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Mar 16, 2015
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Djinnrbmac posted a message on [Suggestion] Item images while building buildsPosted in: Site FeedbackHello I was wondering if in the next update to the build tool that people who are making a build can see the item images when they hover over an item WHILE building the build.
Its just a QoL feature I know I would like and im sure other would like as well.
When I'm going through the list of items I want to be able to hover over the item and see what it does. I like looking through all items in case I missed one I havent seen before.
Thank you for listening.
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Mar 4, 20151
Jaetch posted a message on Vizjerei Clan Opening Doors to New ApplicantsPosted in: Clans [NA] [PC]Since the very first day when clans and communities were implemented in Diablo III, the Vizjerei Clan has been closed off to active recruiting of its members. Every member to date gained membership through community influence, friendships with existing members, or having developed the influencer mentality and relationships necessary to find a home within the clan.
However, we have decided after on and off discussions throughout the past few months, that the Vizjerei Clan will adopt a new recruitment policy aimed at stimulating clan growth and activity.
You can find the application by visiting http://www.vizjereiclan.com/index.php/apply
For general questions and concerns, feel free to post in the clan forum.
Fair warning, we are not that easy to impress. For the lack of a better term, you ought to bring a shiny résumé.
About the Vizjerei Clan:
Lore-wise, the Vizjerei clan was one of the oldest and most powerful mage clans in Sanctuary, with its history predating the events of the original Diablo game.
The clan is known for its strict discipline and ability to curb even the wildest of young magic wielders in to proper sorcerers.
Most of the current members in the clan (particularly the founders) consist of community icons, influencers, contributors, theorycrafters and veterans of the wizard class dating back to the original launch date of Diablo III.
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Feb 27, 20159
Demonhoarde posted a message on Quin on 2.2 Monk sets and possible buildsPosted in: Monk: The Inner SanctuaryQuin talks about the 2.2 changes to sets and possible builds.
1. "Monks will be Gods."
---Boost your attack speed through 2 piece Raiment, Flying Dragon, Miranae and Alacrity passive.
---Remove all CHC on your character. This is to game Broken Promise which will give you 100% CHC if you don't crit for 5 hits. With all that crazy attack speed you will have 98% uptime of that 100% buff
---Get perma Serenity through reworked Zodiac ring that now gives RCD to one of your skills every time you use a resource.
---Quin thinks this can easily take you to GR50s and was able to get his sheet dps to 10-11 million through some gear optimization.
2. "Monk Sentries"
---6 piece Innas now causes your Mystic Allys to cast spenders like EP, LTK, WoL when you cast them.
---2 Piece Innas doubles the passive effect of your Mystic Ally and base passive effect of your Mantras.
---In the video he shows how you can range down mobs by casting EP through your Mystic Allys, effectively turning Monks into M6 Demon Hunters.
---However the effect of the rune used for the mantras is not being doubled. Also the fact that you are forced into using the Inna wep instead of a Furnace if you want the full Inna-Wuko synergy kinda holds this build back.
3. "Raekor Monk"
---4 piece Raiment increases wep dmg of Dashing Strike to 5000%
---6 piece Raiment makes Dashing Strike cost 50 spirit and refund a charge when used.
---Use reworked Zodiac to have perma Epiphany : Insight. Through this you can spam Dashing Strike to your hearts content.
---Using un-optimized gear and a 4k Furnace he was getting 700million crits. He thinks 1 billion hits can be achieved with optimized gear.
Edit:- Sorry for just posting the vid Baggy
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Feb 12, 2015
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Posted in: Diablo III General DiscussionSeason 2 Start
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Feb 9, 20152
Bagstone posted a message on Am I the only one for whom the introduction of ancient items basically ruins the game?Note for those who are wondering about disappeared posts: I deleted a bunch of comments that had *nothing* to do with the thread's topic. This is a very interesting discussion and whether you are paragon 1 or 1000, whether you have BiS gear or all rares, it does not invalidate anyone's opinion.Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
Please stay on topic and discuss the topic, and the topic only. Posts that attack OP, other posts in this thread, or are otherwise derailing and have nothing to do with the topic will be moderated. Thanks.
