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    posted a message on Was Baal's Soulstone destroyed?
    Quote from "LinkX" »
    His soulstone was shattered prior to Diablo 1. Tal'Rasha had one shard and used it to contain Baal for a long long time, but eventually lost the battle.

    So, while it is shattered, it is not completely destroyed.

    Which brings up the question: When you smashed Diablo's and Mephisto's soulstones, did you just shatter them, or did you completely obliterate them?

    As for the use of the Soulstones, they were used to imprison The Three centuries(?) ago, by Cain's ancestors I believe.

    Diablo's soulstone was also shattered in a similar manner to Baal's; the soulstone which was eventually embedded in the Wanderer's head was technically just a splinter of it.

    It was stated fairly clearly that, by smashing a soulstone on the Hellforge,
    you banish the soul within from the world. The destruction of the Worldstone seems to be the only loophole around this.

    Back on the topic post:
    At the end of LoD, it simply would've been anticlimactic to see your character or Tyrael trek all the way to Hell just to smash the stone, and it would basically confirm that the world survived (which we didn't necessarily know yet) or that Tyrael was still the same being.

    The Diablo III writers, who may be working on prior frameworks left by Blizzard North or may be creating the story from scratch, can interpret this either way.
    Posted in: Lore & Storyline
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    posted a message on Discussion: The last class is NOT a ranged class
    Quote from "OathofChaos" »
    Okay, I've read a lot of threads saying that the last class will be some sort of Rogue // Amazon type thing.

    The whole point of this thread is to discuss how it won't be (or for you to prove me wrong). I will be using logic and citations to prove my case. Please be mature and discuss rationally.

    We've seen several archetypes thus far in what Blizzard has released:
    ~Barbarian - Sword and Shield type pure Melee warrior
    ~Witch Doctor - Enemy Manipulation, Damage over Time, and minion creator
    ~Wizard - Pure caster
    ~Monk - Speed Powerhouse

    And Damage Archetypes being;
    ~Pure Strong Melee (Barbarian)
    ~Disease and Fire (Witch Doctor)
    ~Lightning, Arcane, Cold (Wizard)
    ~Holy and Fast, Weaker Melee (Monk)

    Now, if you've seen any of the gameplay footage, we all know that each class can hold its own in both short and long range battles. Even the Barbarian uses Ground Slam and Leap Attack, and the Wizard uses something similar to Arcane Explosion.
    Barbarian Gameplay Video
    Witch Doctor Gameplay Video
    Wizard Gameplay Video
    Monk Gameplay Video


    Being that each class is capable of decimating its opponent at all ranges, we can safely assume that the last class will be able to do that very same thing. Based on this strand of logic, the last class cannot be a pure ranged class.

    Now, someone had pointed out to me earlier that a short bow was shown as a dropped item in the Barbarian gameplay trailer at around 3:55. That is an excellent counterpoint, but the only issue is that the game has evolved quite a bit since then. To illustrate my point, I challenge you to find a Staff, some type of Claw-type weapon, or a wizard's orb in any of the previous videos, before the class was announced. I watched each video closely and didn't find it at all. Why? The game has changed tremendously.

    So, now that I've finally laid my claim, I challenge you all to an honest debate as to why I'm wrong.

    You're forgetting that there was somewhat of a big deal about the new ranged weapons not requiring ammo, which essentially confirms they're in the game, and necessitates that the final class has at least some bow sills.
    Posted in: Unannounced Class
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    posted a message on No more game announcements for BlizzCon '07
    Reviving this thread is like bumping a 1987 article called "Terrorist Attack Foiled" a few weeks after 9/11. :(
    Posted in: News & Announcements
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    posted a message on Diablo III Thoughts From Ex-Blizzard Employee
    If there's an option to turn off the floating text in Diablo III, I'll certainly use it, but I honestly hope the whole concept gets scrapped in pre-release. It doesn't seem to be something Blizzard feels strongly about, and I can't see how it would contribute to the gameplay or feel. Now that I think about it, it could certainly help deaf or hard-of-hearing players, but the sounds for blocking and crits are certainly sufficient (and make sense, whereas a flying number doesn't). Still, it's nothing to bitch about; just a minor complaint if it ships with the game.

