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In other words, Blizzard has realized their systems they created to "better" Diablo 2 are broken and do not end up being fun or creating any sort of true connection with the player after playing for an extended period of tme. Stop carebearing the damn game Blizzard, give us optional stats, and real skill system. Trying to be lazy about it and have everything on auto will bite you in the ass and make you create dumb fixes like this, no better then runewords in Diablo 2.

How is it being lazy, and why is having everything on "auto" dumb?

Q: Will there be more PvP modes besides arena mode?
The developers found that PvP in Diablo II mostly split players up for fear of getting ganked, meaning more players were playing in private games than playing together in public ones. This led to a focus on on a dedicated PvP mode with dedicated PvP support, the arena, and a PvP progression system. However, more PvP modes are being considered, and Jay Wilson even said that they are looking into a dueling option similar to Diablo II, although nothing concrete is yet known and they aren't sure if such a mode will make the initial release.

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I don't know about you guys, but the only reason that I ever leveled a character on Diablo 2 was so that I could PvP at end game. I don't think anyone had fun just spamming baal runs till 99 and then just stoping... PvP has always been Diablo's real end game.

Bingo. For anyone to make a claim and say PvP wasn't "real" in Diablo series, or that it wasn't "true" just shows how blind they are to the series.
Yes there are people that enjoy killing monsters, they enjoy grinding levels and gear. I have met quite a few on my many years of Diablo. However at least on US East, I found MANY MANY MANY MANY more who grinded gear and levels so they can trade so they can make PvP characters. It is basic gaming formula 101 here, when the content is so played out people find alternate ways to play. PvP is and always has been and always will be a huge part of the Diablo series whether Jay or you PvM heroes wanna accept it or not. I am also not dumb enough to try and say that PvP is end all be all way to play Diablo like most of you PvM heroes who seem threatened by PvP'ers.

Vlad, Get over yourself buddy.

In other threads you jump quickly to your own defence that your not a basher of PVM players, and that all you want is your precious hostility button and in game dueling back. Yet in this post you quickly turn on your PVM players bash button and start saying how much PVP is a huge part of the diablo series and us PVM heroes are threatened by the PVP'ers. And also, there's no need to get all teary because Jay Wilson didn't lean towards PVP implementation a bit more in Diablo III. Obviously the blizzard development team decided to stick to what Diablo III is truely about and in the same process give you PVP'ers who like the option to break away from the normal game for a bit of different fun, the ARENA.

Furthermore, "people who say PVP wasn't real in the diablo series, truely shows how blind they to the series" That's a laugh, I can't even comment on that one mate. But if you knew anything about what the Diablo series really is, then you would know.

It's about.

-Lore and epic story.
-Cooperative based gameplay on and offline (to meet the end of that story with other people or by yourself)
-The rich, satisfying, enjoyable.. Item hunt.
-Pick up the game for 30 mins and enjoy every minute (Accomplish something no matter how small it may be)

So please before you go expressing to much "I know everything" think about what your saying.

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I don't know about you guys, but the only reason that I ever leveled a character on Diablo 2 was so that I could PvP at end game. I don't think anyone had fun just spamming baal runs till 99 and then just stoping... PvP has always been Diablo's real end game.

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Getting rid of skill points forces the character customization to be based on equipment.
Customization = equipment --> trading --> $$ for Blizzard
We can still customize...for a price (which is a good business model)

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Ok, so I dont know if I am missing something here or not. People are arguing that they are basically taking out the players choice and consequences for their actions because you can freely choose which skills to use at any given time (which I agree). So, what if the player still had to choose which skill to use out of their 6 and they could not change it after they selected it. The skills still scale with level and are made more powerful. With that being said, you keep respec in the game to change your 6 skills that are alotted to you. This way, the players choices have consequences, there is a cost to change skills around, and this still eliminates the skill system. I just dont think that people should be able to choose whatever skill to use at any given time, that just doesnt make since to me. You are going to use whatever skill set is effective for whatever types of monsters you are fighting at that time and change it as you go. I dont feel like people have to make very many decisions and everything is handed to you on a silver platter. If anything, they should make it where it costs the player something to change their 6 skills around...by thats just me, anyone see any problems with this?

This is exactly what a couple of other people and I have asked for. It retains their system and allows us to actually make choices beyond putting them in our skill bar.

1. You don't know ANYTHING about limits and costs of respecs or anything yet... wait for it before you complain, there will be costs and respec limits.

2. Respeccing skills in 6 + 3 is not that easy and fast, once you choose your skills you are supposed to stick with them for a while, so choose wisely.

3. Runestones makes you focus on which 6 spells you want to be using alot, so, you don't want to just use all spells all time. You want to use the spells you think is fun and the spells which u play with best, and focus on them with runes, items, gems etc..

4. You can't switch spells on the fly, while in combat, or even in a dungeon.

5. Not being able to change the 6 spells you choose, would be the same as D2 in away, you CAN always respec, if u wanna try anothe rbuild, and u can always refocus ur runes, but it takes alot of cost and work to do so.

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Ok, so I dont know if I am missing something here or not. People are arguing that they are basically taking out the players choice and consequences for their actions because you can freely choose which skills to use at any given time (which I agree). So, what if the player still had to choose which skill to use out of their 6 and they could not change it after they selected it. The skills still scale with level and are made more powerful. With that being said, you keep respec in the game to change your 6 skills that are alotted to you. This way, the players choices have consequences, there is a cost to change skills around, and this still eliminates the skill system. I just dont think that people should be able to choose whatever skill to use at any given time, that just doesnt make since to me. You are going to use whatever skill set is effective for whatever types of monsters you are fighting at that time and change it as you go. I dont feel like people have to make very many decisions and everything is handed to you on a silver platter. If anything, they should make it where it costs the player something to change their 6 skills around...by thats just me, anyone see any problems with this?

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It only took me about 4 hours of playing D2 to become disenchanted with the skill system. I don't know why people love it so much. The insane diminishing returns made actually maximizing builds tedious and unrewarding and the addition of synergies later just exacerbated the problem by forcing an even greater point expenditure just to max your chosen skill. As Jay pointed out in the interview, you were forced to pick a skill or two to focus on which stifled diversity. And what if you wanted to try a different build? Reroll, start from level 1, and grind out everything once again.

This new system, on the other hand, completely removes those problems. It lets the players enjoy every aspect of their class and tailor it to fit their style without cringing every time they have to drop another point in the same skill just so they can keep progressing. Furthermore, since they'll know exactly how powerful the base skills are at any given level then they'll know exactly how strong to make the enemies in order to provide the appropriate challenge. The true variables are equipment and runes, the latter of which essentially lets you choose from ~100-110 different options for those six active skill slots.

Some people are really upset by this decision. Nothing wrong with that. But let's maybe give the game a chance before deciding that it's completely ruined. I fully expect that most of the naysayers are going to come around and find D3 to be just as rich and rewarding as they found D2. As for me, I've never been more excited for this game than I am right now.

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And nobody at Blizzard work with graphic design? Weird, I wonder who's been making all their design choices and the actual art/graphics.. You're entitled to your opinion, but stating your "trade" means nothing when you can't tell what everything's for (it's not even final). I worked with graphic design myself and it looks ace to me!