I'd really like to say that Hellgate: London is an amazing game. Thought it's not classic and it's not Diablo II (well, I think it's better still), it's still a very good game, made by very experienced people, the makers of Diablo (or Diablo II...)
The game is extremely fun.
if u have only play in norm then i can see why u might like it, but in nm it is another game. weapon and armorer req is just to harsh , u get a weapon that does 2 more damage at lvl 31 that cost alot it bad placement of stats just to see a weapon at lvl 10 cost much less >< and does same amount of damage.
the whole game has same mobs just another color with new moves. and guns the maps are same tunnel,sewers, streets.
Nightmare it just that a nightmare lol loot req is just to harsh like a d&d game. mybe they will fixs nm but as one fss guy said they did not see anything wronge with nm. if u could just see the forums right now lol they are mess up with people crying about nm being unbeatable and about stats loot req.
the game could have been killer but as of now people are stuck in nm with no way of adding better gear becuase of the high stat req. lvl cap is 50 and the ending boss is lvl 62 that no one is able to beat at this time.
The real problem is at some point you can not really use better gear u find. it's not like d2 were u add points in str for mele u got add points in will "will is power pool like mana" for mods "mods are something like runes" for me it to much d&d in the upper lvl of the game. o did i say uniq are bug can drop statless lmao.
here is how the stat system works. each time u add a item it adds up in a total. if u have 2 pieces boots and body armorer cost 50 will each "will is power pool" that 100 points needed in will to use both pieces of armorer but u are a mele char that need str for damage and vita for life. U lose 100 points in a useless stat. Now say u find another piece of armorer like shoulders but it again cost another 50 in will u would have to remove one of the other piece of armorer to wear it.
So u can never really up grade to full set of cool gear it's just dumb as heck.
Del this thread. It is not going anywhere, everything was already said 300 times and if slayerwarrior can't read it is his issue, don't waste your time replying...
The original post sounds like viral marketing to me (I didn't bother reading the rest of the thread). Anyway, I'm sure Hellgate: London will be a decent game, but it's not going to be a substitute for a new Diablo, at least for me. I want Diablo, not some watered down, sci-fi hybrid of it! I'm sure most Diablo fans would echo my views. I could care less if it was made by the original creators of Diablo. Unlike books, painting, and other forms of media, the actual people and personalites in game design don't mean all that much. The current staff at Blizzard could probably beat the original creators of Diablo at making a new Diablo game. They certainly have the resources and skill to do so, and I think they will.
water down? no more like a new type rpg just like diablo when it first came out. i'll bet it will be better then decent, and blizzard could make a better diablo where is it?
nope but i have read and seen enough info on the game tell me it will be a blast. IF it NO fun truste me i be first that come back eat my words suck up say u guys are right but thats me.
Quote from "slayerwarrior" »
So why did u even say this
[quote name='Shere Khaan']It's pretty simple really. In response to your claims that Diablo 3 was going to be crap because some previous people that worked on Diablo 2 had left, I explained that even a mediocre company could take Diablo 2 and make a third one. But Blizzard being a quality games company with money to burn ad a reputation to attract good staff would be able to take it much further and make an awesome game..
so u like blizzard , they have 1 title that i like diablo but thats it. eq2 imo is way better then wow in the mmo and has alot more content imo. When u hit raid zone in eq2 u have multi bosses to take down not just 1.
Quote from name="Shere Khaan" »
You then said something about D2 being old tech, so I simply replied it was somewhat pathetic to think that Blizzard would actually do Diablo 3 as a 2D game.
Never thought blizzard would do d3 in 2d. let me add when i said old tech i mean d3 will need start from scratch. so what good would d2 be for them?but what do i know i'm not a tech it's just my point of view.
Quote from name="Shere Khaan" »
Riiiight. So when you said:.
That going on the info i had about diablo3 being mmo heaven vs hell. soon as i read that crap about it might be a mmo like wow your'e right in my mind it will suck and lost all it's appeal for me.
Quote from name="Shere Khaan" »
You actually meant this in a good sense.
And now let me look at this. You don't like MMO's, so why are you even blowing HGL's horn? You know that it is going to have raid content, pvp etc? You're going to have to pay $12 US a month to access this raid content which puts it on par with WoW cost-wise - and probably like wow with raids too.
Good luck being satisfied with the online features without paying a premium price for it.