    I definiately have nothing against the Barbarian coming back. Even though the Diablo series has traditionally had totally new classes with every release, it's great to know that not only does the hero that engaged in such corageous actions throughout Diablo II survived, but he's back to continue his journey. This is one merit of Blizzard taking over: Diablo II's ending gave no indication as to the hero's fate, and only with the disbanding of Blizzard North do we get to actually play him again. I do realize that, in the canon, a group of heroes accomplished these feats, but since most of them are obviously not playable, they're likely corrupted bosses by now. The Barbarian and his buddy that's kept from the previous game, whomever that may be, are the only heroes that Terror can't best (yet).
    Posted in: News & Announcements
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    posted a message on Φ *New* Site Design Suggestions
    Haha, I didn't mean to imply at all that I believed that the author of the forum-descriptions was uneducated, just that many might get that impression. I think the wording in that might've been somewhat strong; the person reading the entries may be more likely to think that the site in general is targeted at a younger and/or more-uneducated group, rather than singling the author of the entries out, since he or she is not directly credited. I know there are things that I've written that must've been much more unintelligable than the site's grammar; I'm mostly pointing out minor mistakes that definately don't hinder the site in a significant way. By no means should anyone's intellect or comprehension of English be questioned if they contributed something similar to the site's forum-descriptions.
    Posted in: Site Feedback
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    posted a message on Read And Learn
    He truly is a disciple of the Four Day 96-Hour Horadric Cube.
    Posted in: Lore & Storyline
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    posted a message on Φ *New* Site Design Suggestions
    Sorry about that. I'd like to modify the suggestion to suggest the Roleplaying forum be moved to the "General" section, and its description be modified as thus:
    Roleplaying
    Our forum for Roleplaying
    changed to:
    Roleplaying
    All roleplaying threads go here.
    Also, since the Art, et cetera forums will remain, I think it would be redundant to fix the grammar of each one individually in this post. It should be easy enough for the administrator that does so, with these ideas in mind:
    • The "for/all" change.
    • The fixation of case for non-proper nouns, such as turning "Music" into "music".
    • Adding a period at the end for consistency with descriptions that contain more than one sentence.
    • Adding the "(x Viewing)" field for consistency, which many of these forums lack.
    Thanks for moving the thread, by the way! :D
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    posted a message on Φ *New* Site Design Suggestions
    62.

    First off, I'd like to say that I'm not a grammar Nazi, nor am I angered by or deterred from visiting this site by the quality of its writing. I can say, however, that it would have a much more mature atmosphere if a few minor tweaks were made, and since those tweaks would involve text only, they shouldn't require that much work. Specifically, I believe the following actions would help this site a lot:
    • Replace all instances of "Diablo 3" with "Diablo III": "Diablo 3" just seems like a shortcut that takes out two characters, especially now that the official title has been announced. If the true name of the Diablo game the site primarily concerns is provided, it would communicate more attention to detail by the site's staff, and make it an even more popular resource for news regarding the series.
    • Fix Forum Titles and Descriptions: The descriptions of each of the forums seems to fluctuate between imperative and descriptive, and seem inconsistent overall. A few minor tweaks could remedy this, as shown below:
    News & Announcements (x Viewing)
    All the news that we feel you should know will be posted here. You may also post a news thread as well. Note that your news post will not show up until it is approved by our staff!


    changed to:
    News & Announcements (x Viewing)
    All the news that we feel you should know and all the news you would like to share will be posted here. Note that your news post will not be posted until it is approved by our staff.

    The little sentence in the middle seemed irregular, considering the one before it. The exclamation point and italics seemed to overdo it; simply stating it plainly, in bold and with a period could do wonders in getting the intended message across. "Be posted" seems like a much more mature choice of words than "show up".
    Introduction Forum (x Viewing)
    All new members, introduce yourself in this forum


    changed to:
    Introduction Forum (x Viewing)
    All new members, introduce yourself in this forum.


    Simple things like adding a period at the end can do wonders when trying to convey professionalism and intelligence.
    Diablo 3 (x Viewing)
    For discussions about Blizzard's upcoming game Diablo III



    changed to:
    Diablo III (x Viewing)
    All discussions concerning Blizzard's upcoming title, Diablo III.