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On topic: I'm also not too keen on ancient items. I'm probably on the other gear spectrum as OP - I've got every single item in the game and all gear for all 6 classes and every single available build, many of them perfectly rolled (pre-ancient). I've played quite a lot since 2.1.2 (accumulated about 1 trillion XP). Amount of ancient weapons my characters are currently using (in solo and group GRs): 1 - a crafted ancient Devastator. I have not found a single weapon of those that are considered to be useful in endgame in ancient form. In fact, besides a few helmets and Sunwoku shoulders none of my DPS gear is ancient, so basically although I've played like crazy I've gotten almost no upgrades.
Now back to the topic... does this "ruin the game for me"? Surprisingly not. I thought so before, but it's not the case; it might be because I don't care about solo or DH in groups - I prefer playing support characters for which ancient items aren't mandatory and can be crafted anyways. But nonetheless, I still pushed all my solo rankings recently with my non-ancient geared characters and it was fun (I can only hypothesize how many ranks I'd climb if I could replace 5-10 slots, including weapon and offhand, with ancient options). And I guess that's what keeps me playing: I actually *want* those ancient items. I want an ancient Dagger of Darts to see how much higher I can get with my Carnevil. I want an ancient Wand of Woh to see if I can figure out some viable T6 build. I want an ancient Kridershot to play around a bit more with the lightning build (my favorite for solo DHs). It kind of reminds me of the story of one of my clan members, who was on the hunt for a Witching Hour for months last summer - we were all joking about it and it was getting crazy because he dumped 150k shards into Kadala and never got one. He has never played as much since then; the gear hunt kept him playing, I guess. And with ancient items it's similar: as long as you've got non-ancient slots, you got a reason to play.
I used to hate/dislike ancient items. I think ancient weapons shouldn't be *that* much better, and/or ancient weapons should at least be possible to be gambled (an ancient Wand of Woh requires on average 1.07 million blood shards... please, Kadala!) -
Feb 4, 2015
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Hellfire1337 posted a message on Physical Cluster - The Ultimate Solo DH Build + Math + Video (Tier 52)First, awesome work, i'll give phys a try!Posted in: Demon Hunter: The Dreadlands
Second, that is some next level, wait, next universe playstyle. I mean, i have seen many 50++ rift videos made by players who are considered good or skilled or whatever, you get what i mean.
I have never seen such a precise gameplay before. That stutterstep playstyle, sentry placement, evasive fire shot-inbetween-stutterstep... You're op man!
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Dec 24, 2014
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Mad_Tom posted a message on Kadala QoL improvement ideaHere, that's what I think the Kadala interface could look like (gambling for other classes):Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
http://i.imgur.com/OntRTd3.jpg Crusader selected
http://i.imgur.com/E0MpYB2.jpg Demon Hunter selected
It really would save the hassle of leaving game, switching char, spending shards and then switching back. Especially annoying in Public games, as you are not coming back to the group you have been with.
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Dec 15, 2014
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Jaetch posted a message on Item Synthesis System (Christmas Wish)All I want for Christmas is...Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
The Item Synthesis System
Inspired by the item recipe systems of MOBA games like Dota and League of Legends, breeding from the Pokémon series, Persona fusion from the Shin Megami Tensei Persona series, and the good ol' Horadric Cube from Diablo II. I wonder how a system creating new legendary items from existing ones could work in Diablo III's environment.
DISCLAIMER: This system is 100% fictional and is not a feature in Diablo III: Reaper of Souls.
Originally I started wondering about an item recipe based system when stash space issues became a widespread topic in the community. I then started expanding on it a little more when players started struggling with finding specific legendary items, namely the notoriously rare ones like Wand of Woh or Starmetal Kukri (due to be adjusted in 2.1.2, but they're still going to be the rarest in their respective item types).
