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I think they should have an item database but under no circumstance should anyone be able to inspect my stats, traits, skills, gear or rune selections. Neither in game nor through battle.net. It's nice to know what specific items exist but if I have a nice rare circlet with random stats, I want that to be kept secret. I like to have some sense of privacy while I explore builds and combinations. If I feel at some point that I have something to share, I'll write a guide or share the info amongst friends and guildies. To have an option to inspect feels akin to walkin in the mall and seeing a pretty lady, walking up to her and lifting her shirt to inspect her bra size without ever asking. If someone wants to know what I use they can ask and I should have the right to refuse.

Once in a while. If it is like the random dungeon groups you get thrown in on WoW then I don't think I'll like it much. I'll still go in and mess around when I don't feel like slaying demons.

I'm a little curious though. Is there any way to convince a person they are not wanted in your game without the ability to pk? Sometimes it seems like this is the only proper recourse to someone's behavior.

All valid points. As far as the color goes, it is certainly something I can live with. Does it scream "Diablo" to me? No it doesn't come close. I understand where Blizzard made that decision to go the way they did but I don't wholly agree with it. It's hard to explain but Diablo had a certain feel for it. The graphics sucked ass but there was this dark feeling to all the environments. It felt like Evil. In the D3 videos we see darker dungeons but they just look artistic and fairytailish. That's about the best way I can describe it.

If the crafting takes time, between 2-10 minutes like you say. That isn't something I will like to do. I liked the instantaneous results of the cube. And the recipes for it weren't all that hard to find if you cared to look. Would it have been better to have them located somewhere in game? Of course, but it didn't stop me from putting in the effort to figure out what this little wonderous cube could do. And it was a wonderous thing.

I'd like to say 1 thing about what you said about PvP. If I have to relog or make a private game or whatever after having partially cleared an area is that not also hindering my progress? I don't like to play solo all the time and I like to meet new players and you can't do that in passworded games. I can't agree with Blizzard's stance on PvP being removed even though I have been griefed from it. Usually hardcore mode and tppk was where I got mad about it or disagreed about how it was implemented.

Aion, Rift, WoW all failed me in 1 respect. You can't pk when someone deserves it. If I was being rude or an ass to someone I would expect to be pked. Also I disagree that pk was only fun for the pker. When I'd join duel games to mf in and someone would hunt me down. That was a cool feeling even if I died. At least the person put the effort in to find me instead of camping the town gate as was the standard.

All this is really irrelavant. I am undoubtedly buying the game and rolling a wizard at launch. First and foremost I am finishing out the Diablo storyline. I just hope this game makes me want to keep coming back and rerolling characters like I did on D2. right now I am kind of skeptical that it will but I remain hopeful.

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Workin on your post count?

I'd like to start out by saying how excited I am that after such a long wait D3 is getting closer everyday. I'm sure you can relate.

I must admit that there are a number of areas of concern to me. I'll preface this by saying that these are my views and opinions and mine alone. You may or may not agree with some of them. Get your own damn opinion! It is not my intention to foist upon you my point of view. I strongly urge you take a look at what D3 has to offer and form your own opinion.

After reading through what we know about D3 so far I've got to thinking what it was about D2 that keeps me playing year after year and some of those things have changed drastically in D3. While I realize that D3 is not D2 this is the same title and Blizzard will hope to copy the success of D2. I feel that too much deviation will ruin it's success in the long run.

I'll get these out of the way since they aren't a deal breaker for me and have been stated over and over again. The graphics. It's been said before... They're too bright and cartoony. I can live with it though. Achievements. I personally think they are lame and if I get no reward for obtaining an achievement, I can live without them. Moving on.

Open world PvP and battle arenas. I hate the idea that they've removed open world PvP. The biggest reason I ever pked people on D2 was because they were interferring or hindering my game progress by clearing areas me or my party were not to yet. If you acted like an asshat in my game, you were dealt with on the spot. Without the ability to pk a person they can remain in my game and do as they please, go ahead and wipe out areas of mobs, being rude, talking shit behind their keyboard, etc. Unless they implement a vote to kick option I see this as a very bad thing for me personally. I doubt I will spend much time in the battle arena as there is no reward and as it looks they are mainly focusing on team PvP. Now, depending on how this plays out will ultimately guide my decision whether I will play this game over and over again like D2. I NEED the ability to let someone know they've crossed a line with me. I'm not a dick but I offer respect and expect it in return. When that doesn't happen someone needs to die, like, RIGHT NOW! I just feel as though Blizzard didn't take into account people with my position or stop to think... What would make another player want to kill another player? They need to take into consideration pk wasn't always used to grief other players. Sometimes it was the solution to the griefing.

