2. Atheist, monotheis, polytheist or other spiritual existance (explain your idea of deities): Monotheistic
3. Origin of the Universe, world, and humans: God
4. Morals and ethics (which ones do you apply to your life, where do they come from, and why do we follow them): Few. I fast, I try to pray whenever I can, I'm good to people who deserve it..etc. Each has its explanation. Like, fasting teaches you patience and compassion with the poor. I do them because I can, and I believe in them, quite simply.
5. After-life (what happens after this life): Heaven and Hell
6. Why do you hold these ideals (What made you believe these ideas): Because a life without endgame content is pathetic.
They're funny to most, not to some. There's a difference.
He's expressing what he believes by saying things like "fuck all religions". That's pretty insulting. That's not expressing your beliefs in a civilized manner.
I don't like someone doing whatever they want in every single thread I visit.
No, it's not rude. He's being rude, I'm just sick of it, and I'm the only one who ever calls out anyone on doing something wrong or idiotic. I'm acting like a 12 year old? You're fucking standing up for a guy on an internet forum. He's a grown ass guy, he can defend himself if need be; don't be pulling off this "he's my friend, you're annoying us, back off before I hit you!" bullshit. This wasn't directed at you, what's your business in this?
Saying "fuck all religions" in ANY kind of thread, is completely unacceptable. I don't know what you're saying here, you aren't make any sense, you're wrong on so many levels, it's ridiculous. Seriously bro, you're not cut out for this. Don't argue with me, it'll just drag us into long posts, ending with me completely destroying you.
some of you are attempting to justify extreme, hardcore stuff based on biological concepts, which frankly, dont make sense.
When my hormones are raging, I like to look at porn, because I know I won't find myself banging 3 hot blondes anytime soon, and video is better than my imagination. Hormones play a part, you of all people here should know that.
Let me just start off by saying that it's obvious that none of you have read the Quran, bothered to really understand, and actually asked knowledgeable Muslims about it (I'm not a "knowledgeable Muslim", I just know more stuff about Islam than you guys). I'll explain what I can, though.
So it doesn't say the right prophet killed a few hundred people?
The prophet Muhammad went to war. There were tribes back then, and when he was spreading his message, many naturally opposed him. What was he to do? Give up? Bribe them? He went to war, he won many, and he went into many cities. Do you know what he did when he got into those cities? He didn't loot. He didn't harm women. He didn't harm children. He didn't harm men. Even the people who didn't wish to convert to Islam didn't get treated ANY differently, save the tax they payed because they were now living in a Muslim place, or whatever.
Everyone in the West has this atrocious view with regards to the prophet Muhammad. That he was an adulterous, murdering pedophile. Why? I have no clue. He married a 12 year old girl, because her family had a lot of influence, and he saw in her the potential to keep the word of Islam alive after he was long gone. He didn't have sex with her, he didn't fondle her.
As far as I understand it, there are two significant parts to the Quaran. The first part is generally viewed as the peaceful one, which is what many of you are referencing, and the second part is the more violent one. Pretty much the same concept with the Bible. First part was God killing everyone with fire and plagues, and the second part was all about redemption and Christ overturning the old law. Mephy would probably know the best, though. He lives in Lebanon or something.
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And Venom basically hit my thoughts on the head. Or something, I can never get that thing right. They were radicals, of course they were violent.
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But I've never read it, so I can't say for sure. Definitely ask someone who knows both ends of the story first.
I read the Quran. It's VERY difficult to understand a LOT of things. I speak Arabic. I've been speaking Arabic my entire life. I don't understand 85% of the Quran because its language is so difficult, the meanings are so difficult, and when you think something means this, it turns out that it means something ENTIRELY different. My mother is 51 years old. She read the Quran no less than 60 times, and there are still things she doesn't understand. You expect me to believe that a bunch of teenagers on a web forum get the Quran? You expect me to believe that ignorant piece of shit pastor, spreading hate and planting seeds of partition, truly knows Islam and the Quran? The Quran doesn't have violence in it. It says that God will have his revenge on the heretics. I know for sure that it says that God will punish them for not worshiping Him and for wronging Him. The parts people think spread absolute violence and terror, are VERY often completely and utterly misinterpreted. I don't remember a specific occasion where the Quran tells me to pick up a bomb, strap it to myself, and go kill infidels. Just because random morons in burkas say that God and the Quran told them to kill 2000 innocent people, it doesn't mean that THOSE people know what Islam and the Quran are about, too. It's a very delicate subject, man. I know that in the Old Testament, it was like..pure fucking carnage, but correct me if I'm wrong here, because I'm rusty on my Bible reading, but I think in Mark, someone asks Jesus if the word in the Old Testament is still the word of God, and Jesus says yes.
