ok I just wanted to state something I'm sick of everyone talking about this....what he was trying to get across was that the fact that gaming has changed since 2000....
Diablo 3 has changed ALOT of things since then...what hes saying is after you get all this sweet distinct gear from inferno....what next? why did I get this sweet gear and put all this forth effort to get all this sweet items(obvisually theres gonna be expansions)....what he considers "end game" in Diablo is stuff like diablo clone or uber trist...hes just mad that cause they just added another diff and called it end game....
if you watch the video(which I suggest you do before posting you cant say something because you didnt watch the vid)he even says....
"before it was hell with no end game...that they needed end game...so if there was no inferno it would still b hell (which he has a point) what hes saying is they slaped another diff on and called it end game when really your back and point a, because there is no end game....if there was no inferno there would only b hell am I right is sixen right? I think he is cause thats technally what it is...sry for the rant or trolling its just people on not understanding him or even I guess me on this situation of end game...its just after I get the best gear the best everything with good build...i want a d clone or a uber trist to really see what my char can do (other than pvp..which I mess with a lil)
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Jun 19, 2011Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
well i personally dont care really as long as theres something that i goofed onQuote from Punch you in the Jeans
What's wrong with putting a cap on the amount of times someone respecs? Like a limit of one time per player..
Jun 19, 2011the thing is no matter how much we all will be a lil noobish...soo idk why people making a big deal about it causeee im sure all of us will be a lil noobish and do 1 lil mistake soo ya its for the casual gamer and ya for noobs but its also for us fan boys who want to figure everyhting out about the game so really if ur a hard core gamer u should be happy cause u can spend more time playing ur chars and stuff then re rolling playing leaching/runing threw game...if ur a hard core gammer like u say u are u shouldnt let specing interfier how you play is how you play you dont have to use respec if that makes u feel less hardcore.Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
they put all this stuff in there because everyone plays a lil different soooo you might not like specing but i do and vis virsa with anyhthing else...ps d2 everyone was always the same stat points and all thats one reason why they took stat points away enough stg for equip, enough dex for equip/sheild block, rest vit/energy (most likly never engy enless mana sheild)...sooo and ever if u where "perfect" if someone else was JUT LIKE YOU in D3 its not gonna be like that its just in stead of 1 or 2 perfect ways theres like 10 15 maybe
sorry for wall txt just again people need to think before they speak
Jun 17, 2011Posted in: Lore & Storyline
i said the same thing in anouther fourm that they where only in the spirt form not their "True Form" so we will seeQuote from Macros
OK..... In Diablo 1, all we did was kill Prince Albrecht, who's body Diablo was using at the time. The champion (=wanderer) stuck the soul stone in his own head, thinking he could control it. Of course, this was Diablo's plan all along and he had probably even been brainwashing him the entire time while you were going through deeper and deeper levels of the madness that he conjured up.
In Diablo 2, we kill both Mephisto and Diablo's hosts. Then we take the soulstones (which are what contains their actual spirits and is keeping them on the mortal plane), and destroy them in the hellforge. Presumably, this merely releases the souls kept within. I haven't seen anything that says it's actually supposed to kill the Prime Evils. It just returns them to the "dark abyss that spawned them" is what I think Tyrael said. So, from the abyss, their souls are free to return to hell (presumably after a while) and re-inhabit their OWN bodies (which are presumably still in hell, since that's where they were banished from).
So they never really died in the first place... And now that the Worldstone is destroyed, they can freely travel to Sanctuary in their own, physical forms. Instead of just being a spirit that can inhabit other people's bodies. Since I think the potential of the individual hosts were keeping them from utilising their full powers (hence why Baal was the strongest of the three, he had the most powerful host), this time they'll be much more powerful.
Now, I'm guessing the only way to truly kill a demon is to destroy it's physical form. So if we defeat them in Diablo 3, they should be really dead this time.
Edit: Oh yeah, it's been confirmed for years now that Diablo is coming back in D3.