    The "for" seems like a caveman way of starting a sentence, which is why it's been replaced totally for the rest of this suggestion. Starting the sentence with "all" conveys the message much more strongly, "concerning" conveys more intelligence than "about", and there was most certainly a comma missing.
    Diablo 2 & LoD (x Viewing)
    For discussions on Diablo II and it's expansion Lord of Destruction


    changed to:
    Diablo II & Diablo II: Lord of Destruction (x Viewing)
    All discussions concerning Diablo II and its expansion, Lord of Destruction.

    This was one of the more problematic forum-descriptions. After reading the old version, a neutral party would likely think that this section of the site was created by very young and/or uneducated individuals, and hence be subconsciously discouraged from posting. In addition to some of the problems pointed out in previous entries, a Roman numeral was replaced with an Arabic numeral, an abbreviation was used, and a pronoun was given an apostrophe in its possessive form.
    Diablo & Hellfire (x Viewing)
    For discussions about Diablo and it's expansion, Hellfire


    changed to:
    Diablo & Diablo: Hellfire (x Viewing)
    All discussions concerning Diablo and its third-party expansion, Hellfire.


    In addition to other mistakes pointed out earlier, I think it would be helpful to make it clear that Hellfire was made by a third-party company, and hence has yet to be confirmed as cannon. Someone not familiar with this fact might think that they also have to purchase an expansion that is now difficult to find in order to play the entire official Diablo series.
    Diablo General Discussion (x Viewing)
    For discussions about the Diablo series not fitting in any other catergory


    changed to:
    Diablo General Discussion (x Viewing)
    All discussions concerning the Diablo series not fitting in any other category.


    "Category" was misspelled, in addition to the other mistakes.
    Fan Art (x Viewing)
    For Fan Art of the Diablo series. Any other art should go in the General Art section

    and
    Diablo Wallpaper and OS Art (x Viewing)
    For Diablo Wallpapers and Operating System Art

    merged and changed to:
    Diablo Fan Creations (x Viewing)
    All wallpapers, themes and art pertaining to the Diablo series should be posted here.

    The two forums seem too closely related to be separate, and merging them reduces clutter all the more.
    Lore and Storyline (x Viewing)
    For discussions on the Lore and Storyline of the Diablo series


    changed to:
    Diablo Lore and Storyline Discussion (x Viewing)
    Discuss the lore and storyline of the Diablo series here.


    The other titles also make it clear that the forum pertains to the Diablo series, and "lore" and "storyline" are not proper nouns. Adding "Discussion" at the end makes it linguistically clear that, once I click on the link, the threads I see are going to be discussions of Diablo's lore and storyline, not Diablo's lore and storyline itself.
    Diablo Polls (x Viewing)
    For all polls related to the Diablo Series. Note that your poll will not show up until it is approved by our staff!


    changed to:
    Diablo Polls (x Viewing)
    All polls related to the Diablo series are to be posted here. Note that your poll will not be posted until it is approved by our staff.


    You may want to consider making this a sub-forum ofDiablo General Discussion.
    General Discussion (x Viewing)
    For discussions that don't really fit in any other sections but still have a point


    changed to:
    General Discussion (x Viewing)
    All constructive discussions not fitting within any other forums go here.



    General Polls (x Viewing)
    For all polls not related to the Diablo Series. Note that your poll will not show up until it is approved by our staff!


    changed to:
    General Polls (x Viewing)
    All polls not related to the Diablo Series are to be posted here. Note that your poll will be posted up until it is approved by our staff.


    You may want to make this a sub-forum of General Discussion.
    SICK Clan Forums
    Silver Inferno Crusading Knights


    changed to:
    SICK Clan Forum (x Viewing)
    Home of SICK, the Silver Inferno Crusading Knights.

