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    posted a message on Will monster level 10 runs worth it ?
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    Quote from venom1stas

    Its worth it ofc if you are farming an exploitable area i.e puzzle ring goblins
    lol, how can one farm puzzle ring goblin in first place? I take forever to spawn him. And why anyone would like to do so, since he is always lvl 61 (http://us.battle.net...c/6397790047#14), which is kinda important nowadays.

    yeah, you cant exploit the puzzle ring, people tried every possible way with no success. the best way to use that ring is to put it on your templar (he must be resistant though) so you get 3-6 free goblins per full act 3 runs.
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    posted a message on Will monster level 10 runs worth it ?
    Quote from Shinzo

    I really dont understand the people who are saying "What's the point of playing Mlvl 10 ? its worthless". Playing on higher Mlvls will grant you a bonus to EXP so you can lvl your paragon lvl and be able to have more Damage and defense from your gear rather than taking MF gear. And MF which increases the drop rate of items and also the stat's rolling while IDing the item, so you will be having more chances to get decent loot and upgrading your gear more further to be able to farm higher Mlvls with more ease and so on. By having 675% MF and an uber end game gear you will be able to farm the Mlvl 10. Its a power quest, a challenge a progression and growth for your character, farming to be able to defeat and farm easily on higher difficulties thats what i see on it. Thank you for reading and please try to think before posting because more i read more i see crappy and whinny posts =).

    I dont want to be a dick, but you should also think before posting, higher mlvl will not increase the exp gained on a level 60 character. Also, like Sexton said, mf only affect the chance of finding +5 and +6 attributes items and dont affect the stats values.

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    Quote from nyjl

    All elite monsters in inferno are level 63, in every act.

    This is correct, meaning that every single drop from elites and champion packs will have affix of lvl 63. This is independant of POWER LEVEL system. Every 58-63 item that drops from these monsters will roll with 63 affixes which are the maximum. As we all know from current ilvl63 items, these affix can still roll very bad numbers. It simply mean you have more chance at more good affixes. Thats gona be the case for everyone, good or bad gear, any class, bad build that can only farm mlvl1 act 1 or overpowered buold that can farm mlvl10 act 3.

    M10 is only more loot and a challenge. Not better loot.

    Awesome, thanks for the clarification


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    Quote from Shinzo

    You are wrong my friend, its still "Random" but more loot means more chance to get good loot.

    nope. the chance is always the same! if you roll a normal dice once you have 1/6 to roll a 6. if you roll again, the chance is still the same!

    hmmmm, if you roll a normal dice and when you get 6 its a good item and everything else is crap, no matter how many times you roll it you will have the same chance everytime, but if you can roll it more often you will definately roll 6 more often.
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    posted a message on Will monster level 10 runs worth it ?
    Quote from Kblavkalash

    I think a decent solution would be to increase magic find bonus exponentially, for example for Power level 3 you get 25% bonus, for level 4 you get 30% and so on and so on, so it's actually worth playing at high power levels. So for example switching from level 9 to level 10 you get not 25% bonus increase in mf but 60% or something like that.

    Otherwise people will just find medium spot where they can kill as fast as possible without dying.

    Just look at Krip's video, he played on power level 10, so let's say his MF went from standart ~300 to 600%, that's double the increase. At the same time monster hp prolly went much more than 2x, but 5x or more, so what's the point on such level?

    The ultimate test of your strength ? the fun of having a bigger challenge ? You know, when you play skyrim on maximum difficulty just because you can, not because you get more loots or level faster ? What f*cked up diablo 3 in the first few weeks was that inferno was too hard (im okay with it, but still people had to use exploit and overpowered builds to overcome the difficulty and find 250$ magic weapons), then they nerfed it and nerfed it because it was a must to be in inferno over hell and a must to be in act 3 over act 1. I really like the idea of a new challenge with benefits, not a new difficulty where you feel noob for not having a 500m character in a monster level 10 game.

    Quote from KraiseKr

    600mf is a way to drop more worthless items
    i dont rly think its the way to go, but thats only my opinion

    Actually, mf help to find the best items in the whole game, its not just an illusion like a lot of you may think, it gives you more chance to find legendaries, +6 attributes rare items and ofc, just more rare items overall. Magic find dont simply give you a +% of items drop, even though you can find a gfg trifecta ring in act 1 with 0 mf, you have basically 6x more chances of finding that ring with 600% mf, so your 6x more efficient and something like 18x mor efficient if you farm in act 3 with 600mf, the loot system is based on luck, you cant directly control your luck, but you can certainly help it.