Jun 15, 2011Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
ive been saying this since they announced the 4 player cap...personally i think they did it because noone made a big up roar about it...look at the way every one bitched about the graphics and art style...(which i didnt mind personally)they made it a slight gritier/darker (not much) but they still did something about it because we said we wanted it that way...personally i think they if anything should meet half way...have 5 chars in a game come onnnnn 1 of every class at least? plz? it just adds flavor too the game..p.s i ahve like 10+ friends (no joke) that are getting d3 and i have to choose only 3? come onnn....didnt they say one of main focus of d3 is co op? i kno they mostly mean features..but COME ONNNNNN LOLQuote from midnighttempest_5881738
A lot of you reply with the argument that "This was what Blizzard came up with as the most optimum and fun gaming experience".
But why should we let Blizzard spoon feed us into deciding "what's the most fun"? Why should we let Blizzard determine for us how exactly we should play our games?
We should be given the option to have at least 8 players in an online game to preserve that tradition from D2. If some players are against having too much spell effects and pixel mess on the screen, then let them have the option to limit the player vacancy slots in their games. If some players like me wish to have the same 8 men chaotic gameplay from D2, let us have that option too!!!
Jun 15, 2011Posted in: Lore & Storyline
On that note and the whole necro thing wut if this so called necro is trying to corrupt trang-oul and release him to try to dominate heaven and hell and try to do his own thing you know?> idk we will seeQuote from Winged
It's a really cool idea! This topic is a great thing to brain storm about in particular. We have to keep in mind though, we have to assume that the lore of the Diablo universe will be the structure to which the story is based off of.
Jun 4, 2011Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
ahh i got ya well thanks and ps ur guys podcasts are awsome listen to everyone of them...i havent watched the trailers since first played i guess ill take a look...and wasnt destroying the worldstone a bad thing tho? for humans heaven and hell? i thought the WS hid sanc from heaven and hell plus keeping the humans weak...so is that the big question? wut really was going on when tyeral destroyed it..bahh I WANT THE BETA lolQuote from ScyberDragon
Diablo's soulstone was destroyed. Watch the ending cinematic it shows you returning to hellforge to destroy it .
As for Baal's, he soulstone was used to corrupt the worldstone. so, when Tyrael destroyed the world stone, he destroyed his soul stone as well.
Jun 4, 2011ok i love diablo...duh we all doo...i kno alot of facts about diablo diablo 2 and lod and alot of d3....wut i dont get is for one...in diablo 2 didnt we only destroy only mephs soulstone not diablos or baals? its just a question....thats wut i dont get everyone keeps sayin...and thinking that we destroyed all 3 prime evils soulstones when really we only did mephs...and plus diablo baal and meph wernt they banned from hell from the lesser evils? soo really in diablo 2 it really seems like they did all that just to get back to hell if u ask me...idk your thoughts?Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
Apr 12, 2011Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
lol big timmy have you seen the skill trees just by skills alone there is 15 different things you can choose. (each class has 3 skill trees that are totally different things than the next.) not to mention gear/runes/traits/charms lol i could go on....people kill me READ SOMETHING OR WATCH A VIDEO before u post something PLEASEQuote from bigtimmy
that game looks on par with wow, + a little extra work on the characters. none the less, gameplay looks limited with the classes they have and while i think it would be cool as 2 play for a month, it would probably end up in the same dusty old box as Conan.
Apr 12, 2011Posted in: Diablo III General DiscussionQuote from zerg4hire
I'll get straight to the point.
- Diablo 3 engine was developed in the year 2004, when they started from scratch.
- The graphics and the game mechanics is limited to what they've allowed the engine to handle.
Dull Game mechanics that is already out-dated.
- Auction house, Basic skill tree, Dull skill animation (Chain Lighting, Fireball, Whirlwind, Meteor)
The graphics is not at its top notch.
- Characters look exactly like what they've put out in the year 2004. That is 7 year difference from
then to now. SC2 has re-modeled everything, added new lightings with the enhancement of their engine.
But we have yet to see anything of this sort for Diablo 3. (Chances are, highly unlikely)
(Everyout is related to graphics, your animation, your character, the scenery. This means we'll
be seeing less attractive, and less clearer images. Something that will hunt down Diablo 3 for
years to come after release.)