    "Silver Inferno Crusading Knights" by itself seems incredibly out of place when all other descriptions are in complete sentences. Also, the SICK Clan is given one forum, not multiple forums. The "(x Viewing)" field seems to be missing, and unless these forums are of exception, it should be there.
    Travincal
    Where the resident's of the temple city of Travincal live, and vistors come.

    changed to:
    Travincal (x Viewing)
    Where the residents of the temple-city of Travincal live and visitors gaze in awe.
    This should be moved up above "Roleplaying", since it apparently also pertains to a clan. The "(x Viewing)" field is also missing, and "residents" is not possessive at all. Also, "visitors" was misspelled (credits: Ivaron =D).
    Roleplaying
    Our forum for Roleplaying


    changed to:
    DiabloFans.com Roleplaying (x Viewing)
    Our forum for roleplaying within DiabloFans.com's storyline of events.
    Without the "DiabloFans.com", this forum is not specific to any group, and hence should not be in the Guilds and Clubs section. It seems to be exclusive to Elfen Lied's "D3.com" group of roleplaying threads, so this title and description would make sense.










    You may have noticed that I have not included the Movies & TV, Books, Comics, & Writing, Other Games, Music or General Art forums with grammatical corrections. This brings me to the second part of this thread.

    I believe the aforementioned forums should be merged into General Discussion. They seem to exist only to extend the number of forums, and are relatively unpopular by themselves. Merging them into General Discussion will still allow them to be discussed while reducing layout and making the forums in general pertain more to the Diablo series. Right now, only twelve out of twenty-one do.

    Again, I would like to reiterate that I am not complaining. I am not angry or distressed at the grammar of the forums; I just feel that if it were improved, newer users with greater levels of maturity may be attained while existing users get the impression of a professionally-designed and superior site. Please don't take any part of this thread as an insult; it only serves as a document of analysis and suggestion.
    Posted in: Site Feedback
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    posted a message on Suggestions: Site Grammar and Forum Merges
    First off, I'd like to say that I'm not a grammar Nazi, nor am I angered by or deterred from visiting this site by the quality of its writing. I can say, however, that it would have a much more mature atmosphere if a few minor tweaks were made, and since those tweaks would involve text only, they shouldn't require that much work. Specifically, I believe the following actions would help this site a lot:
    • Replace all instances of "Diablo 3" with "Diablo III": "Diablo 3" just seems like a shortcut that takes out two characters, especially now that the official title has been announced. If the true name of the Diablo game the site primarily concerns is provided, it would communicate more attention to detail by the site's staff, and make it an even more popular resource for news regarding the series.
    • Fix Forum Titles and Descriptions: The descriptions of each of the forums seems to fluctuate between imperative and descriptive, and seem inconsistent overall. A few minor tweaks could remedy this, as shown below:
    News & Announcements (x Viewing)
    All the news that we feel you should know will be posted here. You may also post a news thread as well. Note that your news post will not show up until it is approved by our staff!
    changed to:
    News & Announcements (x Viewing)
    All the news that we feel you should know and all the news you would like to share will be posted here. Note that your news post will not be posted until it is approved by our staff.
    The little sentence in the middle seemed irregular, considering the one before it. The exclamation point and italics seemed to overdo it; simply stating it plainly, in bold and with a period could do wonders in getting the intended message across. "Be posted" seems like a much more mature choice of words than "show up".

    Introduction Forum (x Viewing)
    All new members, introduce yourself in this forum
    changed to:
    Introduction Forum (x Viewing)
    All new members, introduce yourself in this forum.
    Simple things like adding a period at the end can do wonders when trying to convey professionalism and intelligence.

    Site Suggestions and Questions (x Viewing)
    Have a problem? Have an idea for the site? Post it here
    changed to:
    Site Suggestions and Questions (x Viewing)
    Have a problem? Have an idea for the site? Post it here!

