the "players" make is usually a small handful of cookie cutters or highly repetitive activities like boss runs, because that is what emerges as the "best" when you just roll some random numbers instead of a developer trying to balance things... the latter of which only happens when they can control and test for most variables.

You are spot-on in recognizing this team is taking a far more "structured" approach to the endgame than D2 did, but considering the joke of (im)balance D2 endgame has always been, I find that very welcome.

I'm not in disagreement with you, but I think there's a balance in between to be achieved. Despite what happened with D2, I've seen games (though my best examples would be some not very well known MMORPGs) which would have been nothing if the game was designed the way Blizzard (and other developpers) design their games.

Even if D2 had repetitive boss runs and rushing all over, it was such a grand hit. Why? Yes, there are major flaws that appears after years, but what we can't prove is, what if the game was designed with a lot more structure? Would it still has the same feeling and charms? I believe not, far from it.


Its hard to put these thoughts into words anyway. A few lines to resume my thoughts:

A game with too many rules and restrictions is a game without a "soul". A game with a "soul" is one that feels more than "just another game" because it was designed with passion and not with restraint. A game with a "soul" is a work of art (and I'm not just talking about the visuals/graphics). A hint: most games, especially in the last decade, are "soulless" by my definition and opinion.

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If I was blizzard (im not) but if i were..

Much like the item system of previous games, where you take a base item (sword) and apply modifiers to it:

• Fire Sword
• Fire Sword of Malice
• Excellent Fire Sword of Malice

With 3D, versus the 2D sprites of DI and DII, I would imagine you could do the same thing visually.

• Fire Sword ( would have a fire effect added )
• Sword of Malice ( would have 3D nails sticking out of it )
• Axe of Malice ( would the same 3D nails sticking out of it, only its applied to a different 3d model )
• Massive Fire Sword of Malice ( weapon would be larger, have a fire effect and have nails sticking out of if )

This concept allows them to create massive amounts of item, by creating base models, and applying effects that both modify the model itself, as well as visual effects.

With 3D, the artists no longer have to physically create actual images of every item they want to appear, so I would imagine the amount of items will be far larger and more unique.