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    posted a message on Religion Vs. Science
    God, Mephisto I find your lack of common sense disturbing. I love how you take my one line and take it completely out of context when this entire thread could get anybody banned for "religious discrimination". If you want to debate, be prepared to be called out on your bullshit or please don't be part of this because I have a feeling that you are posting just to feel... what do you call it... "big".

    I would much rather believe in the harsh truth than the comforting lie, but apparently, that's just a "matter of opinion". I posted on your response to that and I would like to remind you that you also use quite "interesting" words to label other people's opinions, do please don't be a hypocrite. If you want to get me banned, please try. I am honestly sick of you coming into threads, posting opinions, and when people respond to it, you laugh at it and ruin the entire thread because you have to act like a troll in everything you do.

    But hey, I guess that's just a matter of opinion.
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    posted a message on Religion Vs. Science
    Actually he is right. Anybody with a scientific degree is usually not religious. Most college professors are atheist, usually those in mathematics, physics, chemistry, philosophy, biology (especially this one), etc. There is no taboo in science, and saying that there is might be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
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    posted a message on Religion Vs. Science
    Anathemic... I'm sorry but I have to say this, even though I'm not really part of this thread anymore.

    You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, and I mean this in the nicest of ways. The Vatican only supports what it wants to support, yet its stance on gay marriage, evolution, etc have not changed. They only follow science to improve their image since the pope so wisely said that "Condoms should not be used in Africa!"

    Science is proven. Science is measurable. Deities are not. They are simply the imagination of a human mind. How can you not prove the rain isn't a God crying? Yes you have the water cycle and the complex phase changes water goes through, but how do you not know that God isn't crying then? Every thing might add up to it, but the reason why we don't believe in it is because it is human imagination, and it doesn't get us anywhere. It is simply just an idea.

    And let me say this, just because you cannot prove does not exist DOES NOT mean it doesn't exist.

    Also cut the crap with "discriminatory" everyone. This thread is really MY thread so people argue peacefully, or I'll call a mod and ask them to close this. People's religion will criticized here, so don't be surprised and offended if they are. It's just how debates work. People call it out, and people use the religion taboo to get attention and make people feel bad for them. Everything here is a troll and a flame if we really want to be like that.

    Thank you.
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    posted a message on The Picture Thread


    AWWWWWWWWWW!
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    posted a message on Evolution
    There is evidence of observed speciation among the human age, and we have recorded them: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html

    However, the reason I support Richard Dawkins and thunderf00t and many other amazing scientists out there is because they fight fire with fire. I personally feel that religion has been attacking the scientific method too long and they are trying to slow down the academic progress. It's just nice to see someone bash religion for their beliefs instead of the exact opposite, which happens to often.

    Personally, I believe that the topic of religion is way too tabooed when it shouldn't be.
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    posted a message on Share your beliefs/religion
    Quote from Party_Foul

    Quote from Irrational

    Where there is religion, there is war.

    Name who said that.
    Where there are people there are war. You are one of those people that hates religion because it "causes wars" huh?

    This is an assumption you made on my statement, but I am pretty sure I just meant that where there are religious debates, things tend to get heated. But I don't know, I can be lying to myself ;)

    But honestly, you are right. I personally dislike religion and any other part of it. I believe that the fantasy of a supernatural deity slows down technological and scientific progress, which is essential for the survival of the human civilization. But before you go off saying this is a flame against religion, let me tell you that it is not. This is my personal belief on religion, and we are discussing it in a "share your religious beliefs" thread. I am not judgmental on people who are religious, as some of my closest friends are religious. I just do not wish religion to exist in the scientific arena because there are people out there (Kent Hovind) who will stop at nothing to eliminate scientific knowledge in our schools and substitute it with Biblical fantasies.
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    posted a message on Share your beliefs/religion
    Where there is religion, there is war.

    Name who said that.
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    posted a message on Religion Vs. Science
    Quote from -Mephisto

    Quote from Irrational

    Everything in life is just a really complex molecular properties, because everything is made up of molecules. Molecules are really the most complex atomic combination, and it everything else is just "teamwork". Like a soccer team. You can make the argument that alone, the soccer team cannot win, but if it works as a team, it wins. It really works the same way (but a lot more complex).

    So, according to your "everything is made up of molecules" the things that actually constitute molecules...are....uhhh...wait...THEY'RE ALSO MADE UP OF MOLECULES? You just divided by zero.

    Umm... We are made up of molecules and atoms. I thought that was a trivial essence of the universe, or has my entire science education lied to me? Yes, we have atoms in us, so I wish you can please forgive my lack of ability of writing "and atoms" after molecules.

    Also, you are getting emotional about this. I did not "divide by zero". I merely thought that anyone who has any sense of scientific knowledge would understand my statement, and you seemed have demonstrated until this point that you have some level of science. I hoped that you can see through that and know that I know things are made up of atoms, quarks, neutrons, electrons, protons, etc.