    Diablo 3 (x Viewing)
    For discussions about Blizzard's upcoming game Diablo III
    changed to:
    Diablo III (x Viewing)
    All discussions concerning Blizzard's upcoming title, Diablo III.
    The "for" seems like a caveman way of starting a sentence, which is why it's been replaced totally for the rest of this suggestion. Starting the sentence with "all" conveys the message much more strongly, "concerning" conveys more intelligence than "about", and there was most certainly a comma missing.
    Diablo 2 & LoD (x Viewing)
    For discussions on Diablo II and it's expansion Lord of Destruction
    changed to:
    Diablo II & Diablo II: Lord of Destruction (x Viewing)
    All discussions concerning Diablo II and its expansion, Lord of Destruction.
    This was one of the more problematic forum-descriptions. After reading the old version, a neutral party would likely think that this section of the site was created by very young and/or uneducated individuals, and hence be subconsciously discouraged from posting. In addition to some of the problems pointed out in previous entries, a Roman numeral was replaced with an Arabic numeral, an abbreviation was used, and a pronoun was given an apostrophe in its possessive form.
    Diablo & Hellfire (x Viewing)
    For discussions about Diablo and it's expansion, Hellfire
    changed to:
    Diablo & Diablo: Hellfire (x Viewing)
    All discussions concerning Diablo and its third-party expansion, Hellfire.
    In addition to other mistakes pointed out earlier, I think it would be helpful to make it clear that Hellfire was made by a third-party company, and hence has yet to be confirmed as cannon. Someone not familiar with this fact might think that they also have to purchase an expansion that is now difficult to find in order to play the entire official Diablo series.
    Diablo General Discussion (x Viewing)
    For discussions about the Diablo series not fitting in any other catergory
    changed to:
    Diablo General Discussion (x Viewing)
    All discussions concerning the Diablo series not fitting in any other category.
    "Category" was misspelled, in addition to the other mistakes.
    Fan Art (x Viewing)
    For Fan Art of the Diablo series. Any other art should go in the General Art section
    and
    Diablo Wallpaper and OS Art (x Viewing)
    For Diablo Wallpapers and Operating System Art
    merged and changed to:
    Diablo Fan Creations (x Viewing)
    All wallpapers, themes and art pertaining to the Diablo series should be posted here.
    The two forums seem too closely related to be seperate, and merging them reduces clutter all the more.
    Lore and Storyline (x Viewing)
    For discussions on the Lore and Storyline of the Diablo series
    changed to:
    Diablo Lore and Storyline Discussion (x Viewing)
    Discuss the lore and storyline of the Diablo series here.
    The other titles also make it clear that the forum pertains to the Diablo series, and "lore" and "storyline" are not proper nouns. Adding "Discussion" at the end makes it linguistically clear that, once I click on the link, the threads I see are going to be discussions of Diablo's lore and storyline, not Diablo's lore and storyline itself.
    Diablo Polls (x Viewing)
    For all polls related to the Diablo Series. Note that your poll will not show up until it is approved by our staff!
    changed to:
    Diablo Polls (x Viewing)
    All polls related to the Diablo series are to be posted here. Note that your poll will not be posted until it is approved by our staff.
    You may want to consider making this a sub-forum of Diablo General Discussion.

    General Discussion (x Viewing)
    For discussions that don't really fit in any other sections but still have a point
    changed to:
    General Discussion (x Viewing)
    For constructive discussions not fitting within any other forums.

    General Polls (x Viewing)
    For all polls not related to the Diablo Series. Note that your poll will not show up until it is approved by our staff!
    changed to:
    General Polls (x Viewing)
    All polls not related to the Diablo Series are to be posted here. Note that your poll will be posted up until it is approved by our staff.
    You may want to make this a sub-forum of General Discussion.
    SICK Clan Forums
    Silver Inferno Crusading Knights
    changed to:
    SICK Clan Forum (x Viewing)
    Home of SICK, the Silver Inferno Crusading Knights.
    "Silver Inferno Crusading Knights" by itself seems incredibly out of place when all other descriptions are in complete sentences. Also, the SICK Clan is given one forum, not multiple forums. The "(x Viewing)" field seems to be missing, and unless these forums are of exception, it should be there.
    Travincal
    Where the resident's of the temple city of Travincal live, and vistors come.
    changed to:
    Travincal (x Viewing)
    Where the residents of the temple-city of Travincal live and vistors gaze in awe.
    This should be moved up above "Roleplaying", since it apparently also pertains to a clan. The "(x Viewing)" field is also missing, and "residents" is not posessive at all.
    Roleplaying
    Our forum for Roleplaying
    changed to:
    DiabloFans.com Roleplaying (x Viewing)
    Our forum for roleplaying within DiabloFans.com's storyline of events.
    Without the "DiabloFans.com", this forum is not specific to any group, and hence should not be in the Guilds and Clubs section. It seems to be exclusive to Elfen Lied's "D3.com" group of roleplaying threads, so this title and description would make sense.


    You may have noticed that I have not included the Movies & TV, Books, Comics, & Writing, Other Games, Music or General Art forums with grammatical corrections. This brings me to the second part of this thread.