I heard an interesting discussion today on the radio (yeah, I know, who listens to radio these days?). It was between some guy who tore out pages of the Quaran in front of the White House iirc, and some Islamic woman.
They guy said he tore out the pages that basically said Christians and Jews were infidels who were to be beaten, beheaded, imprisoned, etc, and then he said that prophet Muhammad was known for beheading quite a few people. Generally, he was opposing the notion that Islam was a peaceful religion.
Can anyone who knows something about Islam have some input on this?
Haha, what bullshit. What absolute and utter bullshit. She should've asked that guy if he ever read the Quran, and gotten and actual explanation from a knowledgeable Muslim (a Sheikh) rather than stick to the translation, which was more than likely handed to him by Terry Jones. I'm absolutely certain that no page in the Quran says that Christians are infidels who are to be beaten, imprisoned, beheaded, or whatever. It does say, though, that the Jewish people are traitors of God and shouldn't be liked, and that war should break with them. Guess why? Because in the Torah, it states that the Jews should occupy the land between the Nile, and the Euphrates. Guess who the Quran was aimed at? People in the Arabian Peninsula, back in the day when it was "released" if that's even the proper word. I have the utmost respect for ANY Jewish person, I'm merely telling you why the Quran states that. Muhammad wasn't known for beheading quite a few people, unless said people were murderers, traitors, or committed some form of major crime back then. It's kinda like the electric chair, but with less electricity, and more word blade pressure applied to the neck.
Koran states that all religions are different aspects of viewing Allah, and that prohpets from these religions were on the right path but Muhammad was the true prophet. It also states that Islamic followers should embrace other religions as they all have one common goal. To reach enlightenment through the eyes of the lord and the words of the prophet.
Who told you that? I know that Muhammed said that there are different aspects in ISLAM of viewing Allah, certainly not "all religions". Just Islam, with Islam having several views on matters, but have ultimately the same goal.
So it doesn't say the right prophet killed a few hundred people?
I'm sorry, I guess war against other tribes should have ended with some handshaking and a tequila party. The crusades killed thousands, millions even. The inquisition anyone? Only Muhammed's killings were more justified, but somehow, some people completely forget about that. They only like to focus on everything any Muslim has ever done, and on everything any one who CLAIMS to be a Muslim has ever done, and forget everything else. Wake up. They want you to hate Muslims and Islam because Islam is the biggest threat to Judaism. And guess who has a huge say in America?
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Didn't know you had a daughter, by the way. Nice picture.
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2. Atheist, monotheis, polytheist or other spiritual existance (explain your idea of deities): Monotheistic
3. Origin of the Universe, world, and humans: God
4. Morals and ethics (which ones do you apply to your life, where do they come from, and why do we follow them): Few. I fast, I try to pray whenever I can, I'm good to people who deserve it..etc. Each has its explanation. Like, fasting teaches you patience and compassion with the poor. I do them because I can, and I believe in them, quite simply.
5. After-life (what happens after this life): Heaven and Hell
6. Why do you hold these ideals (What made you believe these ideas): Because a life without endgame content is pathetic.
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Protect Atheism, just don't insult my religion while doing so
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He's expressing what he believes by saying things like "fuck all religions". That's pretty insulting. That's not expressing your beliefs in a civilized manner.
I don't like someone doing whatever they want in every single thread I visit.
No, it's not rude. He's being rude, I'm just sick of it, and I'm the only one who ever calls out anyone on doing something wrong or idiotic. I'm acting like a 12 year old? You're fucking standing up for a guy on an internet forum. He's a grown ass guy, he can defend himself if need be; don't be pulling off this "he's my friend, you're annoying us, back off before I hit you!" bullshit. This wasn't directed at you, what's your business in this?