    By saying that everything is made up of molecules, it would be like saying that all life is made up of cells. You make the assumption that people know that you understand that cells are not the smallest entity of matter. I am sorry for taking that assumption and I will make myself clearer next time.
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    posted a message on Evolution
    Quote from Equinox

    Small scale evolution aka adaptation? Sure.Macroevolution? No.


    Quote from Equinox

    Quote from LinkX
    So you are throwing away the entire theory simply because you do not think the world is diverse?
    No, just parts of it. And, generally, I don't specifically throw away evolution. I just prefer to say it's hardly explains everything nor is it the only possible answer. Therefore, I do not believe in it, as the one and only theory.Small-scale evolution is pretty hard to throw away so I automatically assumed this thread was specifically about the kind of evolution that says humans originated from bacteria.


    Quote from Equinox

    what! there are plenty of examples of macroevolution! you can have genetic drift, horizontal transfer, allopatric speciation...
    I do not recall seeing any flying radiation immune tigers yet.

    I see what you mean, but you are throwing away almost all of the evolution theory.

    You can not simply say you believe in micro-evolution and not believe in macro-evolution. It is a paradox. It would be like me saying that I believe in humans, but not cells. It is a mathematically impossible. Why? Because macro-evolution is simple a lot of micro-evolution. You can say that we are another species of a lost primate, and we survived because out intelligence had such a huge advantage over the rest the primates that we literally exploded in population.

    It would be like believing in millimeters, but not kilometers. Macro-evolution just takes place longer, and is a term used when a species "creates" its own species when it adapts so much due to natural mutations that it literally moves away from the very species it was once in.
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    posted a message on Diablo 2 Juggernaut Sign-Ups
    So now the moment of truth has finally arrived. It's time to Juggernaut!

    Here are the rules: http://www.diablofans.com/topic/21126-diablo-2-juggernaut-mini-game/

    Please use this to sign up:

    DiabloFans User:
    New BNet Account Name: Iron-
    Character Class:
    Character Type (optional):
    Character Name (optional):

    Runs


    Run #1:
    September 11, 2010 7pm PST

    Winner:

    Leader: Irrational - Assassin - Trapper - Iron-Mike
    Member #2: Lt. Vemon - Necromancer - Bone - Iron-Venom
    Member #3: TheDFO - Paladin - Angel or vindicator - Iron-DFO
    Member #4: bloodypirate2 (bnet user) - Druid - Elemental - Iron-Troy
    Member #5: Zantrol - Sorceress - Frost - Iron-Zantrol
    Member #6: rzr-mountmake (bnet user) - Barbarian - Whirlwind - Iron-Floopy
    Member #7: Psyxix - Pending - Pending - Iron-Psyxix
    Member #8:



    Run #2:
    September 18, 2010 7pm PST

    Winner:

    Leader: Irrational
    Member #2:
    Member #3:
    Member #4:
    Member #5:
    Member #6:
    Member #7:
    Member #8:

    (I have people on BNet and JSP that will join if not enough people join on this site)


    Juggernaut FAQ's:

    Q: You call this ironman a lot, is that the same thing as juggernaut?

    A: Ironman used to be the official name for this mini-game, but because people did not want to quest all the way, they made ironman a game where you level up until level 9, and duel. Juggernaut is now the old ironman, where you quest.


    Q: On Jsp, ironman is when you level up until level 9, and duel. WTF?

    A: Just like above, ironman USED to be questing, but because of time, people did not want to play it as much. So they just made it so you dueled at level 9.


    Q: Will I need anything before playing this?

    A: Besides the ability to make an account on Battle.net, you don't need anything before playing this.


    Q: Will I need a lot of time for this?

    A: Yes. You will need around 3-4 hours minimum unless we all drop dead at the Raven, which probably won't happen. So we will find a time which will work for everyone, usually being nighttime.


    Q: I don't have Diablo 2: LoD! WTF?!?!?

    A: If you still have your CD-Key, Blizzard let's you download their games off of www.battle.net Go on that site and put in your CD-key and down load the game. If you don't then that's too bad. No juggernaut for you!


    Q: I came late on the day of the juggernaut. What do I do?

    A: Due to the fact that the time has been up for a week and you signed up for it with plenty of time to ask me to move the time so you can participate in this event, if you miss it, you will have to sign up for the next week's run. We will not wait for you. If it says 7 pm PST, then it means that time. If you are late 15 minutes, that is reasonable. But anything beyond that is ridiculous.


    Q: So it's the middle of the run, and I have to go. What happens?

    A: It really depends. If we are killing everything in the Den of Evil, and you have to leave to Japan, we won't wait for you and just continue onward. However, if it is a in depth juggernaut and we have been playing for a while, we respect that real life comes first and the game second. We will stop for you, and arrange a time later.


    Q: What happens if we don't finish the juggernaut run in one day?

    A: An arrangement of time will be set that will fit all the surviving members to continue that run. We hope to finish all the runs we do, and not forget about them.
    Posted in: Diablo II
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