So I imagined a system—dubbed the Item Synthesis system—within Diablo III that allowed players to take a bunch of extra legendaries they have in their stash or on their mule characters and combine them into brand new items. These new items could be synthesis-exclusive, or they can be items you find normally through killing monsters and exploration.
Basic Limitations:
- Cannot use two legendaries of the same name (must be unique)
- Cannot use unidentified items
- Cannot use set items
- Cannot use legacy items prior to Patch 2.0.1 (vanilla)
The basic system is simply combining two to six items in any order to form a new item.
Starting from triple combinations (three items used in the synthesis process), one “parent” item can be selected as the core, allowing the player to transfer a stat over to the “child” item. A primary stat can be inherited if and only if the child item is allowed to roll the stat naturally (e.g. a child quiver cannot inherit movement speed bonus). Any secondary stat can be inherited (to be discussed).
This will be UI based so the player can make the decision which stat to inherit. Let's say the synthesized child item normally comes with six random properties (four primaries, one secondary, one legendary power). Transferring a stat from a parent item ensures that one of the random rolls will be the inherited stat. The child item can still be enchanted by the mystic.
The synthesized item depends on the order which items are inputted. Its item type is determined by the final item selected in the synthesis process. Basically, when combining five different items, regardless of the order of the first four items, if the final item is a belt, the synthesized item type will always be a belt. But depending on how the first four items are ordered, it may not always be the same belt (to be discussed).
Example:
A player wishes to combine four legendary items: a Mempo of Twilight (helm), a Storm Crow (wizard hat), an Azurewrath (sword), and a Flying Dragon (daibo). The resulting item could be any of the following:
- A helm (6 combos): if the Mempo was included in the synthesis last. Selecting the Storm Crow first, selecting the Azurewrath second would combine the two into a one-handed sword. The third and fourth selections would be the Flying Dragon and Mempo, respectively, and the pair would yield a legendary helm. The first pairing (Storm Crow + Azurewrath) that yielded the new legendary sword would be paired with the second pairing’s (Flying Dragon + Mempo) new legendary helm, yielding yet another new legendary helm.
- A wizard hat (6 combos): just like the helm example, as long as the Storm Crow was included in the synthesis last.
- A sword (6 combos): as long as the Azurewrath was included in the synthesis last.
- A daibo (6 combos) as long as the Flying Dragon was included in the synthesis last.
First combo:
(Storm Crow + Azurewrath) + (Flying Dragon + Mempo) =
(legendary sword A1) + (legendary helm A1) = legendary helm A2
Second combo:
(Azurewrath + Storm Crow) + (Flying Dragon + Mempo) =
(legendary wizard hat A1) + (legendary helm A1) = legendary helm A3
Third combo:
(Storm Crow + Flying Dragon) + (Azurewrath + Mempo) =
(legendary daibo A1) + (legendary helm B1) = legendary helm B2
Fourth combo:
(Flying Dragon + Storm Crow) + (Azurewrath + Mempo) =
(legendary wizard hat A2) + (legendary helm B1) = legendary helm B3
Fifth combo:
(Azurewrath + Flying Dragon) + (Storm Crow + Mempo) =
(legendary daibo A2) + (legendary helm C1) = legendary helm C2
Sixth combo:
(Flying Dragon + Azurewrath) + (Storm Crow + Mempo) =
(legendary sword A2) + (legendary helm C1) = legendary helm C3
The final part of the system involves combining six different items. If all six parent items are of the same type and sub-type, the synthesized item has a chance of inheriting the legendary power from one of the parent items.
