I think that if that this can be solved if the crafting system for crafting items was without as many boundaries as in d2. For example in d2 you had specific recipies. What if with crafting, a Ruby hadded these types of attributes, a saphire added these types of attributes, an emrald added these types of attributes. Then you can mix and match in crafting. Say ur class needs the ruby attributes but would also like the emrald attributes then you can craft with a combination of gems to make a hybrid type of crafted item (like, Ruby + Ruby + Embrald + Jewel + weapon = mash up crafted item). And with the amount of gems in d3 that would literally mean infinite possibilities for items.
loosing XP wont be a good death punishment. only 60 levels and we should be at 60 not too long after finishing hell. so basically once u have finished hell and gotten to 60 the loss of xp on death means nothing to u.
the solution is hardcore with a softcore pvp system
I guess its all just about trying to provide more incentive for people to attend the events in person. Of course everybody would prefer to see high quality official videos as compared to shaky hidden cameras. If they allow people to record everything with cameras ( by lifting the rule on cameras) then people will bring their own HD capable devices and make high quality videos, reducing the incentive to attend the event because you will be able to see everything online in hd.
Right so then why didn't they just make their own official gameplay video or at least lift the rule for no cameras in there? Either way there will be hidden camera's getting a shot of it so rather than having that happen, they can just make their own video which would defeat the purpose of trying to sneak a glimpse of the gameplay.
they did make their own gameplay videos... many of them... however it doesnt make sense for them to make a hd video of everything. there still needs to be a strong incentive for people to actually attend events such as blizcon. what is the point of going to blizcon if they are going to make a hd video of everthing there. some things/experiences need to be limited to people actually attending the events, that way they attract the crowds to attend.
what exactly do you mean by lift the rule for no cameras... you can get cameras these days embedded in a pen, in a button on your shirt or just about anything else. you would need a swat team to ensure that people dont have cameras lol...
they are bliz, they know how to be realistic. do you honestly expect a gamescon or blizcon to be held without people recording footage? It cannot be stopped. Besides, all of the "leaded" footage is gameplay which bliz specifically chose to show to the public in their demos. Its not like the recorded footage is something from their development environment which they did not intend to show to the public.
i hope there will be more variety in the skills we regularly use in battle rather than the many d2 builds based on 1 key spell ( bliz sorc, fb sorc etc)
Hasn't there already been like a million of these threads?
edit: your comparing d3 to MMORPG's. d3 IS NOT AN MMORPG
the only thing mmorpg is relivant to is the number of people playing on a server at any given time. Thats not even close to what im talking about.
Erm? You were trying to sell the idea that the MMORPG's that you mentioned (Ever and WOW) receive regular nonstop content updated because of their service fee's. You will find that most MMO's charge a monthly service fee to maintain the MASSIVE amount of hardware that is needed in servers and bandwidth to maintain the game. Since d3 isn't an MMO it won't require such a massive hardware infrastructure such as WOW. So there is no need for a service fee to maintain the servers, bliz will more than cover it's cost through regular sales.
So should we pay $15 a month for a game that doesn't need subscription money to be maintained? No...
The diablo crew are full time employees at blizzard, not contracters. once d3 is released they will most likely work on fixing balance issues and other things they figure out once the game is released. So should we pay $15 a month for work that the full time bliz employees are going to do regardless? No...
Since d3 isn't an MMO which requires a massive amount of hardware and bandwidth to maintain I cannot for the life of me justify paying a service fee.
This is completly wrong.
MMORPG fees are not only for the server maintance. There are paid mmorpg out there wich servers don't cost 10% of the free bnet 2.
MMORPG are games that works only with constant implementation - and are the games were constant implementations are very welcomed by the players unlike shooters and rts. So a MMORPG is not only a game with massive servers, they are games that reproduce then self through time. For example: take wow classic just before TBT come out and compere to WoW classic in the release. The amount of content added via patchs were enormous, almost another game.
Ofc fees are needed for the maintance, but i believe that the server costs are not heavy compered to what they gain via fees. And the reason why players submite thenself to pay fees are the hopes for constant implementation.
What is completely wrong? Companies that produce/support MMORPG's need a constant income to support their game, both in terms of development and in terms of servers and bandwidth. If a company does not make much money in the natural sales of its games (such as blizard does) then of course they have to charge monthly fees for more than just the servers/bandwidth. If they only charge monthly fees to cover the server costs and bandwidth then where does the money to pay their staff come from? its just common sense...
Bliz does not need our subscription fees to pay for their staff because the money that they will make from the organic sales will cover their staff expenses BY A LONG WAY.
So with the staffing costs out of the only thing that may cause a subscription fee would be if the game requires a lot of bandwidth and/or a large server infrastructure. But because D3 is not an mmorpg this is not the case.
