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    posted a message on Guns in Diablo 3? Maybe?
    Quote from "LinkX" »
    And I suppose that this is COMPLETELY realistic, right? Oh yea. Completely realistic. *Eye roll.*

    Suspension of disbelief.

    I know that bows in the proper hand can fire very fast, depending on draw weight and bow size.

    I know it's impossible to fire arrows once per .2 seconds in different directions.

    However, I do suspend my disbelief because a magically imbued warrioress imbued with the strength of her gods could likely be capable of performing such a feet.

    On the other hand, while I'm sure someone could have a way to reload a rifle of that age incredibly fast I cannot believe that without serious magical help they would be able to hit anything.
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    posted a message on Diablo 3 Art Direction No Going Back
    Quote from "Rukahs" »
    Hahah, in your face Doppelganger!!! So much for that stupid petition.... Like I says, it stays!:D:cool:

    :spam:

    Didn't the thread just get cleared out of comments like this?
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    posted a message on Guns in Diablo 3? Maybe?
    Well my suggestion for a cannon/gun that shoots spells is based on going with what the world has.

    Twenty years isn't enough time to make a gun when they haven't even invented the rocket, or discovered gun powder.

    On the other hand, a device which can fire spells in a magically heavy setting is completely plausible.
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    posted a message on Diablo 3 Art Direction No Going Back
    Quote from "Krauser" »
    I disagree with you on that one, I'd rather fit 100 things in my inventory then lets say... 5? Take a minute out of your day to organize it and you'll be fine - it's also not like you'll have to find things in your inventory in the midst of battle, if you do then you've obviously entered that battle unprepared and that's your problem.

    NWN has shown that inventory tetris still works, and you can hold a lot of items through use of pages.

    Titan's Quest showed that tetris style is actually fast to organise due to a neat feature called an organisation button. One click and it's still easier to find your items due to their size compared to other items.
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    posted a message on Diablo 3 Art Direction No Going Back
    Quote from "Dimebog" »
    - Inventory exists. If you want to play tetris, go play tetris, it's another game.
    - That's not even a sentence. The point still remains. Which full-blown 3D game has enough realism to please you? Ah yes - every single game in the market. Too bad that they start looking like crap as soon as new 3D technologies take over.

    While there is strength and weakness in both styles, the advantage of inventory "tetris" is that it's relatively quick to organise and find what's in your inventory. It can also have just as much space as a single-slot system, judging by how NWN used the "tetris" inventory. The disadvantage is the fact that you can't show nearly as much on the screen at once, and compared to a fully organised single-slot isn't as efficient. The problem is it's a constant effort to keep the single-slot organized, and can be a hassle to find items you don't want in your inventory.

    As to full-blow 3D game that has enough realism, I'd say Gears of War is a pretty good example, but I'd still prefer Halo 3 in terms of visual quality.
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    posted a message on Colours Discussion Has Ended! Call a truce?
    Quote from "Dimebog" »
    If someone can say FU to Blizzard on this site and not get banned, then I'd rather be the one who does get banned.

    I've said "FU" to Blizzard in the past over a certain other game.

    Doesn't make me any less of a fan of their games that I've played since 1997.

    Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean you can tell others what their opinion should be.
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    posted a message on Colours Discussion Has Ended! Call a truce?
    Quote from "Dimebog" »
    A fan could never say 'f*** you Blizzard'.

    I was aware of the amount of impertinence going on in this so called 'community' of WoW-haters, but saying something like that..... You can't be a fan and say that, simply.

    By the way:

    Fuck you hating emo retards for trying to screw up my D3 experience.

    Nice flame and troll post.

    You're looking for the fast track to a ban, aren't you?
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    posted a message on Diablo 3 Art Direction No Going Back
    Description of Straw Man

    The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. This sort of "reasoning" has the following pattern:

    1. Person A has position X.
    2. Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).
    3. Person B attacks position Y.
    4. Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.
    This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself. One might as well expect an attack on a poor drawing of a person to hurt the person.
    Examples of Straw Man


    1. Prof. Jones: "The university just cut our yearly budget by $10,000."
    2. Prof. Smith: "What are we going to do?"
      Prof. Brown: "I think we should eliminate one of the teaching assistant positions. That would take care of it."
      Prof. Jones: "We could reduce our scheduled raises instead."
      Prof. Brown: " I can't understand why you want to bleed us dry like that, Jones."
    3. "Senator Jones says that we should not fund the attack submarine program. I disagree entirely. I can't understand why he wants to leave us defenseless like that."
    4. Bill and Jill are arguing about cleaning out their closets:
    5. Jill: "We should clean out the closets. They are getting a bit messy."
      Bill: "Why, we just went through those closets last year. Do we have to clean them out everyday?"
      Jill: "I never said anything about cleaning them out every day. You just want too keep all your junk forever, which is just ridiculous."

