Quote fromThat doesn't mean that he does. Pardo is not the Lead Designer for Diablo III, which is what you said he was - his job is much more general in the sense that he's not just responsible for Diablo III.
Funny, I don't remember saying he was soley responsible for Diablo III's duties.
As a matter of fact I just said he's the lead designer, as his title dictates. As well as with whatever else Blizzard puts out.
If you're trying to insinuate that he has no influence in the Diablo team, then I'd like to know where the hate comes from.
Unless of course...he's...ya know...a lead designer...calling just as many, if not more, shots than Jay.
You said you've read so many of my posts!
It's about a sense of internal realism, not about a factual "physical" reality, just like I couldn't care less what way a rainbow faces, depending on hemisphere and angle. 
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Some higher end video cards will actually slow down DAW performance (Heat dissipation, power consumption, etc). I've always gone with two machines. One for music, one for games. But I really think there's more important aspects to focus on for using your DAW for other purposes, and getting the most out of it (Dual Drives / External Drives, RAM, etc)
You figure the specs for Diablo III should be similar to SC2, so if you have a computer that can run that it should, theoretically, run Diablo III as well.
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...people aren't allowed to like, or love, many things? Since when?
Most gamers play different games because they love different aspects of each game.
I love what UEIII games do in terms of graphics, and especially love the sound and music mod friendly aspect.
I loved the graphics behind Okami and thought they were beautiful.
I loved the graphics in Gears of War, as they were gritty and really set the atmosphere.
I don't even know how to counter argue that...because...it's common sense.
Yes, I would like screenshots as well showing that Diablo 3 looks like "every other game". The last time I looked at a game and went, "Ya know, this looks just like an oil painting only brutal and brought to life" was...never.
Diablo I and II didn't really "look" all that different from other games. Mainly because of technology. They all looked pixelated and "grungy".
Again, people can like a lot of things.
However, people really liked Diablo because of it's gameplay and it's mechanics. Because the gameplay is still there in part III people will "love" it as well.
No need, I gave you one.
Diablo wasn't scary.
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The textures are detailed, they're just not detailed to your liking.
http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/_images/screenshots/ss25-hires.jpg
The detail is in the cracks in the ground, the cement look of the floor, the statues and bricks, etc. (Also, there's no green glow *gasp!*)
It retains the feel of a painting, which would make it seem 2D, but in a 3D world.
Simply put: Art - Brought to life.
Some of us didn't like the light radius, myself included. Call me crazy but I'd actually like to see the world, the environments, and the art in the game. Not let it be shrouded and covered up in blackness.
Exactly, a painting. Many employees, current and ex, have stated that the painting look was to retain a 2D feel. From the color palette to presentation. The very fact you acknowledge this means they artist did their job.
Diablo was more than a "look", as the looks changed throughout each game and each act. It's about lore, character, mood setting, and more.
Nobody exaggerated anything. You made the horrible analogy, not us. We're talking about faith in a developer that has never let it's fans down. Who demands quality from every title they publish. Whose games are loads of fun to play for years to come. Certainly something to have "faith" in.
Gameplay
If gameplay qualifies your ratings then why are you worried about look? You realize they're two different things, right?
See above.
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Because having faith in a game developer equates to starving children in Africa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_scotsman
I have to say, the more and more Blizzard talks about this the more humorous it all gets.
Blizz: "We give you, Diablo 3!"
Fans: "WTF IS THIS SHIT?! This is not Diablo! Look at those colors!"
Blizz: "Um...Diablo II had colors too?"
Fans: "Well...the rainbows! There's no rainbows in Diablo!"
Blizz: "Yeah, we uh...we put them there on purpose. To piss you off"
Fans: "But the grittyness is gone!"
Blizz: "Here's a technical reason why..."
Fans: "If only the guys at Blizz North could see this! They'd hate it!"
Blizz North: "We think it looks great!"
Fans: "DAMNIT! NONE OF YOU ARE TRUE FANS! NOT EVEN BLIZZARD, THE CREATORS!"
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Funny, I don't remember saying he was soley responsible for Diablo III's duties.
As a matter of fact I just said he's the lead designer, as his title dictates. As well as with whatever else Blizzard puts out.
If you're trying to insinuate that he has no influence in the Diablo team, then I'd like to know where the hate comes from.
Unless of course...he's...ya know...a lead designer...calling just as many, if not more, shots than Jay.
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General how? Being the "Vice President" of "Game Design" for the entire company it'd be safe to say that he's the one man even Wilson has to answer to, along with the rest of the team. The one who calls the big shots and ultimately gives a yay or nay for whatever decisions Jay comes up with.
So to say he's not a designer on DIII would be bull, and the "true fan" (I use that term very lightly) outcry further proves the point.
If you say so
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Add to that the Rob Pardo is also a lead designer on the game. No doubt he has a greater influence over the entire team. Which means a new Art Director position (Which could just mean they need more) doesn't mean much.
Cause...ya know...Pardo is the Anti Christ...er something. So I've been told by the "true fans" anyway.
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You do know the director calls all the shots, right? Saying yay or nay to what goes in the game.
Yes, you're wrong.
Chances are it's not.
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You.
So...you do have experience in game design and know what's practical when things are put in motion, rendered in 3D? You're a full fledged artist that knows what art will work in a game, and not just some kid with a cracked copy of photoshop thinking he knows what's best?
Again, you can't please everyone. Just because senior members here aren't happy with it doesn't mean anything really. It means...senior members aren't happy with it. Nothing more, nothing less.
No there's not. It seems most of those unhappy with the game are unhappy regardless of what's said by Blizzard in an attempt to calm the Diablo Fanboy Defense Force.