You can't expect to release a game with an out-dated engine. The game just feels like a do-over from many of other previous RPG games we've played in the past. The skills, mechanics and graphics are similar to what we've experienced in the year 2004~2008. In my opinion, as much as I've wanted to play Diablo 3, the game will be somewhat "dull". Maybe, because we've played Diablo 2 for such a long time, and the graphic improvement has actually backfired, due to being less realistic. (Diablo 3 is meant to be gory, hell-like, but with WoW graphics implemented, it makes it much less attractive.)
Diablo 3 would have created a big sensation to gaming market if it released somewhere in 2008. The time difference between the year you make your engine and the release of the game has to be somewhat reasonable. This is a common problem why game looks so unattractive by the release date. Our expectation for games increase every year. In the year 2007, our expectation was lower than 2008, and same for the year 2009. Now we're finally go to a point where Diablo 3 just doesn't seem all that special in the year of 2011.
In my opinion, here is a good example of "work in time-line" game.
Game: Blade & Soul by NCSOFT.
The project began on 2007, and the release date is 4Q 2011. That is 4 year development.
You cant help but to accept that this game looks "revolutionary" and "eye-appealing".
My ultimate question is, will Diablo 3 live up to our standards? What kind of consequences will they be facing if they delayed another year? to 2012 ?
lmfao ok not to troll or anything BUT ARE YOU SERIOUS!!! i dare you to look at one video gameplay of diablo 2 then look at a gameplay video of diablo 3....HAVE YOU EVER PLAYED Diablo 1 or 2? if you did then the graphics for this game ARE AMAZING annddd ps like some plp said 2004 was when a whole different team was developing and WOLE different game like pretty much COMPLETELY they didnt so anything about a engine they basicly bought one from havok then anytime they needed to do any kind of tweeks or ANYTHING to it they had to get permission from them...it was just a mess...sooo blizz as they always do came out and made thier own engine just so they could tweek things when they wanted to and it accually came out better then the havok engine...soo plz stop trolling about graphics/art style graphics are awsome art style is awsome and it will get darker grittier and gloomier as we go its all been stated plz watch blizzcons/interviews/info about something before u try to troll it...its really annoying to put someone stright when i could be typing about other things
Mar 24, 2011Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
I agree 1000 percent I think that's its kinds stupid that one of each class can't b in one game it really takes from gameplay....I understand what tghey are tryin to do with the whole 4 player but they can make it equaly as hard with 5 players I have plenty of frikends who want to plat and different classes I would like to play with as many as possible and as many combinagtons as well forgive spellin at work on phoneQuote from greekhero
Okay okay, before you start pulling out my hair because you've seen this topic all over different types of forums, but i have to ask it.
Does any one think that the player limit of 4 for each game is set a little to low?
Personally i think they should just raise it up to 5 players in each game, allowing one of each class to play at a time.
Since Blizzard spends so much time on creating the characters, not allowing one of them to be able to be playable really takes something away from the game. Raising it to the previous number of 8 in D2, would be ridiculously to much for this fast past, spamming skills, destory everything on sight,kind of game(So much would be going on you wont even be able to see your character).
Any one disagree / agree with me? Plz share
Mar 21, 2011wow has everyone forgot about market 101 about supply and demand? you buy something that u need...so dose everyone else sooo the demand of something is high depending on supply determains the price of the item....thats why something that everyone has (example sigons set) really if u think about it...its really always in demand (even more for ladder characters) but yet the supply is so high that is why its considered "useless" its really not "useless i think prolly sigons sets is one of the most used sets besides like ik and tals. prices are always determained by the supply AND demand. soooo in this class today today we learned it dosnt matter really about the demand more than the supply the higher the supply the lower it will costs because people are trying to get rid of their supply. it just depends on the supply and demand on the item. if noone has the demand of what someone wants then the price rises if theres to much supply the price dropes got it? bahhPosted in: Diablo III General Discussion
Mar 17, 2011Well for all you android lovers out there idk if anyone knows yet or not but there is a app out on the android market called diablo discussion where u can talk about ANYTHING...the reason why i bring this up and here above all places is for one to get more people on there from here, for 2 i love this website and everyone on it so i was wondering if diablofans was maybe thinking about putting something like this on the market to where u could write forums easy or things of that nature. i just wanted to bring that up i thought it was pretty cool and i think it would be awsome if diablofans did something like thatPosted in: Site Feedback
Mar 13, 2011ok my turn...for one everything in life is about balance. You have to balance things out or nothing will work...You got to have a little Ying with your Yang kinda thing.Posted in: General Discussion (non-Diablo)
I'm a American, one about the taxes/government I think that there should be a set percentage of taxes the more you make the more you put in sorry...I make 12k a year and live good... I cant see someone make a couple millions a year bitching up a storm...They can afford 200k in taxes if I can afford 200 bucks...catch my drift? Their 500 bucks could be like my 5 everyone is different...