    I believe the aforementioned forums should be merged into General Discussion. They seem to exist only to extend the number of forums, and are relatively unpopular by themselves. Merging them into General Discussion will still allow them to be discussed while reducing layout and making the forums in general pertain more to the Diablo series. Right now, only twelve out of twenty-one do.

    Again, I would like to reiterate that I am not complaining. I am not angry or distressed at the grammar of the forums; I just feel that if it were improved, newer users with greater levels of maturity may be attained while existing users get the impression of a professionally-designed and superior site. Please don't take any part of this thread as an insult; it only serves as a document of analysis and suggestion.








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    posted a message on Official BlizzCast 5 Q&A Submissions
    How different will the rune-system be in Diablo III? Will old runewords be preserved? Does the "minor fatality rune" featured in the gameplay trailer mean that runes no longer have individual names, such as Hel and Shael?

    What new stats will be added, and what old stats will be preserved? The trailer seemed to suggest that a "Willpower" stat may be added to the game, possibly among others.

    Will new classes of gems be added? Will different shapes of gems have different effects, as seen in the "Chipped Star Topaz"? Will gems continue to change the color of items in which they are socketed, or do they apply a particle-based visual effect instead?

    Will the LAN, Open Battle.net and Direct IP options be retained in multiplayer?

    Is it possible to interact with and/or destroy any structure imaginable, or will destructible elements in the environment be limited to preserve game balance? Can you theoretically kill everything just by smashing walls/trees/rocks?

    Will every town NPC still offer commentary on every quest, as well as an introduction and the "gossip" option? Will players that enjoy dialogue with NPCs have a chance to learn from Cain the secrets contained within Tristram's cathedral's volumes?

    Is the waypoint system retained or replaced with a new system?

    Will Unique monsters still have the creative names? The Thousand Pounder was nice, but we all have a special place for Puke Pus in our hearts.

    Will ranged weapons still take ammunition and thrown weapons still decrease in quantity? Does equipment still degrade over time? Are thrown potions, charms, keys, et cetera still included?

    Will the Horadric Cube make a return? Does Cain still identify items for free?

    Does the questing interface still have those cool icons that burn out once you complete the associated quest?
    Posted in: News & Announcements
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    posted a message on Act 4 Corrupted Tyrael End Boss
    Quote from "Zombie_Kamikaze13" »
    It will be inevitable to fight angels yes, but there is now no way of banishing a soul from the mortal plane, since The worldstone is gone, the line between the Dimensions is weakened
    I was speaking of killing the physical host of Diablo, possibly banishing his spirit to Hell (not the Abyss) just like you would a Lesser Evil, now that the Soulstones are gone. The Worldstone's destruction, by the way, would not be an issue if the rest of my speculation were taken into account, though I now realize (unless I'm mistaken again) that the Worldstone cloaked sanctuary, rather than sealing it off, which may invalidate much of it.
    Posted in: Lore & Storyline
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    posted a message on Diablo III's Fallen Shaman Spotted?
    He's missing the iconic chin and shoulder-pads, but I think this one might be super-unique. Maybe the white part isn't an underbelly, but a marking of ashes given to the highest of Fallen?
    Posted in: News & Announcements
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    posted a message on Sup Everyone =]
    Welcome! =D
    Posted in: Introduction
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    posted a message on The right idea, but having trouble translating it into the game?
    Quote from "DarthKarnage" »
    Honestly, I doubt any of the locations seen in the concept art were locations from the demo so why dont you calm yourselves down and wait till you see the finished product! Theres a little thing called contrast. Besides, the outdoors there looked darker than the deserts of act 2 on d2 so chill

    The most common counter-complaint regarding the art direction is that players should wait until they see the finished product to offer critique, but it's much easier to make revisions while you're still developing the game. In fact, Blizzard relies on this early feedback.

    That being said, I agree with the title post. =D
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    posted a message on Design Decisions 2: What should be the maximum number of players in a party?
    Less than four seems like a good choice to me. It would be a much more personalized experience (one isn't even compelled to say "hi" when seven other player-icons appear at the top of the screen), and having more than five characters in a party would be a terrible sin, since you'd have more than one instance of one particular class.
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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