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Quote from Frozenkex

Both are bad for the community, but fanboys are cancer. If wasnt for fanboys D3 would problably be a better game. For exemple, the lack of weapon switch option could be different if haters were more vocal when blizz announced D3 wouldn't have a weapon switch feature. And the reason why haters weren't vocal enough was because fanboys and their irrationality.

i'm not a fanboy, and weapon switch button is as stupid as suggestion to make gear swap button for more efficient MF swapping. Its a bad game mechanic and you should look at your own opinion to find out which category you fall in because suggesting such a feature into the game is not rational or objective, you want it for the sake of the fact that you liked it many years ago during d2, just like people liked MF swapping or what not. To be rational/objective you need to be unbiased, and have to see multiple perspectives.

Quote from proletaria

Indeed, I did several public games with a CM melee wizard who out-tanked me in every way (save vs. mobile ranged elites). I don't begrudge the class for having such a cool and unique build style, but I certainly don't like the fact I'd have to pay 10mil for an LoH weapon to accomplish similar to his <1mil equipment setup.

Quote from Rickarus

Seriously, people seem to love to scream fanboy like 12 year old girls scream bieber, It's pathetic.

If you fully dislike the game, and feel there's no way it can be redeemed for you, stop fucking playing, stop going on a DIABLO FAN SITE, and move on with your life. You are fully entitled to your opinion, but the majority of the people on this site don't want to hear it, and likely disagree with you, and anyone who does agree with you, well, they should refer to my second sentence.

And if that's too difficult for you to do, if you feel the undeniable need to go onto a fan site for a game you so despise, then expect people to disagree with you, and don't fall to such pathetic depths as to call them a fanboy, and act as if their enjoyment of the game is of any consequence to you.

If you simply dislike the way the game is going, or certain parts about the game, but think it can be redeemed in one way or another, then state your case instead of just bitching and then flaming everyone who disagrees with you by calling them a fanboy. If you have ideas of how to make it better, go post on the official forums and try to get some people to agree with you, and see if it gets noticed.

If you're simply an asshat who likes to troll people by going to fan sites of popular games and running down the game and acting as if any person who likes it is a "fanboy" and act as if that's the worst possible thing that a person can be, then seriously, get a fucking life, because anyone who does that is a complete waste of space.

Now as I type this I realize that the people I'm talking about will most likely simply call me a fanboy and then go back to their hater-troll circle jerk, so, enjoy I guess!

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if I'm building a tank, why would I need the tankiest pets? Wouldn't I want damage pets? Or, if the only way to make them viable is to be a tank already, then again, what's the point?

I agree with everything you said except this.

Zombie Dogs, especially, is categorized as a "defensive" ability. And it's plenty clear that both Zombie Dogs and Gargantuan are supposed to give the DK a measure of control. They absolutely must scale with defensive stats (and I believe they already do). If you want to build a tank witch doctor then you'll probably not want to take pets. It's really not going to change much.

I just don't see a logical way to make pets scale on the opposite role you take. That's a ton of work for very little reward.

The issue with WD pets scaling with defensive stats, is that it's counter-productive for a defensive ability meant to keep enemies from attacking you in a build where you would be gearing for defensive stats. They either need to be able to effectively do damage in tank build, or effectively tank for a decent amount of time in an offensive build. Therefore they need to scale defensively with offensive stats, or offensively with defensive stats. Otherwise they'll only be effective in higher gear levels where you already have high amounts of both offensive and defensive stats.

IMO the Garg should be effectively as hard to kill as a decently geared Templar, even with low levels of defensive stats, and ZDs should be able to survive a decent amount of hits, longer with leeching beasts. Obviously this would be with pet/defensive-based passives. Also, pets should have the ability to taunt, or at least cause high amounts of threat so that enemies won't just run past them and attack the WD.

Easy way to do that imo is scaling their life with the WDs Int, and increase the amount of resists they get from the WDs resists, etc.

I'm not even going to bother to point out the 10+ reasons that your proposition is ineffective and accomplishes nothing aside from your insistance on forcing Zombie Dogs and Gargantuan to work with a niche spec like a tankdoctor. I assure you that you have not thought this through to see the absolutely glaring holes in what you're saying, though.

What you are doing is taking abilities which were clearly designed for defense/control and tailoring them to a very niche playstyle, and that's akin to me complaining that Horrify doesn't have enough of a direct offensive use (like 50% weapon damage) which makes it useless for my spec. Abilities do NOT need to by hybridized like that. We take abilities like Horrify and Mass Confusion and Hex because they primarily provide control. The idea that every ability should be both offensive and defensive absolutely negates the choices we're supposed to be making. The point of the matter is that if you don't need control then you don't need Horrify.

Abilities are supposed to have roles they fill. The goal of making a good spec is (in theory) supposed to be finding the proper synergy between your abilities and your playstyle. What you are doing is saying that you want Zombie Dogs to be viable in every single spec out there which is no more logical than me saying that Poison Darts has to be viable in every single spec out there. The bottom line is that they aren't and that they shouldn't be. If you need more offense in your tank build you probably should pick an offensive ability.

I don't see what's so damned complicated about that. All you have is a solution looking for a problem.

Quote from Rashnau

About 20sec solo on Inferno with that crappy burst zombie bears spec. I did get lucky though in that he targetted my gargantuan for the first poison and then part of my legion for the second poison shake, so I was able to stand there free casting.

Had my luck changed probably would have taken about 30 seconds to finish him off.

I do run with 75k damage and 26k hp with very little armor/resist.

Quote from Junotekh

Scale pets with player's int/vit and all is solved on that part. This goes for the monk summon as well.