...mass opinion is still opinion.
But, again, mass opinion doesn't equal fact. Take a look at the various religions around the world for further proof.
Because it's your opinion they look fine, and they shouldn't fix what isn't broken. Other people think otherwise.
I don't even know any of the members here so that's a bit...moot. My line in regards to that was more in a joking manner anyway.
And what a welcome you've given.
Because "better" is subjective.
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By not being a condescending ass.
Since when did debating include being an ass to people? What the hell ever happened to a civil debate? Hell, atleast Luck even had more respect.
The problem when ignorant people try to "guide" others on how to do their job is that nothing is practical. You're "guidance" comes off as mindless rants and whining.
There's a reason others are game designers and you're not. It's because they know what's practical and what works. While you just create ill conceived theories in photoshop, back handing the artist that get paid to do what they do.
It's their job to make a great game, as is the job of all game developers. It's not their job to please everyone. Any game designer will tell you that, and Blizzard has said it themselves.
And there's a lot of people who don't.
What's your point?
It is your opinion, and the opinion of others. Just because the masses have the same opinion doesn't make the opinion fact.
So? There's others that do think they look cool, such as myself and others on this very forum.
You seem to be stuck in a heard mentality. That if everyone in your group believes what they say is true then it must be true! Thankfully the world doesn't work like that. Perhaps you should try thinking out of the box, and thinking for yourself for a change.
You're like Luck's apprentice...only a bad one.
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Jobs tend to provide income, and losing that income tends to be bad.
I'm not going into the philosophical debate of how it can be "good", finding a better job, blah blah. It's pretty clear that the people you've mentioned enjoy where they are. Wishing them to be fired due to your ill liking of them is slightly childish, and over all not needed.
Agree'd, it would be boring. But the fight it old and tiresome. Reading post after post of crying. Reading post after post of you correcting peoples own opinions, explaining why their opinion is wrong.
When people on the internet start debating about the physical properties of a rainbow in a game and if it's scientifically accurate due to lighting angles then it's time to unplug and find a hobby.
There's a difference between being passionate towards something and eerily obsessed with something. Something such as a made up virtual fantasy world.
Ah, good response!
"Those don't count, they're just for looks!"
Congratulations.
Indeed. Most are forgettable repeats of everything else that's been said since the games announcement.
Was there as much fuss in the community when WoW was released? Because there's obvious things stolen from the Diablo series.
Not really. My replies to you are simple: Stop correcting peoples opinions just because they clash with yours. Some people like the way the game looks. It's shocking, I know. It's relevant to the thread at hand because people have been expressing their opinions in which you quickly rush in and slap their hand telling them no.
Now, should I expect another round with you? You strike me as the type that always has to get the last word in and just won't let things be.
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I didn't say "harm" I said "ill". Meaning anything bad. Losing a job is a bad thing. There's no doubt that they'd find other jobs. But why want them fired because they're not to your liking, or for some "greater good" - whatever that may or may not be.
No, I am not offended by you nor do I feel belittled by you. Considering this is our first encounter. I was merely making a statement of observation.
Text on your screen.
Deliberate or not, you are. Your post tend to be in the, "No, you don't understand. Let me explain it to you" manner. Which is fine when it comes to factual information. But an opinion is neither wrong nor right. Telling them they don't understand their opinion and why it's wrong is talking down to them as if they have the brain capacity of a two year old.
The Necro has some larger than average shoulder pads as well. No, I'm not going to post pictures.
But, regardless, if the large shoulder pads fit the Barb in the first two games what's wrong with the direction in the third? He's still quite large. Are they not fitting anymore?
The point was that in a fantasy world things tend to be romanticized. Weapons and armor blown up in proportion, colors changed, etc. You do that, artistically, for many reasons. But also because it just "looks cool" (from a personal view anyway).
It seems the only thing people have against them is that they are too "WoWish". Because that's all the arguments are when it comes to the art direction/graphics, or whatever you want to call it. Many of them being hypocritical in their arguments in the first place.
"I hate WoW, it's so dumb and childish! That's why I've never played it"
However, the WoW issue is a whole 'nother topic really. The point of my posts have been to tell you what I've said above.
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It's the bakers bakery. For years that baker has ran a very successful bakery due to the choices that they've made and the products they put out. If you do not like the products that the bakery puts out, you have the right to seek out another baker. Be it a good decision on the bakers part, or a bad one, they still choose to put whatever they see fit into their products.
No need to be the customer in the bakery crying about raisins when you can easily seek out other bakers who don't put raisins in their cakes.
I've read these boards for a while now. It seems that every time someone voices their opinion on why the game should stay the way it is you feel the need to come in here with your believed superior intellectual skills and be condescending to other members and their opinions. Talking down to them as if they're a child who misunderstands everything. Presenting long over analyzed diatribes about why X is wrong, but that it could all be solved by a few self suggested tweaks. Even going so far as to saying employees at Blizzard should be fired, because they're not of your liking. Nothing says maturity like wishing ill on someone else.
Never once have you stopped to consider that it could be you who is wrong. After all, what you present is merely just another opinion to the argument.
But, alas, I expect you to respond in your typical manner. A lengthy novel sized post about how I'm wrong and why. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if you wrote me a few paragraphs on the physical properties of raisins and how they shouldn't be in cake in the first place.
Diablo is, and always has been, a fantasy game. I expect to see many fantasy elements, just as their were in the first two games - including over-sized shoulder pads.
Frank Miller said it best:
"People are attempting to bring a superficial reality to superheroes which is rather stupid. They work best as the flamboyant fantasies they are. I mean, these are characters that are broad and big. I don't need to see sweat patches under Superman's arms. I want to see him fly."