Loot drops being seen by individual party members. Call me crazy but I liked the scramble to grab loots in a multiplayer game. Sure I missed out on some awesome loots but so did 6 other people. You keep grinding and find it or build wealth to trade for it. If you happened to grab that loot you were fired up that you snagged it and had a nice item to trade or use. It just seems like a cry baby solution to the player drops. The biggest problem I find on D2 is players with Pickit. That shit is just unfair to all those that play legit. Fix that 1 thing about drops and I am 100% happy. Again this is something I can live with and is not a deal breaker for me.

Auto-stats are another point of contention with me. On D2 you were punished severely for not putting your stats into the right place or felt robbed when you found a 2nd item with better stats than the one you spent stats for. That's why they added tokens right? If you loused up you could redo it and not have to play another character up. On the other hand it's what allowed for various customization of builds or the difference between making an energy shield sorc or high/max block sorc. While they will have stats on items to allow customization I feel that this system is just too different and really I need to see how it plays out in game before I decide if I can live with it. I'm not pleased that my levels alone will determine what my stats are. Unless they changed it and you get a stat point each level to spend at your discretion. I didn't see that anywhere though. I see the talisman has a places for charms or something to that effect so I'll definitely be experimenting with that.

The crafting system seems a little foreign to Diablo 3, as far as how it's implemented. I loved the horadric cube and the various recipes for making things and upgrading things. I like the fact that there were no recipes to find to learn how to make something. You simply find the materials, put them in the cube, transmute*whump* and voila you either had a really cool item in your possession or you went back out into the world to find more materials. The biggest problem crafting had, in my opinion, was the need for mules to hold various items(runes, jewels, gems, gloves, amulets, armor or whatever you were crafting) In D3 it seems as though much is the same except the fact you need to find the recipes. You find items/materials and you give them to the artisan but then what? Will I have to wait for any length of time to see what my artisan has made? Will the items being crafted be random seals or set affixes? I suppose that will be dictated by the recipes. I don't like the idea of waiting to see what I have my artisan make. I want to know if I just got upgraded or if I need to go back to looking. The cube was magic! There was no wait time involved.

Pretty much everything else about the game seems to be an improvement to me. The semi-linear world with pockets of randomness sounds like it will work well. The crazy awesome amount of rune/skills possibilities. The various ways the monsters try to get to you and the need to intelligently battle them seems very interesting. I am really looking to get my hands on this game and I sincerely hope these things I've mentioned here are not as bad in game as they seem in my mind.

Ultimately what will determine if D3 is the "best game ever" as many hope it will be boils down to this. Will I replay it and replay it and replay for 10+ years? As I sit here looking at what we've got now, my answer is a tentative No. Much remains to be seen and certainly played by my own hands for me to take a solid stance but what I have seen thus far has me excited and concerned simultaneously. These are my opinions about what we know thus far and I ask that you please respect them and I will respect yours as well.

As indicated in my original post the first poster gets the account. imbacraft it is.

I don't care to break the account apart, the characters are all built very well and are geared very well. I am not giving the din gear away and I am not trading it off for forum gold. Most of the gear is personalized anyhow and no one ever wants that. If and when I decide to come back I will start from scratch again.

imbacraft use these characters well. I sincerely hope you do not sell off the gear as you will see some of it can not be found on non ladder not to mention I built the characters around the gear in most cases. I hate to see it go but I know they'll be better played. All I gotta say is you got hooked the fuck up!

email coming to you soon.

I have decided it is time for me to move on from playing D2. In that, I have decided to give my account away. I spent about 8 years building my account up to what it is today. Some of the gear is bought, some of it is found, some of it was a gift from the many players that I made friends with during my time on D2. I lost interest about a year ago and only get on to keep my characters permanent. The gear itself is too much to describe. I have a list of characters as follows.

USEast Non-Ladder:
99 Hammerdin
96 Light Sorc(vita/high block)
90 Smiter
90 WW Barb
91 Wind Druid
90 Fire Sorc(ES)
89 Orb Sorc(ES)

I was trying to give it to my friend but I think he thought I was bullshitting him, I partly was. I am serious about it this time and I can't get him to return my phone calls. I will instead post this thread and anyone that wants these characters only need to post here. I will be gone for the holiday and when I return I will get your info and send you the password in PM or to your email. Have a Merry Christmas and good luck to the first poster of this thread.

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Anything is easily absorbed but the gear required to hit that sorb for light cripples almost any dueler, beyond a barb.
Fb < Spurs , dwarf, noko...not that bad of a trade off to make FB do pretty much nothing.

Blizz<Thawings and a 160 shield and blizz is pretty much cake.

