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For the most part, I've gone along with the new rules regarding spam, and how previous threads that were spam threads are now in the off topic section. But I still have some concerns and questions that I feel remain unresolved and unanswered and I wanted to start a new conversation about this.

First of all, the declaration regarding spam, "Spam only includes advertising and nonsensical combinations of letters and words now.

Posts that were previously considered spam such as "Lol. Yup", "I agree.", "No, I don't think so." are allowed now.

As long as it's in some form relevant to the topic it is not Spam anymore.


So declareth DoranM and so shall it be."

What bothers me about this is my moderator review came in recently to which I scored only average due to a lack of moderator actions in the past month. Granted, for unrelated reasons I have done a bit less moderating recently, but at the same time I believe I've lost points due to not moderating posts that I otherwise would have had we not had this change in rules regarding spam. A lot of what I did before was get rid of posts that were one word posts or sentence fragments. Cause that's what a lot of people still do and now I'm supposed to leave that stuff alone. I was told the expectations for the moderators would be adjusted to reflect this new lax attitude toward spam, but has it really in light of my moderator review?

The other concern I have is regarding this part of the declaration, " As long as it's in some form relevant to the topic it is not Spam anymore..." in relation to this particular thread.

Just what is the topic of this thread? How is anything in this thread relevant to its supposed topic? I mean, it's a clever loophole to call it the ultimate random thread, isn't it? It's like how can I moderate it for spam when not only is one word responses okay, but so is going completely off topic because the title implies the topic is to go off topic?

And since we allowed all the threads previously under the old Spam section to go into the off topic section and thus allow posts in that section to be retroactively counted, isn't that a little unfair? It's hard for me to argue this point with my own high post count without it seeming like a personal issue for me. But I suppose it did irk me that before consolidating the spam threads into the off topics ones, my 11,000 post count went up only by 800 while other members' post counts went up by several thousand. If you want to allow people to spam and get posts and credibility for it, that's fine, but can I at least delete some of the threads that were previously in spam so as to keep spam posts being retroactively counted?

They can still start another chat thread (even though I think we should just have an actual live chat room) and call it whatever they like, but I want to get rid of The Ultimate Random thread. People are still free to chat and spam all they want, and if that's really what's important to them then they shouldn't be concerned about what posts they lost after that thread being deleted because most of them were retroactively counted in the first place and they never expected them in the beginning to count toward anything.

Is any of this sounding reasonable or am I just being a whiny bitch to no end? Cause if that's the case, I suppose I really do have to let it all go and just enjoy my time here a lot less than I used to. But if anyone can respond to some of these questions and concerns I would greatly appreciate it. I hope I articulated all this well enough cause I realize it probably sounds more angry than it actually is. I'm just so confounded about some of these changes lately.

Upward AND onward.

Got one long word to describe this movie: dummmmmmmmmmmb.

Holy crap, was this movie dumb. Not that I expected anything good from it. I knew it would totally suck balls. But wow.....I don't even really go to movies anymore because theaters are terrible places to see movies. There are few people I know personally that I would actually enjoy watching movies with. Why would I want to sit in a large room with people who are annoying and eat their "buttered" popcorn that smells like fried piss.

Um anyway, so this movie....neutrinos are turning the Earth's crust into liquid apparently and the Sun just had it's biggest ever solar flare which apparently seems to occur every so many hundreds of thousands of years. For some reason the solar flare doesn't kill everyone off right away from the radiation or heat, but instead gradually melts the planet's crust. Oh and the alignment of all the planets apparently has something to do with it as well I guess.

So the world is gonna end and there's gonna be lots of swelling dramatic music. If you are a fan of Hollywood cliches this is the movie for you. Some of my favorites were lines like, "Mr. President, have to go. We're out of time." And the President says, "Make the time!" That's physically impossible to make time. Or you know when there is a cliff that someone might have fallen off of? So the people in the plane are like, "He's gone! We have to go..." But then it shows the cliff for some reason all by itself. I don't suppose they're just showing that cliff to remind the audience how that character just died, are they? Oh of course not, they're showing the cliff's edge just so we can see a hand reach up and grab onto it, showing us that character is in fact not dead. Cause the only way Hollywood knows how to reassure the audience that the guy who went off the cliff did not actually die is to just show the edge of the cliff by itself and then show a hand grab onto it from below.

So everyone is trying to get to China cause that's where they built these huge fuck off boats that everyone wants to get on cause when everything is flooded, they will survive on the ships until they can find land. So they talk about having a sustainable gene pool and having the best minds survive and all that. I thought arguing for the sustainable gene pool was funny because at the same time they are loading giraffes, hippos, and elephants onto this "ark". They seriously are doing this. This is stupid for too many reasons. First of all, why is it necessary to preserve these wild African animals? If you're gonna stock a bunch of animals on your boat, why not just do the ones that are food? Put pigs, cows, sheep, and chickens on the boat. Was there plan to make these safari animals survive in the new society? For what purpose? And you can't just stick a couple animals in a place and expect them to make babies. Wild animals breed under very particular conditions that involve climate and habitat, some even elevation.