First i'll be paying not even for the extra content but just for update/patchs that will stop cheats/hacks ect... to me 10.00 (not 12 unless u got something new)buck is worth ever penny long as i'm having fun. the extra content will just be a bonus. i like to solo/group really care less for raid but some do.
i hate mmo for one reason force raiding to even have a chance for best items and in eq2 ( raid is 24 people )it really limits the amount of fun. wow not sure but 4-6 hours for one end mob need as many as 40 people blah for elite item blah.
U know raids are not going be same like wow or eq2. from my understand u will not need group of 24/40 people kill a name for chance to get elite item all players will have chance at elite items solo/group/raid. This part what i like the most (loot elite loot being able to have a chance at finding best items in the game soloing/group/raid or how ever u like). swords/guns who care long as it's a fun cool rpg and hgl fits in to what i'm looking for like diablo did u can solo/group for random elite drops u be able to build chars useing stats/skill points items ect... and kill ton and tons mobs with hours of fun and not be limited. they have add alot stuff to missions/events//color code /quest ect... thing they want to do for diablo but never had a chance.
Of course it's old freaking tech since it was released in 2000. And thinking that Blizzard wouldn't improve the graphics is just being pathetic given they made Starcraft 2 in 3D.
So why did u even say this
Quote from name="Shere Khaan" »
Blizzard own all the intellectual property of the previous versions of Diablo. It would only take a mediocre gaming company to copy it and add new story to it. Blizzard will be able to take the solid foundation and take it a lot further.
Quote from name="Shere Khaan" »
This is a Diablo 3 forum, you come here and say Diablo 3 will be crappy with absolutely no basis; then somehow think that people will actually consider any point of view you have?.
pull up one post were i said diablo3 would be crappy! i might have said not the same or if it was made into a crappy mmo but i hate mmos not rpgs.
Quote from name="Shere Khaan" »
yes I am rude, and no I am not twisting your words. However, you are argumentative, sensationalist and don't write proper sentences.
But let me follow that up with some quotes of your gibberish just so I can defend why I have been rude.
no i don't want attention.
Yea u kids are lucky u have a program out now call (don't leave kids behind) I'm one of the many people that got left behind in school now they have program so that does not happen any more!
You have read the threads around here right? Ever heard of Starcraft? Ya, those people left? Ever heard of Starcraft 2? Hmm...
yes but have u played starcraft2? do u know if it's any good ?
Quote from "Equinox" »
Hellgate is not refreshing, it simply has nothing to do with Diablo, as far as I have seen. In any case, comparing an alpha of a game is kind of strange. Hellgate has way too many differences to be associated with Diablo both gameplay wise and universe wise.
yes it will be refreshing game to play right now most rpg and mmorpg suck and i see no good rpg coming out any time soon. Ok last time it's doom3/diablo mix another words it's own game but doom3/diablo feel.
Quote from "Equinox" »
Pretty much. Not exactly the title, but the idea. Everything that makes a diablo game diablo, you don't need to personaly develop it to know that.
who ideal was it to make diablo?
Quote from "ikyle620" »
For correctional purposes: The creators of the Diablo series were not part of blizzard when the idea started. After realizing that the Schaefer Brothers and Friends had a hit on their hands, Blizzard BOUGHT the small gaming company, and put Bill Roper as one of the heads of the Newly Founded Blizzard North.
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What is your point calling us so? It's not wise to call another person something offensive
"what does fanboy mean to u"
False fan.
ok this is what fanboy means Fanboy is a term used to describe an individual (usually male, though the feminine version fangirl may be used for females) who is utterly devoted to a single fannish subject, or to a single point of view within that subject, often to the point where it is considered an obsession. Fanboys remain loyal to their particular obsession, disregarding any factors (often including logic) that differ from their point of view
yea u should try reading! i'll get back to this point in few mins.
Quote from name="Shere Khaan" »
Blizzard own all the intellectual property of the previous versions of Diablo. It would only take a mediocre gaming company to copy it and add new story to it. Blizzard will be able to take the solid foundation and take it a lot further.
old tech dude diablo2 was made in 2d. d3 would need to be made in 3d whole new system imo.
Quote from name="Shere Khaan" »
You are preaching HGL. Pretty much everyone here will try it because it will most likely be a good game. I'll buy it for sure. But first let me throw this post back at you:
u should say defending! now do i need go back pull up page of quote? u still not reading everthing? do u have blinder on?
