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Quote from The_Choob

I think if you had the Beta longer, didn't feel rushed to finish, and got to try all the classes, you would have enjoyed it a lot more.

That wouldn't have improved it. It's still a boring game.

Society is just unsure about what Australia has contributed to the world. So for now, no keys for you.

I found this very interesting speech about gamers and video games on TED.

http://www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_gaming_can_make_a_better_world.html

I was curious about what some of you thought of it. Are gamers a wealth of untapped human resources and skills? Could the skills learned in video games be applied to real life one day in order to improve the world?

I think at the very least, we should not underestimate how relevant video games are in our culture. I'm also willing to admit we are way behind in sociological research for gamers and video games. I think the woman in this presentation may be...a tad optimistic about what gamers can do for the world, however.

I agree that many gamers probably play games because they are more interesting and engaging than real life. But it's really hard to say what the overall impact of games on society may be as of now especially since the video gaming industry is changing so rapidly and the demographics of gamers is becoming more counter-intuitive. At any rate, this lady presents some really interesting ideas that I think are worth considering.

Also I gotta admit, there are plenty of times in real life where I cited something I've done in a game as a possible solution toward something I might have done in real life. Not always directly so, but I've at least drawn on experiences I've had from games to influence my decision making processes.

Co-op is only fun if you're playing with people you know personally or at least somewhat well over the internet. I've been playing with strangers on the Bnet server and they typically never talk or have boring personalities and senses of humor.

Pfft, well that's YOUR opinion!

Quote from Robiwan

You know, trolling and bad feelings aside, I for one am no longer looking forward *as much* after a 5 hour beta experience.

Blizzard are really crap at either making games or hiring people. Because more than one person who has played beta with me has remarked that they cannot believe it took four years to make.

I defended by saying its just a beta... We'll see.
And no release date? I'm starting to view blizzard as that bully/jock at school.

That's what I've been getting at. Like Blizzard has crossed the line of being devoted to quality to just being inept.

I'm all for taking the time to make a game right, but then if you're so unsure of what you're doing and you have to go back and change things again, then lighten up on the goddamn marketing and PR and just be developers. Be just that for awhile. Show us your professionalism.

Instead it really just feels like...I know what it feels like! It feels like people in D2 trading games that would show you their anni or torch and start telling you they're willing to trade for it. So you tell them what runes you got or whatever, you start to want the item and you start to put your heart into the negotiations. You figure after all this deliberation that something is gonna come out of it. But instead the guy with the item you want is like, nah, I'll just keep it for myself, but it was nice of you to get to see it, right? Then he leaves the game.

So were you offering that pally torch or weren't you? Either fucking deal or don't. Quit fishing for praise from the public for your new artwork or your act 3 screenshots or your cinematics. Which by the way I completely do not understand why they would release that. The opening cinematic, at least for those of us into the stories of games, is that part you sit down for the first time to watch after the Blizzard logo. You get blown away by something you've seen in its entirety for the first time and then are you so ready, so mentally committed to the game at this point.

And don't just tell me I don't have to watch the cinematic (I haven't) because that's not the point here. The point is is Blizzard has become too confident and self-conscious at the same time. They are too confident because they abuse the goodwill of many fans. They are self-conscious because they constantly need praise for every incremental step of the game development instead of just letting us be satisfied with a finished product in its entirety. Their hubris has just totally changed them as developers. They dangle shit in front of the fans with this sleazy, yeah you know you want this sort of attitude.

Will the game be awesome when it comes out. Sure it will. But will it be so awesome that everything I just described above will seem totally justifiable in the end? Only if you're a tool who thinks Blizzard can do no wrong and that they've never shown contempt for their fans(face it guys, they do all the time).

Is anyone familiar with the story of Daikatana? Has anyone ever heard the marketing phrase, "John Romero's about to make you his bitch"? Well, Blizzard couldn't make a game as awful as Daikatana if they tried. But there are other factors that can make you not enjoy a game. One of those factors is the journey you took to get there. They announced D3 in June of 2008...2008. And they've jerked fans around for so long with vague answers about its release. Oh but it's okay because Blizzard has always stated that it's done when it's done. Fair enough. So then get it done and shut the hell up! Turn down your marketing machine for just a second and stop trying to distract people away from your ineptitude and lack of consensus and cohesion as developers by releasing all your little updates and your actual in game cinematics for god's sakes. Is nothing sacred? Is the excuse that there are still plenty of surprises enough to show the fucking opening cinematic of the game?