With Noah, we can forgive him for being so stupid for a couple reasons. One was because he thought God talked to him, telling him to make a boat. Second because he could've sworn he heard God tell him two put two of each animal on this boat so the species could survive. If I was writing that movie, I would try to downplay the similarities of the story to Noah's Ark as much as possible. But it actually showed these big helicopters carrying elephants in a harness through the Himalayan Mountains. Can you imagine that. And this was when they all knew a big tidal wave would be hitting in a day or so. It's like some kind of priority to get these animals on the boat? What excuse did these scientists have for being so stupid?

Oh, and no stupid Hollywood movie would be complete without romantic subplots. Cause apparently when the world is ending we still give a shit that people want to be romantic and kiss each other rather than just fuck each other like monkeys because the world is about to end. The main character is divorced and you suspect him and his ex-wife will get back together after some nice moments of apocalyptic bonding. But we can't let them get back together before tragically killing her new husband. Because if they just got back together with the new husband still alive than I might think they're dicks and I'll be a confused audience member.

Oh and this movie also takes place in an alternate universe where tires can never go flat. Cars can jump over great distances and heights and not even lose a hubcap. Do you have any idea what the odds are wrecking your car in Los Angeles just by running a red light? But this guy drives through plenty while dodging cars, driving through collapsed buildings, and raping the laws of physics. All the while never having a blowout.

And what was up with that Russian pilot? That was like the fakest most hackneyed Russian accent I ever heard. Anyway, I hated this movie. It sucked. There wasn't one thing I liked about it. And even the special effects were really boring which was why most of you went to see this movie: the special effects.

Oh yeah, and how come in Hollywood movies whenever the need arises, a person can transform into an expert swimmer who can hold their breath for like five minutes at a time? Even little kids in Hollywood movies all have this super power.

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Again, I'm not saying this isn't an interesting read but does it really merit being frontpage material?

Sure does. I grow weary of updates on just Diablo 3. Many Diablo fans are interested in many aspects of the franchise and not just what new minor update is reported on about Diablo 3. And this is isn't just filler material either until huge updates are released to the public. Many people have wondered anyway what Uelman is up to these days and whether he would have anything to do with the D3 soundtrack so it's good reading no matter how you look at it.

You're shifty. You hack.

You've done this before; you lose interest, then regain interest, then lose it again, all the while offering your account to people. I'm never gonna take your account in fear of getting banned for it. And I'm not even sure I'm gonna try to convince you to dismantle all your cities and ship all extra resources to us cause that would take more effort on your part than you'd be willing to give.

Just promise me this time that if you quit, you quit for good. You're more fickle than a teenage girl and every time people whine about wanting to quit it makes me sad about still playing. Which is crazy, cause I still love playing. Things are so fascinating lately in Eta and Kappa. And when the time is right in Gamma, I'll make some big moves to piss off some very old enemies. But as for you, either just send us all your shit or delete your account right now.

Anyone ever notice this about the portal in the Durance?



If you move around, you can get that black line to disappear. I always wondered all these years if it was just my disc or something that made it appear that way. And it's also such a mundane little detail, I figured maybe people see it all the time but just don't care to bring it up. I always found it amusing and slightly perturbing.

I can understand not feeling like a certain name represents you anymore. My early computer names were Shipgate and Maabus. And now I don't really like those anymore. However, if you change your name I'll totally forget you, man!

1. What NPC in Act 3 has class specific intro for Necromancer?
Gheed
2. What is the name of the amulet you receive after completing the Halls of the Blind quest in Diablo 1?
IDK
3. What type of magic is used to create the protective ward that surrounds Harrogath?
Ancient Magic?
4. How much gold did it cost just to look at Wirt's item for sale?
200?
5. What is the clan name of Bartuc and Horazon?
IDK
6. What clan does Ormus most likely come from?
A magi clan?
7. What does the Assassin say upon first entering Blood Moor?
"They will never see me coming!"
8. Name all quest specific items in Act III (There's quite a few when you think about it).
Brain, Heart, Eye, Golden Bird, Jade Figurine, Gibin blade, Kahleem's Flail, Kahleem's Will and I dont know if Mephisto's soul stone counts.
9. What are the two possible lines Andariel says upon approaching you?
Oh shit...never paid attention...um "Evil will..." IDK
10. Name each NPC in every act that you use for gambling.
Act 1-Gheed
Act 2-Elsix
Act 3-Alkor
Act 4-um...shit...jamel?
Act 5-Nihlathak

I agree. People have said they wouldn't announce two major projects so close together, and that is true, but only if you look in a past perspective. Blizzard has stated publically that they need to step up production to continue the growth WoW brought in. As the two games are on very different markets, and each game has a mostly loyal fanbase, they would not lose many customers to either, and gain in the long run. Most fall into the category of getting both regardless eventually anyway, or those that are only interested in one franchise. If they wait much longer, the hype for D2 would dwindle more, and it would have been longer since other D2 vets quit, making it less likely they would purchase D3.