Government needs only for fairness and homeland security anything else is up to the people...personally I think the party system in Amercia is dumb people here in the U.S think there are only Democrats and Republicans...and they basicly brainwashed everyone into thinking that.
The whole health care thing yes it would raise taxes plus why alot of people dont like the idea is because they said it would take competition out of the private secture and thus have a regualted price on everyhting kinda like gas...Personally I think competition in America is dead its been dead for about 10 years now....
Why do I say this? go into any store ANY store ANY where and I bet you that the price of what you want is around the same....Just like gas prices here you go to one store its 3.50 another is 3.49 and another is 3.51....REALLY?
Your telling me that if you had a gas station that sold gas at 3.00 a gallon and I sold gas at 1.50 a gallon....I WOULD MAKE SO MUCH MORE MONEY THAN YOU because you are getting NOTHING because everyone is coming to my gas station...Yes something might be a little cheaper than here or there....but if I'm paying 4 bucks for a gallon of milk at Wal-mart...And this place is selling it for 2 dollars a gallon don't you think Wal-mart wouldn't sell one gallon of milk?
It's dumb we all are dumb now I see why people think we are sooo stupid...What it is, is they don't give 2 shits about you me or any one else you know why? They have enough money that they don't care if you never come back EVER they don't. My pizza shop that is owned by a nobody...we don't care if you say your never coming back cause we have such a fan base it dose not matter LOL... So if a little pizza shop on the corner thinks that what do you think Wal-mart thinks? My point....errrroooo Wal-mart takes compitors coupons...well guess what so dose everyone else now.
Its not about how much they can save you anymore its about how much they can make without pissing you off.and everything trickles up as much as it dose down...Yes I know with out the super rich and all that none of us would have jobs but think about it this way too....if none of us had money to come in your shop to buy anything how would you make money in the first place ahhahah I spun your head a little bit didn't I? first thing in america you have to SPEND money in order to MAKE money....meaning cutting prices giving more jobs more raises the reason why america is in the spot that we are in now all has to do with greed the bigger guy not wanting to give any piece of the pie at all and that is hurting them...why you say that? cause in order to run a bussiness you have to get money the only way to get money is for people to have money
Mar 13, 2011EvilBeanz posted a message on Monthly Fee/Subscription? Yes or No, if so how much?see people dont get it....its not the servers or the dlc its TIME how much time can i fit into today on D3 oo 3 hours maybe? i want to put in as many hours as the next fan boy but sometimes you just dont have it EXPL( work school kids girlfriend fun time at bars/clubs/house partys) i love diablo 3 i love games but i only have a certian amout of time i can put to video games dailey weekly and monthly....i dont want to feel like im wasting money ie not playing cause im so busy...if i want to play i want to sit chill and play not worry that i atleast need to get 2-6 hours on it today cause i paid 15 bucks for something that could be free and be less stressfull for the day...vedio games are saposed to relieve stress not add on to it...im sry i only have a lil time for video games and i dont want to worry that i cant play today or this week cause i this or that to do....NO FEES dont tell them U WOULD DO IT cause then THEY WILL....its not about that you can afford it...its that you want more money in your poket not theirs.... people amaze me sometimes when they say OO YAAA I WOULD DO THAT....15 bucks a month gets expensive espcially when u have rent food back up cable internet car gas insurance fun money ect ect ect so in the end of the day its less money for you more money to them...ya right nty...Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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Jan 19, 2012Posted in: News
same here i liked it how it was seems like they are looking for ways just to delay the game thoses systems was fine? why change and why that derastic of a change? what if we want to pick everything up? seems too me like they liked the system but found out plp down the road really to pick everything up because its alot easier to break down /sell which means richer for you and not for blizz....im not one to break out the tin foil hat but....Quote from Vivecstel
i really don t like these changes...