Quote from name="Shere Khaan" »
So your evangelical praise of these programmers, whose one big idea on splitting with Blizzard is to make a rip-off with guns (burnt out much?), is really pointless in this forum.
Quote from "Carloseus" »
a beta form of diablo 3 by blizzard would easily pwn HL. no contest,
Quote from "Sandman53" »
Couldn't have said it better myself
Quote from "Blades11" »
Hellgate London is shit. Not "The Shit"
Secondly..... It's absolutely nothing like Diablo.......
I want a new diablo not a cheap imitation.
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Screw you Fucker. Don't wake peoples hopes, when you got only news of a dissapointing shitty game.[/quote
You come here spouting crap about a game that hasn't even been
announced yet and expect to be taken seriously? Then you claim that you just want to give people something to try, but they are close minded for not listening to you. Sure....
example of close mind!
Quote from "Stereo" »
Yes, I read that. But mostly it's guns. In Diablo the array of weapons feature Mauls, swords, hammers, axes, bows, etc.
Quote from "AlphaX" »
HL is a shooter. TPS. Diablo is an RPG. There you go. And by guns, I mean majority.
Quote from "Sofawall" »
I even did the math
He's right, it is by and large frm what we have seen a TPS/FPS/TPH&S, not a Diablo.
u can not get pass the fact it has guns. like i said u guys have blinders.
Quote from name="Shere Khaan" »
Then you claim that you just want to give people something to try....
no i said this
IMO This hole thread was made not to replace diablo but give u something to try but some people are just so closed minded but we are humens
now did i make the thread lmfao?
u are just rude person just trying twiste my words.
Quote from name="Shere Khaan" »
Couldn't read your post, it was all gibberish. You may have an excuse for that being retarded and all though.
Quote from name="Shere Khaan" »
Thank you for providing a handy example of your literary prowess.
Quote from name="Shere Khaan" »
So your evangelical praise of these programmers, whose one big idea on splitting with Blizzard is to make a rip-off with guns (burnt out much?), is really pointless in this forum.
And you are the biggest fanboy here. Everyone here is a fan of the game: the story, the action, the dialogue, the game play etc.
You are a blind fan of those who initially created it. You are also somewhat dense to not realise that there are many talented people out there, not just these 17 individuals you praise like Gods.
A company like Blizzard - cashed up as it is - can afford the best in the industry. It can afford new ideas ad really gifted programers to really bring Diablo 3 into the new generation of games and redefine the genre. Why do you think they have been recruiting so long? Not because no one wants to work there, that's for sure.
So your evangelical praise of these programmers, whose one big idea on splitting with Blizzard is to make a rip-off with guns (burnt out much?), is really pointless in this forum.
Quote from name="Shere Khaan" »
not just these 17 individuals you praise like Gods.
it's 19 u should read my full post before u post on what i said.
Quote from name="Shere Khaan" »
A company like Blizzard - cashed up as it is - can afford the best in the industry. It can afford new ideas ad really gifted programers to really bring Diablo 3 into the new generation of games and redefine the genre. Why do you think they have been recruiting so long? Not because no one wants to work there, that's for sure.
sure they can get new people to work on new game but does not mean it will have same type feel to the game play. each person has thier own ideals that what make us humans.
Quote from name="Shere Khaan" »
So your evangelical praise of these programmers, whose one big idea on splitting with Blizzard is to make a rip-off with guns (burnt out much?), is really pointless in this forum.
lol yes i am burnt out on close mind people. I'M NOT PEARCHING hgl will own all but i do think it will be great game but the kicker is how u say rip-off with guns. have u even play the game? have u took more then ten sec to read up on it? What fact do u have that fss is trying to rip-off people with there new game?
that cool at least u willing give it a chance. i just can not stand some of the remarks made in this thread about hgl when no one has even took time out look into the game see what it's about or look and said omg it's guns it fps!
1# I repeat, you do not need the same developers to make a similar game, moreover, you don't usually want a similar game. There were series of games made by different developers and they were absolutely fine, even though they had their differences, but at least they shared the universes.
2# And stop calling us fanboys. Who do you think you are?
1# thanks that why hgl would be so good it's new and refreshing. i can go watch someone trying be elivs but it will never replace when i seen him on tv live when i was a kid.
2# who am i well i am me and what is your point asking me? u guys praise game diablo3 (not even made) on the fact it blizzard title so imo to me thats a fanboy of blizzard.