Well, wasn't there that one side quest in the first Diablo where you meet that Hell Knight who was once an angel? I think he was anyway. But anyway, you're supposed to kill someone then come back and he asks you to kill him or something and you get that cool Hell Knight helm? Someone help me fill in the gaps here.

you talking about Lachdanan. the former captain of the guard of King Leoric.

he wants you to get him an elixir from the next level and bring it back to him so it can die. then he gives you the cool helm.

Izual is an obvious example of this anyway. I'm still inconclusive toward whether Inarius is considered that. He just seems bad for both Heaven and Hell.

not really sure whats up with Inarius. his prison does show up on the map of sanctuary, but we havent been there yet. so he is still in his prison of mirrors as far as i can tell.

taken from the diablo manual

Even the Seraphim are not immune to the corruption of the Dark Lords. One such angel, Inarius, was proud of his beauty and boasted loudly of his purity and worth. His thoughts became so clouded that he believed himself to be above both Angel and Demon, and he left the High Heavens to form his own dominion. He constructed a great cathedral of mirrored glass and crystal, and followers flocked to him, drawn by his numinous charm and wealth. Once Inarius had gathered a sizable army, he decided to prove his power. Inarius first laid siege to an infernal temple devoted to the worship of Mephisto, but made the foolish mistake of overestimating his prowess. The armies of Inarius laid waste to the temple and killed the dark monks that dwelled within. The Three Evils had considered the vain warrior a mere nuisance and amusement until this time, but this was an insult that they could not bear.

Mephisto himself is said to have appeared at the cathedral of Inarius. He laid waste to the church and the surrounding countryside. The Lord of Hatred took the proud archangel and His follower’s captive. He bound Inarius with tremendous chains and slowly tore the wings from the back of the angel. Great barbed hooks were then used to stretch out the once glowing skin and his features were distorted by vile powers. Many of the followers of Inarius were given as gifts to Baal and Diablo, but the rest were molded to match the bloated image of the now crippled angel. To this day, Inarius is said to be trapped in Hell within a chamber of mirrors, his eyelids torn from his face as he is forced to gaze upon his misshapen form for all eternity. His misguided followers now serve as Hell’s taskmasters, taking the anguish of their lost glory out upon the bodies of others.

These grotesque demons have considerable brawn hidden beneath their layers of greasy flab. Do not underestimate their strength or their intelligence for crossing swords with them is ill advised. You will be far better served to combat them with ranged weapons or magic.

I've considered the possibility that since Baal's Soulstone was first damaged before they originally imprisoned him in it, with Tal Rasha, that perhaps the stone was never capable of completely containing him, and thus his essence managed to escape the bounds of it anyway.

Cause the only reason they were able to use the compromised stone, was because Tal Rasha assisted in containing him. However, this is another fine point of the story that escapes me: it seems that for one Prime Evils to exist in a physical form, they need a human host, otherwise they exist merely as the stones (remember in the first Diablo how he was confined to his and that's why he lured Prince Albrecht into the labryinth), although even without a host body they can still do harm. But when joined with someone, then they can really do some damage.

i think there is a bit of that diablo 1 ignorance concerning Baal's soulstone. it was broken, so a partial vessel needed to be found to replace the missing half. Tal Rasha was chosen, as the most power mage surely he could contain the beast within. much like how the warrior thought himself strong enough to contain the essence of diablo.

So why didn't the Horadrim originally take the Soulstone and just bury it in the tomb. One might assume it was because they couldn't take the chance of who's possession it might fall into. But if that was really their reason, then why would they chance putting Baal's soulstone in the most powerful mortal mage at the time? And obviously, the story addresses the arrogance of the Horadrim at the time assuming that they could pull it off. But why didn't Tyrael foresee that risk?

yes i dont think they would want to hide the stones in obvious places. one was hidden in an ancient city, one hidden in the vast desert amoung 7 tombs, the other hidden beneath a holy church. and there locations kept by a secret order.

I think the Horadrims big mistake is underestimating the extent of the power of the three. Diablo was able to corrupt the mind of an arch bishop then later the body and mind of the young prince and the unnamed warrior, baal corrupted the body and mind of the most powerful mage in the world, and Mephisto corrupted body and mind of the head of the Order of the Zakarum. and all with being trapped inside soulstones.

not sure if Tyrael posesses far sight, if he did, i dont think he would have told marius to tkae the stone, and destroy it knowing full well that marius wouldnt do it?

I suppose it was because Tyrael was unaware of Izual's treachery and did not know then that the Soulstones were corrupted. I think it would be interesting to read some more literature about the meeting between Izual and the Prime Evils. Because I couldn't understand really Izual's motivation for defecting the way he did.

yes how did Izual become corrupt and tell the Prime Evils the secrets of the soulstones? did he trade for something. often one make a deal with the devil, and well as Diablo, Mephisto and Baal are all embodiments of Lucifer so to speak, i dont see this concept being out of the question.

but it would be nice to know the exact reasoning. does he alude to anything in his dialogues after you defeat him? i recall him saying it was he who told the prime evils of the nature of the soulstones. but i dont recall anything of his reasoning for doing so.