Example:
A player wishes to combine six legendary bracers: Lacuni Prowlers, Reaper’s Wraps, Trag’Oul Coils, Warzechian Armguards, Ancient Parthan Defenders, and Promise of Glory. The synthesized item will be a new pair of legendary bracers. This pair of bracers will come with its own unique power, but it also has a chance to inherit the legendary power from one of those parent bracers. There is a chance that no legendary power will be inherited. There is also a chance that a legendary power will be inherited and still be nothing as Lacuni Prowlers does not have a true legendary power.
Additional perks:
Using ancient items in the synthesis process increases the chance for the child item to be ancient, as well. The more ancient items used in the synthesis, the more likely the child will be ancient. If no ancient item is used, the chance for the child to be an ancient item is standard.
Synthesizing rare items (at least those weighted to be more rare through drops) will involve combining one or more rare items in a given recipe. The idea here is that if you cannot find a specific rare item, maybe you had the luck of finding another type of rare item. Some people just don't need Lacuni Prowlers, but they really want a Witching Hour. Perhaps a Witching Hour can be synthesized using several legendaries, including Lacuni Prowlers.
Discussion Stuff
My clan mate ChangBooster took some time to address some of the craziness involved with this system. This is, after all, incredibly broad and bare so there are definitely tons of overlooked concerns. Some things are feasible, others not so much (in fact, not at all), such as having a different synthesized result for every single combination.
Just to give a better picture of things, in a six-item combination, given that the sixth item is locked in place, there are 120 ways to combine the first five items. And that's just for six legendary items. There are nearly 400 unique legendary items in Diablo III. And we're talking two-item combinations, three, four, five, six. And we're not even talking about potentially using synthesis-exclusive items as combination fodder themselves. Does anyone want to calculate how many combinations there are, if there are no repeated results? It's a big number. As a result, there must be duplicate results for different combinations.
So here's ChangBooster's first concern:
The main issue I see with this is the vast amount of combinations. If each combination and order yields a unique item with a unique orange text, Blizzard would basically have to have an algorithm generating icons/skins/orange text affixes. You can't just sit down and design millions (or more) of new items for obvious reasons. So, that is out the window. This leaves us with duplicates. To put it another way, you'd need to have, for example, [[Furnace + Sunkeeper] + Ring] and [[Furnace + Azurewrath] + Ring] yield the exact same ring. And then numerous other combinations are going to yield that same ring. Let's call this the Ring of the Vizjerei (RotV). If I am misunderstanding and this recipe would not always yield RotV and instead yield a random legendary ring, then I guess I am missing the point of having different combinations and the order of said combinations being meaningful. The way you describe it in the video, my understanding is that each combination is a recipe, of sorts.So there you have it. It isn't feasible to have a unique result for every unique combination (where order before the final item doesn't matter). There must be duplicate results for different combinations. Assuming duplicate results will be a thing:
So, let's say I want to synthesize a RotV with 50% crit damage. I'm always using a ring as my final reagent, so I can just pull that 50% CD through from that parent ring. Because there will be redundant recipes, it really doesn't matter if I used [Wormwood + String of Ears + BK Wedding Band] or [Furnace + Sunkeeper + BK Wedding Band]. Remember, you can't possibly have each combination give a unique result. But as long as I have that 50% CD BK ring at the end and some combination of reagents that yield RotV, I can get my 50% CD RotV. If I understand correctly, I could also get that 50% CD from one of the earlier reagents, let's say one recipe for RotV uses Gloves of Worship, then I can use any BK ring and pull my 50% CD off the gloves.Yep. He also suggested having "fixed" recipes:
