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    posted a message on Any News for Diablo 3........Ever?

    Why blizz should feel bad? They made some money on D3 and infinitely more on Overwatch and they are constantly making money on WoW and Hearthstone. They are fine. "Activision Blizzard" is not the same people who made our colorful memories of D2. They don't fucking care about anything but money. They can't, they have supervisors and shareholders who tell them what to do and who expect $$ to be made. Why do you think they released a fucking class as a DLC you have to buy? Google GGG. It's a private company. They can do whatever the fuck they want. And they probably like what they do, as people working on D2 presumably did. They don't have shareholders telling them what to do.

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    posted a message on Boters paradise D3
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    Quote from Emmo»

    Not just the top Crusader. Top 3 monks (currently) are bots with nearly 100% playtime. Top Necro is a bot, and a few others lower down are too. Pretty much every member of ZD clan on Europe are bots too.


    The leaderboards are full of them. Thankfully, I couldn't care less about the leaderboards so they don't bother me. It's more funny than anything else that these people think others won't notice. Their playtime is public knowledge.



    Because that's so much worse than having leaderboards topped by human bots like gabynator in his prime non-botting time with 80% playtime on 2 hours daily sleep. What do you value more, fellow humans or statistics table in video game?

    Why are you so against people playing more than you? I honestly don't understand how you can say botting is the same as someone playing a lot. Those are Apples and Oranges.
    How are they different? One ruins your health and life and the other one doesn't. Both are means of farming virtual resources in virtual world.
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    posted a message on Boters paradise D3
    Quote from Emmo»

    Not just the top Crusader. Top 3 monks (currently) are bots with nearly 100% playtime. Top Necro is a bot, and a few others lower down are too. Pretty much every member of ZD clan on Europe are bots too.


    The leaderboards are full of them. Thankfully, I couldn't care less about the leaderboards so they don't bother me. It's more funny than anything else that these people think others won't notice. Their playtime is public knowledge.

    Because that's so much worse than having leaderboards topped by human bots like gabynator in his prime non-botting time with 80% playtime on 2 hours daily sleep. What do you value more, fellow humans or statistics table in video game?
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    posted a message on Boters paradise D3
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    If you're pro bot, then you're "Gaming Ethics" are bad. For the legit players, bots are a genuine and real concern to fair play, and that is a problem the staff of D3 need to address.









    But blizzard just made a game for people concerned about fair play and competition. Overwatch - no bots there. Absolute 0. Amazing isn't it? It's possible to make a game where brainless farm is not the way of progressing! I'm not pro bot, I'm pro players. Everybody should be allowed to play the way they want AS LONG AS THEY DON'T AFFECT THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHER PLAYERS. I could install d2 right now and start botting on my offline local account. Do you have anything against that?


    I think there is a solution for non season. Remove leaderboards. DONE. What's the point of leaderboards on non season? To see who is the biggest loser? Who is the closest to human bot? That is insulting and objectifying players, measuring them by the "hours of grind" stick. Makes me wanna puke. Don't you see that there is something wrong with the situation where even the greatest and most skilled player is outclassed by bunch of scripts in the long run?







    There are bots in Overwatch. Aim bots, a quick google searched confirmed that.


    Removing leaderboards from non season is an absolutely terrible idea in my opinion. If players want to compete, now they are forced to leave their character and play season. How can you call people losers for competing on non season ladder, that's just where they prefer to play, some people don't like to start over...


    You say that people who play a lot and are high on the leaderboards is insulting and objectifying players? lol wut? That's like saying it's insulting that people who spend more time at the gym have better bodies. Oh man F that loser who spends more hours in the gym than me, how dare he have bigger muscles, makes me wanna puke!


    If you're "pro player" then why do you insult people who have high paragon on non season, and call them losers? You don't seem like you're "pro players", it seems that you feel anyone who plays more than you, and takes D3 serious is wrong, and shouldn't care about leaderboards. Sorry, but it's not up to you how someone should have fun in a game.




    I don't know why you mention gym, nobody is putting guys on the leaderboards based on how buff they are. There are some competitions and surely enough, you don't have chance without steroids, just like you don't have chance in d3 without bot. Same thing - just remove the competition if it's making more harm than good.