1# I repeat, you do not need the same developers to make a similar game, moreover, you don't usually want a similar game. There were series of games made by different developers and they were absolutely fine, even though they had their differences, but at least they shared the universes.
2# And stop calling us fanboys. Who do you think you are?
1# thanks that why hgl would be so good it's new and refreshing. i can go watch someone trying be elivs but it will never replace when i seen him on tv live when i was a kid.
Quote from "Equinox" »
"I repeat, you do not need the same developers to make a similar game"
does this mean title means more then the people who created the game? and their is alot similar copy cat diablo out there none of them are fun.
2# who am i well i am me and what is your point asking me? u guys praise game diablo3 (not even made) on the fact it blizzard title so imo to me thats a fanboy of blizzard.
Now i have question for u what does "fanboy" mean to u?
Quote from "winstonthe4th" »
We are not Blizzard fanboys. We are good game fanboys. And if Blizzard makes the good game then we like Blizzard.
so that means if hgl is a great game then u love fss as well?
Missing the fact that there is a concept, idea, universe, named "Diablo". There can be no Diablo game without that concept (which is Blizzard's property), but there can be a Diablo with new developers. It is not as hard to replicate something as it is to invent it in the first place.
And shouting won't help you much around here.
Blizzard only owns "THE TITLE DIABLO" but not the brains who created diablo.
IT's just like elvis impersanator he might have the name elvis even might sound like elvis but in truth he is not elvis and can never be elvis. What made elvis so good was not he's name but how he perform that somthing no one will ever be able to do.
(which is Blizzard's property) like i said u guys are blizzard fanboys nothing more nothing less.
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if u have only play in norm then i can see why u might like it, but in nm it is another game. weapon and armorer req is just to harsh , u get a weapon that does 2 more damage at lvl 31 that cost alot it bad placement of stats just to see a weapon at lvl 10 cost much less >< and does same amount of damage.
the whole game has same mobs just another color with new moves. and guns the maps are same tunnel,sewers, streets.
Nightmare it just that a nightmare lol loot req is just to harsh like a d&d game. mybe they will fixs nm but as one fss guy said they did not see anything wronge with nm. if u could just see the forums right now lol they are mess up with people crying about nm being unbeatable and about stats loot req.
the game could have been killer but as of now people are stuck in nm with no way of adding better gear becuase of the high stat req. lvl cap is 50 and the ending boss is lvl 62 that no one is able to beat at this time.
The real problem is at some point you can not really use better gear u find. it's not like d2 were u add points in str for mele u got add points in will "will is power pool like mana" for mods "mods are something like runes" for me it to much d&d in the upper lvl of the game. o did i say uniq are bug can drop statless lmao.
here is how the stat system works. each time u add a item it adds up in a total. if u have 2 pieces boots and body armorer cost 50 will each "will is power pool" that 100 points needed in will to use both pieces of armorer but u are a mele char that need str for damage and vita for life. U lose 100 points in a useless stat. Now say u find another piece of armorer like shoulders but it again cost another 50 in will u would have to remove one of the other piece of armorer to wear it.
So u can never really up grade to full set of cool gear it's just dumb as heck.
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I'm not the only one with issuse
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water down? no more like a new type rpg just like diablo when it first came out. i'll bet it will be better then decent, and blizzard could make a better diablo where is it?
release date diablO and makers 11/30/96
http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/data/11255.html
release date diablo2 and makers Jun 29, 2000
http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/data/197113.html
4 yrs between diablo/diablo2 it been 7 yr's now and no d3 good luck!
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nope but i have read and seen enough info on the game tell me it will be a blast. IF it NO fun truste me i be first that come back eat my words suck up say u guys are right but thats me.
so u like blizzard , they have 1 title that i like diablo but thats it. eq2 imo is way better then wow in the mmo and has alot more content imo. When u hit raid zone in eq2 u have multi bosses to take down not just 1.
Never thought blizzard would do d3 in 2d. let me add when i said old tech i mean d3 will need start from scratch. so what good would d2 be for them?but what do i know i'm not a tech it's just my point of view.
That going on the info i had about diablo3 being mmo heaven vs hell. soon as i read that crap about it might be a mmo like wow your'e right in my mind it will suck and lost all it's appeal for me.