Dec 11, 2011i really really like the video...but like some plp said...it just feels like somethings missing...maybe the real cains voice idk...but i do agree awsome vid but just somethings missing...the blacksoulstone one was REALLY good imo (prolly cause it gave a lil story on what us "fan boys" dont really kno yet about....maybe thats why we like the black soulstone soo much?)Posted in: News
Oct 7, 2010Posted in: News
well if you look...really if it ant diablo its really nothing there its tournys and everything else i just think they will give 3 hours of stright content news how the systems work things like that...i think they want to give one big bang and see how we like it and that whole rating news come on its gotta be june 28 2011(its s tues when all new games come out usally)Quote from axion
I just looked up the 2009 blizzcon schedule and there was 3 hours diablo related. WTF lol.... Bashiok made it sounds like this was the blizzcon to be a diablo fan....
Sep 21, 2010Posted in: News
all im saying is that the reasons they stated is not the "main" reason its really to make it eaiser to add content in future expansions...they could do the same things rather it was 99 60 or even lvl 1 lolQuote from FingolfinGR
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Guys are right diablo was before wow, you can say diablo > wow, you won't make a mistake ; )
i'd rather say Diablo =/= WoW to make it more valid
each has its own good and bad things and even though WoW got more from Diablo (and Diablo II) it still doesnt change the fact that if some features fit, they're good for the game no matter which game they come from!
there was something else i wanted to add but forgot HAHA
I REMEMBER NOW LOL
i think really they are now working on ideas about expanion and that is a influence. Personally that whole thing with that guy posting that pic on the internet from gamestop (rather its true or not) but that came out like 6 months ago or more and half the games on their no one knew the release dates to and almost all of them that I can see are ethier on the dot or a few months/days off it says 3/1/11 for D3...personally i still think 6/29/11 but who knows sorry for off topic trying to mention it for the expansion part on why they are doing lvl caps...who knows we will find out ethier way HAHA
Sep 21, 2010Posted in: News
yes thats what im excited about too but the onlything i just dont want to beat the game in a week and be like WOW THATS IT....this is the most excited ive been about a game EVER...and to me when i got a 99 it felt more like i got something done espically since i played ladder(even tho they wont have a ladder...)Quote from sef239_1122397
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ps someone ragging on this more then me he said something like the tree skills the purple items and level caps from wow something like that...not to burst ur bubble but....alot of features from wow originated from D1 D2 and LoD and as for alot of other games and just like MOST GAMES. If I make a game right now I would put aspects of other games into that game because i liked it and thoses games where or still are fun to this day...hence the talent trees in WoW came from Diablo universe its self no if ands or buts... blizz said them selves on that one...
Now that I think about it, you're right. WoW has borrowed a LOT from D2/D1, so taking something from WoW isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's just trolling and fanboyism. Lol, who honestly cares what game people play? Your nerdiness is better than another's? Come on, lol.
I'm more excited about the hint Bashiok gave in his last post: "There'll be different end game content than D2. That'll remain mysterious for now."
Sep 21, 2010Posted in: News
I couldn't agree more to anything on this site and one reason why I'm going into computer programming and visuals to make GOOD GAMES AGIN. The funny thing is people don't realize the programmer has all the power...for one it will "feel" almost like you are trying to get to 99 even tho its only 60. I am not saying we will be grinding like in D2 but people don't realize that in the gaming world the programmer owns everything they can make 10 lvls feel like 99 or 99 lvls feel like 10 it doesn't matter its all about numbers and how they want it to "feel". the only thing I like about this news is it at least tells us there is gonna be 2 expansions or more...that's it...Quote from SFJake
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Oh, great. Another game where they try to control too much what is going to happen instead of making something and letting it grow with the community. You know what that makes? Games that gets boring fast. The actual level cap is of no concern to me: its how it looks like they want the experience to be specific, that they calculate every move and make everything so that it fits exactly.