What if you used fixed recipes instead? Let's say Blizz creates 10 (or 20, or 5, or whatever) new items of each slot. Each one has a set recipe with some flexibility. In the last paragraph, I used [Wormwood + String of Ears + BK Wedding Band] as a possible combination for RotV. Let's reduce the specificity of the items down and add an additional ingredient to give us the formula: [Any Staff + Any Belt + Any Glove + BK Wedding Band] = RotV. You could even allow the desired stat to be carried over when the value is too high to roll naturally on the resultant item. i.e. If we want to carry intelligence to our RotV, we could pull the roll from any of the items but if you pull it from the staff or the glove, it could be reduced to be within the appropriate roll range of a ring. e.g. If our glove has a max int roll (750), the crafting window will indicate that our mystery ring (actually a RotV) is going to have 500 int (or max ancient int roll) on it. If the glove only has 736 int, our UI will inform us that the product is going to roll with 490 int, with a chance to roll as a top end ancient roll, should we get an ancient RotV. Perhaps one Sword recipe is [Any Bracer + Any Amulet + Exarian]. This could have a weaker legendary power as you could churn them out with ease. Then maybe we've got a sword recipe that is [Any Ring + Any Boots + Any Glove + Any Shield + Shard of Hate]. This item could be significantly stronger. Maybe cap this system at 5 total reagents to avoid confusion.Now the next concern ChangBooster had was this:
Moving on the the second system. What you essentially have here are two different systems. The "anything goes" system and the "combine 6 items of the same type" system. The combine 6 items system is based on carrying over a legendary property. Only have one recipe (product) per item type. e.g. Six Wizard Hats always yields a hat called Jaetch's Ninja Mask (JNM). Because our goal here is to bring one legendary property from the original six, the additional legendary property on JNM can't be too OP by itself. Our result gets four primaries, JNM's natural orange text, an orange text from a reagent or a blue text secondary from one of the six hats used. Let's say we want the Swami property on our JNM. This is only giving us a 1/12 chance of getting the affix we want. But we can do it every time we find a Swami and five other hats. One could conceivable craft a Swami'd JNM pretty often. A dedicated player could craft a good (i.e. good primaries) Swami'd JNM every couple months, perhaps.The idea is that trying to get a six-combo synthesized item to spawn with double legendary powers will be ridiculously hard to do, let alone inheriting the legendary power you actually want, on top of whether or not you care if the synthesized item is ancient or not. That's tough if you want perfection. I think that's a good thing, though. And like ChangBooster said, a dedicated player could probably synthesize a good one every couple of months. Probably.
Moving on, his final concern is this:
My final thought is that I think this would have a negative impact on stash space. People are going to be saving up all these items to use to make, say, a Bracer with the Strongarm property. A way to alleviate this could be to store the reagents at the mystic. For those of you who have a seasonal char that has been rolled over to NS on the PTR, you know your message box is full of all the items that were in your stash. It's basically an alphabetical list categorized into "legendary," "set," "consumables," etc. (we wouldn't have those categories since we are only dealing with legendaries) I propose you take an item that you know you want to use as a reagent to Myriam and irrevocably add it to her bank of reagents. This destroys the physical item, it can no longer by equipped or salvaged and, most importantly, removes the item's unique ID from the database since it's now just text strings of the affixes in the bank. It now appears in an alphabetical list (that can also be sorted by gear slot) and it can be added to any applicable recipe, at which point it is removed from the bank. You can add items straight from your inventory to a recipe or pull them from Myriam's bank. If you realize you added an item you don't want in your bank, like if you already have a gg RotV, you would be able to discard an unneeded staff. The bank would have finite space of perhaps 200 items. The interface warned you that you can never get the item back when you added it to Myriam's bank, so no one can complain that your only option is to destroy it forever. Maybe it can refund a forgotten soul just for the QQers.I thought about this as I was making the video. While one of the goals for this system is to free up stash space, I could also see players hoarding even more in order to maximize their chances to synthesize an awesome item. The Strongarm example is a good one, considering how powerful its legendary power is. So for anyone wishing to synthesize specific six-combo legendary bracers, they may end up hoarding a dozen Strongarm Bracers. And that's just one piece in the synthesis recipe. They'd also need five other like bracers.
This is a situation where the proposed solution could in fact make the original problem even worse!
But those were ChangBooster's thoughts. What do you think?