First i'll be paying not even for the extra content but just for update/patchs that will stop cheats/hacks ect... to me 10.00 (not 12 unless u got something new)buck is worth ever penny long as i'm having fun. the extra content will just be a bonus. i like to solo/group really care less for raid but some do.
i hate mmo for one reason force raiding to even have a chance for best items and in eq2 ( raid is 24 people )it really limits the amount of fun. wow not sure but 4-6 hours for one end mob need as many as 40 people blah for elite item blah.
U know raids are not going be same like wow or eq2. from my understand u will not need group of 24/40 people kill a name for chance to get elite item all players will have chance at elite items solo/group/raid. This part what i like the most (loot elite loot being able to have a chance at finding best items in the game soloing/group/raid or how ever u like). swords/guns who care long as it's a fun cool rpg and hgl fits in to what i'm looking for like diablo did u can solo/group for random elite drops u be able to build chars useing stats/skill points items ect... and kill ton and tons mobs with hours of fun and not be limited. they have add alot stuff to missions/events//color code /quest ect... thing they want to do for diablo but never had a chance.
pvp can be alot fun if done right.
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So why did u even say this
pull up one post were i said diablo3 would be crappy! i might have said not the same or if it was made into a crappy mmo but i hate mmos not rpgs.
no i don't want attention.
Yea u kids are lucky u have a program out now call (don't leave kids behind) I'm one of the many people that got left behind in school now they have program so that does not happen any more!
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yes but have u played starcraft2? do u know if it's any good ?
yes it will be refreshing game to play right now most rpg and mmorpg suck and i see no good rpg coming out any time soon. Ok last time it's doom3/diablo mix another words it's own game but doom3/diablo feel.
who ideal was it to make diablo?
ok this is what fanboy means
Fanboy is a term used to describe an individual (usually male, though the feminine version fangirl may be used for females) who is utterly devoted to a single fannish subject, or to a single point of view within that subject, often to the point where it is considered an obsession. Fanboys remain loyal to their particular obsession, disregarding any factors (often including logic) that differ from their point of view
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yea u should try reading! i'll get back to this point in few mins.
old tech dude diablo2 was made in 2d. d3 would need to be made in 3d whole new system imo.
u should say defending! now do i need go back pull up page of quote? u still not reading everthing? do u have blinder on?
example of close mind!
u can not get pass the fact it has guns. like i said u guys have blinders.
no i said this
IMO This hole thread was made not to replace diablo but give u something to try but some people are just so closed minded but we are humens
now did i make the thread lmfao?
u are just rude person just trying twiste my words.
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cool man have fun, see u in hgl.
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hey thats cool i can respect that but u should try hgl u might like to add it to your great series. u won't know unless u try it
IMO This hole thread was made not to replace diablo but give u something to try but some people are just so closed minded but we are humens.
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it's 19 u should read my full post before u post on what i said.
sure they can get new people to work on new game but does not mean it will have same type feel to the game play. each person has thier own ideals that what make us humans.
lol yes i am burnt out on close mind people. I'M NOT PEARCHING hgl will own all but i do think it will be great game but the kicker is how u say rip-off with guns. have u even play the game? have u took more then ten sec to read up on it? What fact do u have that fss is trying to rip-off people with there new game?
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that cool at least u willing give it a chance. i just can not stand some of the remarks made in this thread about hgl when no one has even took time out look into the game see what it's about or look and said omg it's guns it fps!
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1# thanks that why hgl would be so good it's new and refreshing. i can go watch someone trying be elivs but it will never replace when i seen him on tv live when i was a kid.
2# who am i well i am me and what is your point asking me? u guys praise game diablo3 (not even made) on the fact it blizzard title so imo to me thats a fanboy of blizzard.
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does this mean title means more then the people who created the game? and their is alot similar copy cat diablo out there none of them are fun.
2# who am i well i am me and what is your point asking me? u guys praise game diablo3 (not even made) on the fact it blizzard title so imo to me thats a fanboy of blizzard.
Now i have question for u what does "fanboy" mean to u?
so that means if hgl is a great game then u love fss as well?
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Blizzard only owns "THE TITLE DIABLO" but not the brains who created diablo.
IT's just like elvis impersanator he might have the name elvis even might sound like elvis but in truth he is not elvis and can never be elvis. What made elvis so good was not he's name but how he perform that somthing no one will ever be able to do.
(which is Blizzard's property) like i said u guys are blizzard fanboys nothing more nothing less.