In multiplayer games, other players decide what "happens", I.E. the builds and playstyles for everyone to copy, the most desirable weapons. It's near equally as out of hand of any individual player that comes along, with the aggreated work of a few early community members determining everyone else's experience. The difference is that what the "players" make is usually a small handful of cookie cutters or highly repetitive activities like boss runs, because that is what emerges as the "best" when you just roll some random numbers instead of a developer trying to balance things... the latter of which only happens when they can control and test for most variables.
You are spot-on in recognizing this team is taking a far more "structured" approach to the endgame than D2 did, but considering the joke of (im)balance D2 endgame has always been, I find that very welcome.
I'm not in disagreement with you, but I think there's a balance in between to be achieved. Despite what happened with D2, I've seen games (though my best examples would be some not very well known MMORPGs) which would have been nothing if the game was designed the way Blizzard (and other developpers) design their games.
Even if D2 had repetitive boss runs and rushing all over, it was such a grand hit. Why? Yes, there are major flaws that appears after years, but what we can't prove is, what if the game was designed with a lot more structure? Would it still has the same feeling and charms? I believe not, far from it.
Its hard to put these thoughts into words anyway. A few lines to resume my thoughts:
A game with too many rules and restrictions is a game without a "soul". A game with a "soul" is one that feels more than "just another game" because it was designed with passion and not with restraint. A game with a "soul" is a work of art (and I'm not just talking about the visuals/graphics). A hint: most games, especially in the last decade, are "soulless" by my definition and opinion.
yes it will "feel" like you getting "more" from each level...the thing is why not do it for 99? or 70? or even 65? get my point they can make it "feel" like you are getting ALOT done in 60 levels...or 70...or 80... I personally think the only reason why they are doing this is to "give" more content or "feel" like they are giving more content because you got 10 more levels and a new act in the expansion...which I don't mind....its not that bad...this whole post was to agree and to let people know that it doesn't matter they could still make it 99, a little less grinding and still add the same type of end game...
we will see... ethier way it will be a awsome game
ps someone ragging on this more then me he said something like the tree skills the purple items and level caps from wow something like that...not to burst ur bubble but....alot of features from wow originated from D1 D2 and LoD and as for alot of other games and just like MOST GAMES. If I make a game right now I would put aspects of other games into that game because i liked it and thoses games where or still are fun to this day...hence the talent trees in WoW came from Diablo universe its self no if ands or buts... blizz said them selves on that one...Meaning I bet you that there was at least one guy out there waiting for wow to come out and seen the skill trees and hates diablo(idk how anyone can...). He would say something like *holds nose(do this for real and read whats next out loud u will get my drift ;)) "OMG thoses talent trees look just like diablos skill trees HOW GAY"... LOL
Jul 23, 2010Posted in: News
I agree but I hope that there will be "lots of shakos and enigmas" meaning there will be ALOT of high tier armor/weps so that we all dont have the same damn thing on even if it dose look a little different... I want to play the game 6 months from release and still find or someone show me that armor I have never seen before or the stats or anything like that... THOUSANDS AND THOOUSANDS OF ITEMS that we all dont know what to do with.Quote from nalberg
If I was blizzard (im not) but if i were..
Much like the item system of previous games, where you take a base item (sword) and apply modifiers to it:
- Fire Sword
- Fire Sword of Malice
- Excellent Fire Sword of Malice
With 3D, versus the 2D sprites of DI and DII, I would imagine you could do the same thing visually.
- Fire Sword ( would have a fire effect added )
- Sword of Malice ( would have 3D nails sticking out of it )
- Axe of Malice ( would the same 3D nails sticking out of it, only its applied to a different 3d model )
- Massive Fire Sword of Malice ( weapon would be larger, have a fire effect and have nails sticking out of if )
This concept allows them to create massive amounts of item, by creating base models, and applying effects that both modify the model itself, as well as visual effects.
With 3D, the artists no longer have to physically create actual images of every item they want to appear, so I would imagine the amount of items will be far larger and more unique.
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