Everybody in this thread trying to justify that d3 can/should have a monthly fee by relating it to MMORPG's. DIABLO 3 IS NOT AN MMORPG!
Patches and expansion packs will come for d3 REGARDLESS because they have full time staff and the server infrastructure wont be very demanding because d3 is not an MMORPG. So how can you possibly justify a subscription?
As for how far will the game go without a paid subscription? Games like d1/d2 have a lot of replayability in them and the endgame is really only just the beginning. Collecting rare items / crafting rare items and creating godlike characters are some of the most rewarding things in d2, all of which take a very very long time to achieve. With the rune skills system coming in the variety of possible builds will be insane! So I think that d3 will go a long way with regular patching and the occasional expansion pack.
Hasn't there already been like a million of these threads?
edit: your comparing d3 to MMORPG's. d3 IS NOT AN MMORPG
the only thing mmorpg is relivant to is the number of people playing on a server at any given time. Thats not even close to what im talking about.
Erm? You were trying to sell the idea that the MMORPG's that you mentioned (Ever and WOW) receive regular nonstop content updated because of their service fee's. You will find that most MMO's charge a monthly service fee to maintain the MASSIVE amount of hardware that is needed in servers and bandwidth to maintain the game. Since d3 isn't an MMO it won't require such a massive hardware infrastructure such as WOW. So there is no need for a service fee to maintain the servers, bliz will more than cover it's cost through regular sales.
So should we pay $15 a month for a game that doesn't need subscription money to be maintained? No...
The diablo crew are full time employees at blizzard, not contracters. once d3 is released they will most likely work on fixing balance issues and other things they figure out once the game is released. So should we pay $15 a month for work that the full time bliz employees are going to do regardless? No...
Since d3 isn't an MMO which requires a massive amount of hardware and bandwidth to maintain I cannot for the life of me justify paying a service fee.
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the solution is hardcore with a softcore pvp system
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they did make their own gameplay videos... many of them... however it doesnt make sense for them to make a hd video of everything. there still needs to be a strong incentive for people to actually attend events such as blizcon. what is the point of going to blizcon if they are going to make a hd video of everthing there. some things/experiences need to be limited to people actually attending the events, that way they attract the crowds to attend.
what exactly do you mean by lift the rule for no cameras... you can get cameras these days embedded in a pen, in a button on your shirt or just about anything else. you would need a swat team to ensure that people dont have cameras lol...
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What is completely wrong? Companies that produce/support MMORPG's need a constant income to support their game, both in terms of development and in terms of servers and bandwidth. If a company does not make much money in the natural sales of its games (such as blizard does) then of course they have to charge monthly fees for more than just the servers/bandwidth. If they only charge monthly fees to cover the server costs and bandwidth then where does the money to pay their staff come from? its just common sense...
Bliz does not need our subscription fees to pay for their staff because the money that they will make from the organic sales will cover their staff expenses BY A LONG WAY.
So with the staffing costs out of the only thing that may cause a subscription fee would be if the game requires a lot of bandwidth and/or a large server infrastructure. But because D3 is not an mmorpg this is not the case.
Everybody in this thread trying to justify that d3 can/should have a monthly fee by relating it to MMORPG's. DIABLO 3 IS NOT AN MMORPG!
Patches and expansion packs will come for d3 REGARDLESS because they have full time staff and the server infrastructure wont be very demanding because d3 is not an MMORPG. So how can you possibly justify a subscription?
As for how far will the game go without a paid subscription? Games like d1/d2 have a lot of replayability in them and the endgame is really only just the beginning. Collecting rare items / crafting rare items and creating godlike characters are some of the most rewarding things in d2, all of which take a very very long time to achieve. With the rune skills system coming in the variety of possible builds will be insane! So I think that d3 will go a long way with regular patching and the occasional expansion pack.
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Erm? You were trying to sell the idea that the MMORPG's that you mentioned (Ever and WOW) receive regular nonstop content updated because of their service fee's. You will find that most MMO's charge a monthly service fee to maintain the MASSIVE amount of hardware that is needed in servers and bandwidth to maintain the game. Since d3 isn't an MMO it won't require such a massive hardware infrastructure such as WOW. So there is no need for a service fee to maintain the servers, bliz will more than cover it's cost through regular sales.
So should we pay $15 a month for a game that doesn't need subscription money to be maintained? No...
The diablo crew are full time employees at blizzard, not contracters. once d3 is released they will most likely work on fixing balance issues and other things they figure out once the game is released. So should we pay $15 a month for work that the full time bliz employees are going to do regardless? No...
Since d3 isn't an MMO which requires a massive amount of hardware and bandwidth to maintain I cannot for the life of me justify paying a service fee.
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edit: your comparing d3 to MMORPG's. d3 IS NOT AN MMORPG
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