All this being jerked around by Blizzard is going to distract me a bit when I'm actually playing the game. Like Jay Wilson is going to be breathing down my neck and whispering in my ear, "It's good, right? Oh yes, it's so fucking good isn't it?" And I'm like, gyaaaah! Stop rubbing your greasy image all over this game, Jay Wilson! Stop making me your bitch! Ayyyyy!

Quote from Moxx

What a sausagefest.

Play the game or get the fuck out.

1/10

Hey guys, what minor D3 news can we release to the public this week to try and get people to keep caring about the game?

Derrrr, let's talk about Runestones.....

Come on, hype machine! *kick* Work better, dammit!

Man, I got a pretty high end PC that can easily max out Skyrim's settings, and still I can understand people wanting to play this game on a console. Lousy PC snobs.

Yeah, I totally prefer to play this game on a PC, but I've played games for years on the 360 and it's a great system.

I'm deleting you again.

Quote from "Seth" »

I think it was just more of a childish annoyance with positive rep spamming...

It was merely an annoyance up to a point, but they've surpassed that threshold. The positive is being abused just as much as the negative, and the ones who Dae mentioned above are some of the biggest culprits in both directions.

Is there a setting that would make it possible for us to see the post for which rep was given? That would be one thing we could use to, at least begin to, assess if a particular rep point was justified.
And possibly a setting to allow users to report rep abuse, in the same fashion they can report posts, visitor messages, and PMs? We can scan the rep comments if we see conversation about it, but giving the users the ability to report it with a click would help the process (as long as we established limits in the rule).
We have certain criteria for what constitutes a deletable spam post; we should be able to establish a baseline for rep, as well, aye?.

i did.. before i used d2 median and was killed by traps in 1 shot =s

If you want to know approximately how Diablo 2 would play as a turn based system, try playing Dofus. It's a nice MMORPG that has perhaps around 20 (1%) levels out of 200 (100%) of free farm- and spam-bot infested, but still somewhat playable content and $6 monthly subscription to the rest of the game.

It has quite interesting 2D Flash graphics and style. Very artistic in my opinion, and they're about to be updated to be even more detailed. In my opinion, its graphics and style is one of the two most important and impressive things about it. If you'll like them, you'll love them, but if not, then it's just not for you. The other thing is its unique, well designed and balanced set of 12 classes. You won't be able to decide which to choose. ((((( Luckily you can run multiple clients. Some people run 2, 4, some even 8 clients at the same time (that's 6$ x8 for all 8 clients per month). In fact, I think most players above level 100 are subscribed to 2 accounts. Unfortunately, the game itself doesn't support this kind of play, but also doesn't discourage it, so you have to switch between windows, or have two windows open next to each other and do every single action twice. It is still in your interest to run multiple clients, as you'll win battles more often, faster, and get better loot. etc., etc., etc. )))))

The developers also created a TV series based on the game: Wakfu.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oaqxoSlH1w&feature=PlayList&p=48F70E5E0F8688A2&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=2 Very high quality, as you'll immediately notice.

It's really too bad that it's not a single player game, where the pace could be much faster, where all the highly inspired features of the game could come together much more elegantly, where even a weak storyline would seem epic in conjunction with its features and its art style, and where you could experience the game in greater concentrations than you would in the watered down, insulting, stupid MMORPG play.

It's really a sad story. That's why Diablo franchise is great, as it offers equally well inspired style, single player experience (which is still a little bit intruded upon by the multiplayer), excellent design in all other aspects of the game.

can be found from the arreat summit crafting page:

Hit Power Amulet
RECIPE:
Magic Amulet
Thul Rune
Perfect Sapphire
Any Jewel

GRANTS
Hit Causes Monster To Flee (3-11)%
5% Chance To Cast Level 4 Frost Nova When Struck
Attacker Takes Damage of (3-10)
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Blood Amulet
RECIPE:
Magic Amulet
Amn Rune
Perfect Ruby
Any Jewel

