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    posted a message on Skull Grasp is now..............
    Quote from Helycon»


    Stop raging and being childish. Fair enough, WW needs support items to really shine and you just mentioned yourself other specs do too. The fact that WW is under performing is evident and it could use a buff on the set itself. In S4, WW was the only set that worked well and worked just fine for Solo play.
    There are other specs not doing too great at T10 quickly as well, one of them actually being Delsere' s, the top Wizard spec for S5. There will ALWAYS be a better set than the others for a specific class for specific purposes. I would agree that it would be nice if they're reasonably close. But saying that other specs don't need support items is just wrong and you know it.

    Where exactly was I raging and being childish? I am merely stating facts. WW needs to be buffed alot without support items! Delsere`s got tons of damage, and it can farm T10 reasonably fast and easy. My arcane orbit wiz crit like 15-20B without CoE, meaning I oneshot elite packs, and 2/3 shot RG with crits on T10. It might not have the movement speed, which you can ofc spec into if that is needed, but it still trumps WW set by quite a bit.

    Show me where I said that other specs don`t need support items. What I said was that other classes aren`t depending on 1 single item to get them to T10. Because the sets are "increased damage" to "all" skills, so you can make whatever build you want not relying on 1 single item. My wizard can do T10 without WoW, T10 without unstable scepter, DH can do T10 without Yang`s Recurve and Manticore. It will ofc suffer a bit damage wise, but the damage will still be enough to kill stuff on T10 pretty fast.

    My WW barb on PTR, 5.3M damage without WotB, yet dust devil hits for a measly 258m crit on a elite, with furnace cubed. Because WW set isn`t "increased damage" multiplier like literally every other set, its 2500% WEAPON damage. if it was changed to 2500% increased damage, the story would (probably, depending on mechanics)be very different.

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    Quote from PicoPoco84»

    Yes, but you misread what I wrote. It is bad design if you need a ring to even compete in T10, let alone high GR`s. If a set is so weak, that you need a ring to do what most other sets can do with mediocre gear, then it is "bad design".


    The set should be buffed as is, and THEN you should have the choice of a ring or whatever other slot. The set is way too weak and has been for a long time, compared to other sets. Which is my point, not that you HAVE to have that legendary, cause its that way with basically every build. 6pc power of basically every other set > WW set. A lot of other sets have a multitude of uses and builds, and are not limited to a single damage dealing skill , that deals 1/10th of what every other set does.


    Almost every set has extra items needed to be T10 viable in one way or another. They just do. T7, maybe T8 or even T9 are doable, but the latter ones most assuredly not in good time. Just finishing the fullset from the Season Journey without supporting items seldom lets you do T10 straight away. I'm being cautious, because I haven't played every single build this season (more games to play, other things to do), so I could be off about one or two. Still, thinking WW is the only set that needs complementary items to do T10 is just plain wrong.
    It is the only set that needs a 4x multiplier item in addition to all other supporting items. Tell me one other set that needs a x4 multiplier to even do T10? Right, noone. I have a wizard, and firebird/tal rasha set can pretty much do T10 speed with non ancient, non optimal gear. No need for CoE + FnR and ancient weapon on any of them to do T10 reasonably fast. My flash fire wizard/Spectral blade wizard, UE DH etc hits for billions upon billions continously, and my WW barb crits for a few hundred millions max. Rend ticks for like 70-80m with 2x2.9k dmg BK set. Flash fire wizard crits for 5-6B with explosive blast, and the 3k% firebird burn ticks for 3B+.
    1200+ paragon, full ancient WW barb, with 2x2.9k BK weapons, FnR, CoE in cube, and I still spend 1+min on T10 RG alone. Every set needs complementary items for builds, difference is WW barb can`t do T10 with the same BIS items as other classes do GR80+ with.
    You still don`t get what I am saying. Yes, every build/class/set needs all kinds of shit, difference is, they don`t need a 4x multiplier ontop of every other item like CoE/FnR like every class has, to do T10. If we gave wizards or Marauder DH`s a 4x multiplier they`d break GR100 solo probably, and not "break" T10 lol.
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