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    Quote from wizzypopje

    I think its a good idea but at the same time, im a bit worried and I didnt have the time to test it myself on the PTR yet because 1. I sold my barb because of the incoming patch and my fear of getting nerfed, I did right, like I did right in every patch lol, the d3 economy is too unstable to have a 700$ character and 2. PTR is down for the weekend. Hopefully it will just be a challenge for a different gameplay and not a gold fountain for rich people while poor people starve and see everything they find worth much less because of the inflation.

    so your not really theory crafting and giving opinions, ur just trolling.
    If you sell ur character and not excited about the game, why bother worrying about a system your gonna rage and quit again.
    Also why pay for your character when you can just enjoy the game through farming, they are almost done through the game already.

    Sorry if I didnt explained myself better but I am not trolling, I never spent a cent in this game and never really quit, I sold my character like I did before every big patch because its the right thing to do in this very unstable economy. I saved a ton of gold and $ this way. Plus I wont have much time to play anymore because of school + work and I prefer to just have a 50m character to, exactly, just enjoy the game through farming.
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    posted a message on Will monster level 10 runs worth it ?
    Quote from thundersteele

    Why should they nerf it? Who cares if power 10 is worth it. Maybe with super high end gear. I'll be happy if I can sit anywhere between 3 and 5 and farm efficiently, without run speed being the limiting factor. Then everytime I get a gear upgrade, I can see if I can move to the next level, and instead of just farming faster, I farm harder mobs for better (?) rewards.

    Something I really like about monster levels, is that run speed, just speed efficiency overall, wont be a must, slow and stronger heroes will be able to farm in a higher monster level difficulty and be as efficient as a 24%speed tornado barb would be. I agree that you should get better rewards, but it should be more of a personal challenge for fun, than another ''must be efficient'' gameplay.


    Quote from ballon

    Worth it? Rather easy to answer: if you can double your MF via powerlevel but you end up needing 3-times the time it won't be useful for you, similar to swapping from act 1 to 2 or 3. If you need 4-5 minutes per champion pack in act 3, you might be better off staying in lower acts.

    Only thinkable exception: they also greatly increases the xp gains. Else just stay in a difficulty you can beat flawlessly all the time (death -> corpse runs are a huge time sink and motivation killer).

    True, thats why I was asking how much magic find higher monster levels add exactly but if its 25%, it should be alright. The bonus exp gained is only for character level 1-59 (so, no paragon) and im totally okay with powerleveling.
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    posted a message on Will monster level 10 runs worth it ?
    Quote from Grimy_Bunyip

    people are saying its 1.5x health per level, exponential.

    so ask yourself, would you sacrifice 33% of your dps and a chunk of your effective health for 25% magic find?
    hell no.

    blizzard will probably nerf monster power before release.

    So its 25% magic find per power level ? so 250% total + 375% (not that hard to get 300mf and great dps with a decent paragon level) still 625% mf, the only way it can worth it, is if you can run like 2-3x slower while in a monster level 10 game, wich make sense because I seriously doubt anyone can run that fast in a game where monster have this much health and strength, even if you're uber geared. Hopefully, if they nerf monster power, they will nerf the mf it give as well.
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    posted a message on Will monster level 10 runs worth it ?
    I hope its more of a challenge than a must like its a must to play in inferno over hell or playing in act 3 over act 1.

    Do anyone know how much gold find and magic find you get from playing in a higher monster level game ? I know that monster level 10 have 10x more health and their dmg is increased by 2-4x, wich sounds really challenging and fun.

    but if loot is 10x better, its gonna be inferno in the first week of d3 over again, people will use overpowered builds, some classes will just have a big advantage over others, loh and all resist items will be mandatory, etc.. You'll have more mf so more 6 attribute items, more rares and ofc, more legendaries, but will it worth it ?

    Do people with 500m+ characters will have a big advantage on everyone else like demon hunters used to have in the first weeks of d3, if mf is increased by like 300% + 375% base, that is 675%, who knows how gfg the drops will be.

    I think its a good idea but at the same time, im a bit worried and I didnt have the time to test it myself on the PTR yet because 1. I sold my barb because of the incoming patch and my fear of getting nerfed, I did right, like I did right in every patch lol, the d3 economy is too unstable to have a 700$ character and 2. PTR is down for the weekend. Hopefully it will just be a challenge for a different gameplay and not a gold fountain for rich people while poor people starve and see everything they find worth much less because of the inflation.
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    posted a message on Diablo III Cinematic Screenshots, Results Conference Call, "One of the Chosen", Blue Posts
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    Whyyyy did I clicked on these 2 last images.
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