I have some of my own concerns, too, such as whether or not making any secondary stat transferable to a synthesized item. It could be ridiculous. Having max resources in all 13 item slots? Having chance to freeze, blind, stun, etc. on all pieces? Sounds fun, but it could be game-breaking.
Again, this is just a Christmas wish. Could be something worth exploring. Could definitely be tweaked and adjusted, and definitely simplified a little.
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Dec 13, 2014
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Bagstone posted a message on CHC vs CHD CalculatorI came across this thread on Reddit yesterday where someone asked whether CHD or CHC is better on a ring. Obviously, the immediate quick answer in my head was "CHD". However, the answer is not always correct - as so often, the right answer is "it depends". As the math went on crazy in this thread, it occurred to me that people were doing more calculus than required to solve the Schrödinger Equation, when actually it's completely independent of your DPS and all other stats besides CHC and CHD. So... I built a super quick single-service webpage that answers that question on first glance - and you don't need a degree in mathematics for that ;-)Posted in: Diablo Tools
http://d3resource.com/critcalc/
(Note: the table looks completely weird in IE... use Chrome or Firefox, please.)
It's pretty simple: On the left, you enter the competing stats on an item (for example, in Reddit OP's case 6% CHC vs. 50% CHD on a ring). In the middle, you enter your current stats - don't forget to include buffs like Bait the Trap or Crusader's Judgement-Resolved or Laws of Valor that you anticipate to have in a rift; at the same time, obviously remove the stats you gain from the item slot you're currently comparing (e.g., in this case, the ring you want to replace).
You'll see the "winner" on the right and how much better the given stat is. Adjust your CHC/CHD value (because let's be serious, getting perfect rolls isn't exactly easy) to see how non-perfect rolls turn out. The table at the bottom will automatically update - and show you how much changes in gear (or buffs) will skew the result in favor of the one or the other stat.
Let me know if you spot any mistakes, or have any suggestions for improvements. Thanks! - To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
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Really awesome suggestion. Anything even remotely similar to this would be very welcome =]
I took the liberty of adding the "image link' to your preview image there, so that people can click it an see a bigger version of it (the version you previewed it kinda small).
People looking to see a full resolution of the image can click here as well.
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Introducing a sort of "trade-off" to the Paragon system sounds like a really neat concept. Interesting perspective.
Anything to spice up the Paragon system later on is a good suggestion imho =]
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What?
>.>
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No there isn't....
Jokes aside, thanks for the heads-up.
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Welcome to the forums, friend. Let me know if you need help with anything.
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I've said this a couple dozen times before, so I'm just gonna leave it here.... you know, in case someone still doesn't get it.... maybe, just maybe we weren't supposed to be reaching GR XX in the first place.
The community is obviously breaking the limits imposed by the item numbers (sheer base dps and stats) every time, and more often than not they're doing it through what can be called cheesy mechanics - infinite resources, immunity, perma crowd control.
It's awesome seeing new builds break through previous records, and it has been shown time and time again that is possible (and not everything is figured out), and party compositions trying to push the limits too - but resorting to these mechanics to even compete is something people probably don't even want to.
To be honest, I think this is the biggest reason why, whenever they reduce the effectiveness of anything or implement new content, there's a huge spike in player power (and more power creep - a TRILLION damage! is the latest trend). Revamped Legendaries, then revamped Sets, then Legendary Gems, then Ancient items - just so that people don't rage about not being able to reach GR XX anymore, without realizing that numbers wise they were never even supposed to (old school Rimeheart...)
I welcome the change, but I'd also really like for them to take a step back and stop with the ridiculous number inflation. It's pointless and not gonna head us anywhere interesting. Take the WoW approach to this before we're doing a GAZILLION damage and our monitors can't even show the numbers.
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Yeah, I guess if they want to solve the issue for good, they need to apply the hotfix (reducing subsequent experience gains from turning in the same quest) for all quests, not just "The Broken Blade" as it is expected.