    So take out part of the game that has been here since seasons started? Let's use our noggin here. How about instead of tearing parts of the game out that give players long term incentive to play, lets get rid of the cheaters, and the programs used to cheat with. How can your ideas be to remove features from the entire game that have been here for years? What is your mentality to think that is even remotely a good idea? Bottom line is it's on blizzard to rid the game of bots. I doubt that is a high priority for them right now, since D3 is basically in maintenance mode.

    I'm not for removing anything. Just make leaderboards on non season private. Issue of botting can't and won't be solved. Fighting bots is like fighting windmills. You just can't win. Bots will exist and will be used as long as there are people interested in using and buying them. And that is as long as there will be incentive to play non-stop in a way that impacts the other players. I'm not a fan of band-aid solutions.

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    posted a message on Boters paradise D3
    Quote from Barly»

    Quote from Shiroiro»

    Quote from Barly

    If you're pro bot, then you're "Gaming Ethics" are bad. For the legit players, bots are a genuine and real concern to fair play, and that is a problem the staff of D3 need to address.






    But blizzard just made a game for people concerned about fair play and competition. Overwatch - no bots there. Absolute 0. Amazing isn't it? It's possible to make a game where brainless farm is not the way of progressing! I'm not pro bot, I'm pro players. Everybody should be allowed to play the way they want AS LONG AS THEY DON'T AFFECT THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHER PLAYERS. I could install d2 right now and start botting on my offline local account. Do you have anything against that?


    I think there is a solution for non season. Remove leaderboards. DONE. What's the point of leaderboards on non season? To see who is the biggest loser? Who is the closest to human bot? That is insulting and objectifying players, measuring them by the "hours of grind" stick. Makes me wanna puke. Don't you see that there is something wrong with the situation where even the greatest and most skilled player is outclassed by bunch of scripts in the long run?




    There are bots in Overwatch. Aim bots, a quick google searched confirmed that.


    Removing leaderboards from non season is an absolutely terrible idea in my opinion. If players want to compete, now they are forced to leave their character and play season. How can you call people losers for competing on non season ladder, that's just where they prefer to play, some people don't like to start over...


    You say that people who play a lot and are high on the leaderboards is insulting and objectifying players? lol wut? That's like saying it's insulting that people who spend more time at the gym have better bodies. Oh man F that loser who spends more hours in the gym than me, how dare he have bigger muscles, makes me wanna puke!


    If you're "pro player" then why do you insult people who have high paragon on non season, and call them losers? You don't seem like you're "pro players", it seems that you feel anyone who plays more than you, and takes D3 serious is wrong, and shouldn't care about leaderboards. Sorry, but it's not up to you how someone should have fun in a game.

    I don't know why you mention gym, nobody is putting guys on the leaderboards based on how buff they are. There are some competitions and surely enough, you don't have chance without steroids, just like you don't have chance in d3 without bot. Same thing - just remove the competition if it's making more harm than good.
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    posted a message on Diablo Fan Art - Necromancer

    Whoah, this is wicked!

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    posted a message on Boters paradise D3

    AnDongNi #4 carpet bombing with them red pills. Good stuff.

    It's #6 actually.

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    posted a message on Boters paradise D3
    Quote from Barly

    If you're pro bot, then you're "Gaming Ethics" are bad. For the legit players, bots are a genuine and real concern to fair play, and that is a problem the staff of D3 need to address.

    But blizzard just made a game for people concerned about fair play and competition. Overwatch - no bots there. Absolute 0. Amazing isn't it? It's possible to make a game where brainless farm is not the way of progressing! I'm not pro bot, I'm pro players. Everybody should be allowed to play the way they want AS LONG AS THEY DON'T AFFECT THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHER PLAYERS. I could install d2 right now and start botting on my offline local account. Do you have anything against that?


    I think there is a solution for non season. Remove leaderboards. DONE. What's the point of leaderboards on non season? To see who is the biggest loser? Who is the closest to human bot? That is insulting and objectifying players, measuring them by the "hours of grind" stick. Makes me wanna puke. Don't you see that there is something wrong with the situation where even the greatest and most skilled player is outclassed by bunch of scripts in the long run?