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    posted a message on Guns in Diablo 3? Maybe?
    Quote from "Arbedark" »
    And why can't there be a MAGIC hand cannon?

    Anyway, crossbows were unwieldly in the middle ages, yet no one minds them being able to shoot at over 2 shots a second in D2...

    Magic arquebus would need a lot of magic, for the powder, ball, and gun itself.

    Now, I could see the idea for a gun that fires magical spells. Like a cannon of fireball, or cannon of glacial spike. But those might be on the overpowered side and eliminate the need for a mage class.
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    posted a message on Guns in Diablo 3? Maybe?
    Quote from "Arbedark" »
    I'm not going to spend half an hour in the library searching for quotes to back me up fucktard, yes I do if I'm actually doing a freaking paper, but this is a forum.

    As for your entire post, while it may be historically accurate it doesn't provide a compelling argument as to why guns shouldn't be in D3 in basic form.

    Complaining that they're too underpowered or whatever? Yeah, and a freaking Bow can kill Diablo as quick as MAGIC?

    It's a MAGIC bow.

    Also, this is a pretty good reason for why an arquebus is unwieldy in single combat:

    http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Campground/8551/drill.html
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    posted a message on Colours Discussion Has Ended! Call a truce?
    In this thread, no one knows what a hyperbole is.
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    posted a message on Guns in Diablo 3? Maybe?
    Quote from "Arbedark" »
    Short sword = only useful in formation dumbass, since it can be used as a thrusting weapon with interlocking shields

    In open combat, longswords are infinitely better.

    Did ANYONE suggest that the barb would be a specialist in any "guns" in D3? No. So your last comment is truly retarded.

    "English took so much territory in the old days"...

    Yes, the longbow was a great weapon AT THE TIME, since it could fire further than any other bows, but you know what, the English too a lot more territory when they had guns, thats right, the British Empire, suck on that.

    Seriously though, why no to guns solely based on being "underpowered" compared to a bow? A leather cap provides less protection than a steel helm, yet both are in D2...

    Come up with a half decent argument before deriding something next time...

    I'm going to explain this to you, as I have done to others in this thread, in ways that even one as ignorant in history as you can understand.

    The gun, pre-civil war, was a totally inaccurate and clumsy weapon. In comparison to a common hunting bow it had less range and less a chance of scoring a kill in the hands of one man.

    However, the strength of the gun was not in it's ability to out-perform the bow and crossbow, it was the fact that you could train one-thousand peasants to fire a gun in formation for the same cost and less time of training one-hundred men to use a bow in combat. This started more lords fielding lines of cheap gunmen, and slowly overtook the use of the bow. With the gun and cannon now the primary ways of fighting, people looked for better ways to kill with a gun. Longer barrels proved more accurate, firing mechanisms that were faster than the flintlocke.

    Rifling and semi-automatic pump rifles didn't even exist until before the civil war was over. A gun in Diablo would be an un-rifled, single-shot, flintlocke that could hit the broadside of a barn only if there was no wind and you were standing within 10 metres.

    Edit:

    If you cite Wikipedia as a source, you've already lost your argument. Go to college or pass highschool, you'll find out that they will not take citations from Wikipedia.
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    posted a message on Guns in Diablo 3? Maybe?
    Diablo 40k

    Just imagine.

    Also, LinkX, I was the one who said the qoute in your sig. I was raging after someone reported me for arguing.
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    posted a message on Diablo 3 Art Direction No Going Back
    Quote from "Sandman53" »
    Yea, basically everything that could be said... has been said. Now it turns into a bunch of repetitious arguments and flaming. Both sides have gone overboard. Personally I think it hit the ceiling when Hello Kitty made it in there, and then to the otherside when they were trying to explain the green light.

    I am in the gray area. I am neither for the changes, nor really against them. Basically I don't give a damn. What I don't like is people taking each side to the extreme. We can't really discuss anything new related to the graphical design until more information is revealed now.

    But that won't stop people ^_^

    I tried to stay out of the whole thing as much as possible, while I want grittier I don't want graphics overhaul. I'd prefer they choose different ambient lighting that fit. Some people will say that it's light reflecting off of blue stone, but I have a brick walled basement, and if I light a candle down there it doesn't make the whole room glow red.
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    posted a message on Colours Discussion Has Ended! Call a truce?
    Quote from "USNSEALs" »
    Whoa, giving the Diablo III fanbase the middle finger?

    You mean you pestering something odd thousand?

    Your paper holder base compared to our few million plus continent base isn't worth shit.

    If one million people buy it - do you know what that makes you? 5%
    If the same number of D2 sales? 1%

    I won't end with a real jackass, bitch ass remark like petitioners usually do.
    No coup de grace needed.
    Flawless victory.

    Your lack of basic understanding of how statistics work is appalling.
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