GRANTS
5-10% Faster Run/Walk
(1-4)% Life Stolen Per Hit
+(10-20) To Life
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Caster Amulet
RECIPE:
Magic Amulet
Ral Rune
Perfect Amethyst
Any Jewel

GRANTS
(5-10)% Faster Cast Rate
Regenerate Mana (4-10)%
+ (10-20) To Mana
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Safety Amulet
RECIPE:
Magic Amulet
Thul Rune
Perfect Emerald
Any Jewel

GRANTS
+ (1-10)% Increased Chance Of Blocking
Magic Damage Reduced By (1-2)
Damage Reduced By (1-4)

So, if I were to check your rep history, I wouldn't see any points spammed to you, artificially inflating your rep?

Based on what Phrozen said earlier today, I think that is what I would see. In which case, the negative point(s) you received that dropped you back to one box merely off-set some of the meaningless spam points you've received.

So, I think you're right about Karma, but not in the way you intended.

Quote from "Sathrax" »

Alright for one, I'm not making shit up lol, u never stated that it was ur opinion, u said it as if it was a fact, not an opinion, that's the problem.

Point out for me where I apparently said that my opinion is a global fact.

And yes I do realize that u could mean that

That I could mean that?
Well, judging by how I said I DO mean that, I'd say it's a safe bet that yes, indeed I do mean that.

however, forgive me for giving MY opinion, but it sounds very much like you're biased against XL. How long have u actually played XL before?

Quite some time, I played it before I started playing ES, decided it wasn't my cup o' tea, and moved on to ES.

Also, how do you play D2 anyway? What do you wish to gain from it?

Usually a melee character, speed is a must.

.. I wish to gain a greater understanding of myself, and of life in general.

*facepalms*

What the hell would I want to gain from D2?
What IS there to gain aside from arthritis?
This is a game, not philosophy.

and what makes u feel that that the differences in Eastern sun are BETTER than those of median?

Because I like it better?

I mean it IS ur opinion and that's fine, but the 2 mods aren't even close to similar.

Thats... my fucking.... point.

Eastern sun is obviously for changing the entire gameplay of D2 all the way through. Median XL, however, was obviously made for the purpose of more specific challenge (uberquests) and a totally new approach to characters.

Exactly, I enjoy the new gameplay added by ES, instead of the shiny new uberquests offered by MXL. It's just new shit to kill, yippee.

You can't fairly choose which of the 2 is better because the purposes of both are different. All you can really do is decide which one u prefer to play because of ur own expectations of D2

*rages*

Yes, I CAN choose which one is better, because I can choose which one i prefer to play because of my own expectations of D2.

Quote from "zhuge" »

meh zhar do me a effing favor

wait to temp gets through mxl then he will introduce you to it lol

the ubers are actually worth it

Haha, I'll give it another try I guess :(.

Seriously though, this will be round 3, it's not looking good.

Well now, I'm surprised. I was like, "WHat??!" But I kind of like the look of the Monk. I like Blizzard, they were fooling everyone who thought the new class to be revealed was going to be the Ranger class.

And then I go onto this thread and I find more haterz :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykxqzKH5BIc

Guys, seriously. Blizzard is doing the best job of any game company taking into consideration what you have to say. But they will be deterred from listening if all you have to do is whine and complain. Grow up! You don't get everything in life.

Monk not creative enough? Lame? Your entire life is lame. You sit on a computer checking the forum every day for more information on the game that you will buy multiple copies of and play non stop. However, you completely troll, complain, and even THREATEN to not buy the game! Hah. You need to work on your bluffing skills...

All of us will buy the game. It's the best out there. One class won't make that big of a deal. I HIGHLY doubt you will hate all of the classes. And you know what? In the expansion you get TWO more classes.

Grow up, Quit your whining, and enjoy the information like everyone else, instead of your constant, pointless, criticism.

I'm a big fan of luck-of-the-draw effects - unpredictable things that can positively or negatively affect a certain spell randomly. Yeah, I could really like a "Gambit" rune : D

Quote from "scyberdragon" »

MIRROR RUNE: creates a mirror image of yourself behnd you. Casting the same spell but backwards. Essentially allows you to cast your spell both in front and behind you.

I just loved it !