Light requires almost a full character to take the damage and especially in team duels that means your dead.

I agree they can all be absorbed. I find light the easiest to sorb. It does cripple a bit of your cast rate and damage output. Absorbing any element does that though. I prefer TGods belt over others simply because of the added strength. I do a bit less dmg and cast a tad slower but I have more life and it doesn't hamper my ability to kill people. It is the elite players that you have to worry about and let's face it, not everyone is elite. I know I certainly am not. 1 v 1 this isn't a problem as your survivability is much greater. Team duels adds a whole new level of strategy to the mix. I'm just splitting hairs here because I am certain you meant Rising Sun instead of Nokozan Relic.

Sounds like it could be fun. I'm on East so I am out. I think the rules for bad manners could include no life tap on melee characters no rejuv popping and such. I would hope that people know how to duel straight up without resorting to low tactics to gain an edge. You never know though. Sometimes people need to know all the lines so they know what not to cross.

My smiter is setup very well to duel good mannered. No tap, no sorb, no jumping. I got the charms to stack res many ways. I could use to rebuild him with a shako but he does fine as is with coa. Hope all goes well for you all on west in this tourney.

You guys are fuckin nuts. I'd pay whatever the price is to be set at upon it's release. Not a penny more. If I am gonna pay $200 for a video game it better suck my dick while I play it. That's all I'm saying.

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The average Joe > The people you know.


Sorry but thats just the sad truth.

What the fuck is that supposed to mean? I thought me and my friends are average Joes.

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That, and a cancellation of their account, is exactly why they aren't in a hurry to release it. Until that changes, don't hold your breath - if you ran a business with a $billion-a-year title coming in nice and steady, would you want to swap half of those addicts, er, I mean customers for a one-time box sale windfall of maybe $300 million in the best of all worlds?

Why not? If most of those people will pay for it and play it. They are in competition with themselves. If most of those people dislike D3 then they'll reactivate their WoW account and get back to rocking the fuck out. Blizzard wins regardless. I'll buy D3 because I have been playing Diablo for a long time and I am interested in how the story will unfold. I haven't played D2 in a year and I am anxiously awaiting D3.

Edit: Yes I think D3 will break sales records. I know many people that are grinding it out on other games and just waiting for it's release.

Light is easily absorbed. Tgods, wisp rings, stormspike stiletto or lightsabre phaseblade and if you're on a druid the spiritkeeper helm. Can't remember the amount of sorb on the PB or Stiletto but with those other items you can 74 light sorb. For dueling purposes blizz and FB/meteor are the hardest to sorb. Light is easily taken out of the equation. I fought a druid with those items and he just stood there tanking me. I think I was actually healing him as fast as I could damage him. If I had an infinity poleaxe it might have changed the story but....

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I agree, I think the ladder system was destroyed by the creation of bots.

HOW CAN YOU COMPETE AGAINST A MACHINE???

Methamphetamines is one way to compete with a computer program. Not highly suggested though.

I loved when the ladder first reset and there were no bots running yet. Just low level players in parties trying like hell to get to hell as fast as possible. Once the first bot started running the ladder became insignificant.

I'd prefer if there were different categories to see who had the highest score for various things. PvP wins, Highest level, Most value, Best reputation, Most achievements you could go on and on really. I think the xp/level ranks were lacking on D2.

I don't think it is wrong at all. It is a very cool aspect of the circle of life most don't care to witness. I, on the other hand, think it is awesome. Watching a bird of prey snatch a bird right out of the air mid-flight is spectacular to watch.

My cats bring many things to me and lay them at the front door. Moles, lizards, squirrels, rabbits, frogs, rats, birds, *cough*hamsters*cough*. It's their way of showing me that they are part of the pride. Like my own little mini lions. I love my kitties.

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Any idea on when it is coming out? I usually just play whatever seems fun at the time and don't focus on if they are good for MF or not, you know. I was going to make a hybrid assa even though I don't have a chaos claw hoping for a good hell forge!!! ww lightning immunes and traps will kill whatever else, not exactly sure on the build.

Yeah I played classic and then the expansion and some how have never played hardcore OR ladder. I don't know how it never happened, just did I guess.

Not a clue on the patch date. Truthfully I haven't played D2 in about 10 months. I'm sure I could pick it right back up again. Even if I did want to play I'd have to find my discs as I have a new PC and just never loaded D2 onto it. When I play hardcore I never sacrifice survivability for magic find. I was always used to playing in 1-2 person games in HC as there are people with hacks that tp, hostile and kill you before you even realize you were about to fight. Assassin is a good pick for a character. They are badass if played right. I got one to 68 and in hell before a 94 wind druid tppk'd my ass.