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But every now and then the bots will switch their formatting, or the text, and then the anti-spam measures take a while to kick in. In these situations, I usually mark 10-20 threads "as spam", to help the anti-spam bot pick those up. Taking a quick look at my "recent actions" on the website, I've marked a few hundred threads/profiles as spammers recently, and I've gotten pretty quick at that (can mark 10-20 all at once), but no matter what I can't stay here all day watching it.
That's why every now and then you'll see things go a little out of control. It's a mixture of the spammers adapting to the anti-spam measures and lack of manual control by us (well, me, since most mods aren't really active or can't deal with this, and Bagstone is afk for a few days).
Just thought you might want to know how things work from our perspective. In regards to actual changes to policies, or doubts on website coding and support (like why MMOChamp or Hearthpwn don't suffer these), you'd have to ask Molster - he's the one in charge of those and who actually has knowledge on that. I know almost nothing about Cobalt and the DFans/HPwn/MMOC structure.
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In the meanwhile, I'll lock this.
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Guys, for crying out loud. This discussions is as old as the franchise. "D2 had PvP and it was great"... "D2 didn't have proper PvP and it sucked balls"....
Let's just not twist the facts or mix them with with the opinionated part of arguments.
D2 didn't have great PvP features, only a few extremely simples ones (still more than D3 which is what bothers a lot of people), and with those functionalities, a thriving small (compared to the how many people played the game) community still managed to do something with it. Maybe those make up for 5-10% of the playerbase, but compare it to Hardcore mode which probably has a similar playerbase and you get what they mean. (also for the record, I wasn't a big PvP player back then and never did proper D2 PvP, just playing devil's advocate here)
Second, people will swear more open PvP was an amazing part of D2 but in general it mostly lead to griefing, and more harmed players than ones having fun. That is hardly a good argument when you're trying to get more features into this part of the game, and will only scare away those who are already on the other side of the fence.
While I think a "real PvP" mode will likely never come to Diablo 3, I also really think there's no reason not to give the players some minor simple tools on Brawling (and make it be at least on par with D2's features) and see what happens from there. Being "scared" of the playerbase using it to demand PvP balancing is a bullshit and lazy reason not to.
If despite not having ANY resemblance of balance, any rewards, a proper matchmaker, leaderboards and all those "mandatory" 2014 PvP perks, the community still thrives and people organize fun events and clan brawls, and even non-PvP players ended up having some fun in those - well, I think the message would be pretty clear for the future.
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I wasn't sure if I could talk about this to anyone, but I think it's ok for me to share it.
From my brief conversation with John Yang at the community reception party, he seemed to convey a general "feeling" that Blizz devs share. That it is ok for each game to have their own niche, cater to their own style of player, and that they embrace the idea that there's a Blizzard game for each type of player. And I believe in general they don't want one franchise/genre to invade another game's own space and niche.
Right now, for competitive PvP, they have SC2 (1v1) and HotS (5v5), and they seem to be absolutely ok with Diablo 3 not ever having a proper (competitive) PvP mode. D3 is their cooperative loot hunting monster smashing over the top experience. This could change, but I don't think it ever will.
Now my own opinion on this matter is that, if they don't want to make a proper PvP mode, at the very least they could divert minor resources to give us some tools on the Brawling mode (along with a huge red permanent PR statement saying PvP isn't an intended mode and will never be balanced). A way to setup teams, a way to have more players, a way to measure our damage and points, just some functionalities - to let the community make of it whatever they want it to be.
I'm not asking for spectator mode, replays, multiple arenas, a PvEvP mechanic (moba-style), leaderboards, seasons and insanely balanced fights. Just the basics, because Brawling as a feature is quite frankly a bad joke, and it's about time they admitted that and tried to amend it.
Some people just wanna fight each other in D3's great fighting engine (in an organized manner), and for these, minor tools like that could be the one end-game reason for farming day and night. Food for thought.