Saying "fuck all religions" in ANY kind of thread, is completely unacceptable. I don't know what you're saying here, you aren't make any sense, you're wrong on so many levels, it's ridiculous. Seriously bro, you're not cut out for this. Don't argue with me, it'll just drag us into long posts, ending with me completely destroying you.
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When my hormones are raging, I like to look at porn, because I know I won't find myself banging 3 hot blondes anytime soon, and video is better than my imagination. Hormones play a part, you of all people here should know that.
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The prophet Muhammad went to war. There were tribes back then, and when he was spreading his message, many naturally opposed him. What was he to do? Give up? Bribe them? He went to war, he won many, and he went into many cities. Do you know what he did when he got into those cities? He didn't loot. He didn't harm women. He didn't harm children. He didn't harm men. Even the people who didn't wish to convert to Islam didn't get treated ANY differently, save the tax they payed because they were now living in a Muslim place, or whatever.
Everyone in the West has this atrocious view with regards to the prophet Muhammad. That he was an adulterous, murdering pedophile. Why? I have no clue. He married a 12 year old girl, because her family had a lot of influence, and he saw in her the potential to keep the word of Islam alive after he was long gone. He didn't have sex with her, he didn't fondle her.
I read the Quran. It's VERY difficult to understand a LOT of things. I speak Arabic. I've been speaking Arabic my entire life. I don't understand 85% of the Quran because its language is so difficult, the meanings are so difficult, and when you think something means this, it turns out that it means something ENTIRELY different. My mother is 51 years old. She read the Quran no less than 60 times, and there are still things she doesn't understand. You expect me to believe that a bunch of teenagers on a web forum get the Quran? You expect me to believe that ignorant piece of shit pastor, spreading hate and planting seeds of partition, truly knows Islam and the Quran? The Quran doesn't have violence in it. It says that God will have his revenge on the heretics. I know for sure that it says that God will punish them for not worshiping Him and for wronging Him. The parts people think spread absolute violence and terror, are VERY often completely and utterly misinterpreted. I don't remember a specific occasion where the Quran tells me to pick up a bomb, strap it to myself, and go kill infidels. Just because random morons in burkas say that God and the Quran told them to kill 2000 innocent people, it doesn't mean that THOSE people know what Islam and the Quran are about, too. It's a very delicate subject, man. I know that in the Old Testament, it was like..pure fucking carnage, but correct me if I'm wrong here, because I'm rusty on my Bible reading, but I think in Mark, someone asks Jesus if the word in the Old Testament is still the word of God, and Jesus says yes.
Haha, what bullshit. What absolute and utter bullshit. She should've asked that guy if he ever read the Quran, and gotten and actual explanation from a knowledgeable Muslim (a Sheikh) rather than stick to the translation, which was more than likely handed to him by Terry Jones. I'm absolutely certain that no page in the Quran says that Christians are infidels who are to be beaten, imprisoned, beheaded, or whatever. It does say, though, that the Jewish people are traitors of God and shouldn't be liked, and that war should break with them. Guess why? Because in the Torah, it states that the Jews should occupy the land between the Nile, and the Euphrates. Guess who the Quran was aimed at? People in the Arabian Peninsula, back in the day when it was "released" if that's even the proper word. I have the utmost respect for ANY Jewish person, I'm merely telling you why the Quran states that. Muhammad wasn't known for beheading quite a few people, unless said people were murderers, traitors, or committed some form of major crime back then. It's kinda like the electric chair, but with less electricity, and more word blade pressure applied to the neck.
Who told you that? I know that Muhammed said that there are different aspects in ISLAM of viewing Allah, certainly not "all religions". Just Islam, with Islam having several views on matters, but have ultimately the same goal.
I'm sorry, I guess war against other tribes should have ended with some handshaking and a tequila party. The crusades killed thousands, millions even. The inquisition anyone? Only Muhammed's killings were more justified, but somehow, some people completely forget about that. They only like to focus on everything any Muslim has ever done, and on everything any one who CLAIMS to be a Muslim has ever done, and forget everything else. Wake up. They want you to hate Muslims and Islam because Islam is the biggest threat to Judaism. And guess who has a huge say in America?