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    posted a message on Boters paradise D3

    Alternatively, instead of capping online hours it could be that when player reaches paragon cap on season his inventory gets locked. It would be interesting to see people coming up with ways to earn lowest amount of exp in order to have the most time to get better gear. Bonus XP wells would be making you earn less XP instead of more although 30% less XP translating into 30% (or 42,8%, math is hard) more time would be a little bit too OP. Probably more tweaking would be required because it could turn out that this promotes some extremely boring things, like running T1 all day etc.


    Quote from 3lric»

    the solution is: hardcap on seasonal paragon (e.g.paragon 2000). Its as simple as that.


    Id like to see them cutting some layers of RNG out of the competition. I'd suggested to my Clanmates last season, that it would be good for the game if they cut out all Pylons from GR's, so nobody need to fish for that Rift-Conduit + Guardian-Power GR.

    But thats another Topic.

    Definitely. Pylons could be removed just from the highest GR you've unlocked so you could still have that bit of harmless RNG when it's not vital to the competition.
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    posted a message on Boters paradise D3

    Oh come on now, be serious, you don't have chance on non season anyways. These will always be some no life, no job, mom's basement kinda guy playing 22h a day that will beat you no matter what.


    I mean you can't fix it 100% like season but you can still improve it, like capping paragon and gem levels in GRs. There could also be an option to do GRs for personal records where paragons would be uncapped but it wouldn't go on leaderboards.

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    posted a message on Boters paradise D3

    At first glance capping online hours seems ridiculous but it is great solution! It would destroy any chances of bot users as bots always have sub-optimal performance. Makes account sharing pointless. And gives everyone equal chances, no matter whether they play 5 or 22 hours a day. After reaching cap inventory would get locked (just like inside of GR), and any earned exp would go to non season. You could go GRs or instantly retire your character to non season and try again. It's not perfectly elegant solution but it solves all problems. With paragon/exp/gems locked bots could still farm primal items. Time constraint would make the competition all about skill and luck - what's really important. Leave brainless grind for the non-season. Nobody cares about bots there.

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    posted a message on Boters paradise D3

    Just cap paragons at 800 in GRs. What is the point of the whole "competition"? To see who is the best/luckiest player or who is the best human bot?

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    posted a message on Boters paradise D3
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    Who cares? How does that even affect you? Lags are not dependent on level of GR or bots, there is like 1k people playing D3. Bots are not accumulating wealth like in Path of Exile. They do not interact with you in any way. Who joins public games? Seriously? Maybe just ask in chat? They will be higher than you in leaderboards? WHO CARES? There is no prize for your rank. Grinding paragons is not a task for thinking human, it's an insult to human intellect. Are you surprised that people do not want to commit hundreds of hours to empty brain-dead activity? It's not D2 where bots ruin the economy. Man, just deal with it. Give ONE real tangible reason against botting besides TOS. If devs are ok with it there is no reason for you to cry about it.


    Those who are competitive cares, besides cheating is cheating..
    It ruins the game for others who fairly is trying to get better and playing.
    Oh no, number next to your name on the leaderboards is lower, DIABLO 3 EXPERIENCE RUINED! BUSTED!
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    posted a message on Boters paradise D3

    You are not going to defeat bots EVER. D3 is the closest h&s to resolve that issue completely, once and for all. With my solution there is simply no incentive to bot and even if someone still wants to bot he would affect only his experience of the game so it would not even matter. Banwaves are just temporary. New bots will arrive sooner or later. With paragon capped in grifts nobody will even have to waste time or resources dealing with bots simply because they won't matter anymore. This is not PoE. This is simple, self found casual h&s with no economy. Just get rid of the incentive for botting. What's so hard or outraging about that? What's so bad about not having to grind for hundreds of hours in order to just PARTICIPATE in the "pushing gr leaderboards" experience. What's so bad about bots or people who literally hire slaves to grind not having any advantages?

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    posted a message on Boters paradise D3

    I didn't said you shouldn't push. I listed possible solution to dealing with that severe disadvantage. Restrict paragons and/or gear in GRs. Healthy competition is one thing, grindfest is quite another. Botters can bot, they won't push your leaderboard numbers around and people who want to compete will be finally able to do so and have fair chance without spendning mind numbing amount of time doing brainless gring. Everyone would end up happy. Banning is not a solution. Just remove the incentive. Brilliant, problem solved.

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