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In spite of the overbearing continued responses from fans all over the web, any news on the patch announced last spring was as commonplace as hamsters on Pluto. Today, we have finally gotten an update, but it might not be one that many will enjoy to see:


The patch has been delayed.

Again.

On the bright side, it looks like the increased inventory size previously suggested (see Patch 1.13: Larger Inventory for Diablo II) is planned to stay, although it is the cause of the delay. It also seems that a sincere promise on progress will be made next week- whether or not this will mean anything with regard to how they have handled the relaying of information and the keeping of promises in the past is yet to be seen (see WCIII Patch is Up- Diablo II Patch 1.13 Soon to Follow?).

UPDATE (10/01/09):

It would seem that Bashiok is on a reply spree for 1.13 today. It is confirmed that two of the three top requests for patch 1.13 will not be met:


So far, the following has been confirmed:

1. Increased stash size, which is the cause of the current delay as they take hardware and server considerations in to thought, is so far essentially confirmed.
2. No increased resolution- it would require "fundamental change" to the game and would have to account for faster player traveling issues (like being able to Teleport or Jump farther), spawning monsters on a larger scale around the player, and monster aggro would have to be taken in to account.
3. No new end-game content. Bashiok noted that with this patch it would not be possible to add it, although there was no inkling of whether or not it would or would not be included with any future patch.

Thanks goes to D3luxe for finding this first (see his thread here).

UPDATE (10/14/09):


No real news, just a rehashing of the previous statement made a week ago, except now he is not alluding to a dated announcement.

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That and the site detects you as being idle if you spend a period of time not doing anything "actively", meaning posting, searching, hittin da buttenz randomely etc.

I agree with Paladin88! It seems your login session expires, so you have to login again! It happens to me from time to time! If you're inactive for some time, then it will happen!

I stay logged on for hours sometimes when I forget to log off and I'm obviously not doing anything and it hasn't happened to me.

The blazing orange sphere of the sun began to sink below the cloud level of a sky quickening to dusk. The clouds were a mix of dark, cold hues contrasted starkly with the iridescent flaming outline cast on them from the setting sun.

Thick masses of pines twisted with small vines and shrubs were left behind as the wagon and the rest of the Knights of the Burning Blade entered Desolation, a humble but (previously) growing town of thatched roofs and stone walls, all bearing previous traces of fine ivy playing along the grooves and cracks and small wildflowers bursting through the scattered bits of foliage that crowded between masses of barrels, crates, wagon wheels, and farming equipment.

High pillars of smoke held up the blazing sky, as if preventing the heavens from crashing to Sanctuary and blotting out all the remainders of the bloody slaughter and destruction of the hamlet. Sinking window frames had been smashed through, scorch marks bordering their absence, partially-dried blood stained the walls and padded, earthen roads. The nature-made rooftops were occasionally missing whole chunks of material, some were even still smoldering in leu of the attack.

Bits of ash floated on a slight breeze putrid with the distinct and loathsome aroma of death. About the base of the demolished buildings were the mangled and oddly-bent remains of men (scarcely), women, and children who had remained behind in the hour of war, perhaps for their own futile and ignorant protection.

Buliwyf and Jamis, as well as a few others, headed toward a small hillock occupied by the only still-inhabitable structure left in Tappas, a huge, ancient, stone-block church that rose with the columns of smoke, emissary of mortal man against the inevitibility of death and loss. A man was crumpled against the wall adjoining the front door, a heavyset wooden portal, beaten and tired. He mumbled a few words to Buliwyf before falling to sleep eternal.

As Buliwyf stood back to his feet, Mordwythe could distinctly make out the man's detesting and anger-laden voice struggle to allow the words to form from his mouth. "They played us all for fools. Riddia will pay for this!"

It makes one wonder, Mordwythe thought, how mankind can allow itself to consume itself when we stand alone against our mortal weakness and in the face of the eternal demons and angels of old. How could this have happened? How could we have let the Riddians pass us by without notice to wreak havoc against the weak and helpless?

The thought was, admittedly, less of a caring so much as a statement of disbelief. Mordwythe had never been particularly fond of his parents in any way, although they had been, he supposed, homely enough. Even of his master Drognan he had never felt a fondness. Perhaps that emptiness was his payment for his ambition.

He shuffled his boot against a frail, lifeless, and bloody arm of a small child. So many futures, so many hopes... The progression of mankind is once more stymied.

He dusted bits of ash and nature from his robe and headed for the church.

Well, the BlizzCon starts in roughly two days, and I am glad to see how excited everyone is getting about this pending Blizzard event. This year's is planned to be bigger and better than ever before, but it looks like fans have gotten a bit of a taste of what will come before it has even started in the form of the Gamescon that transpired in Germany (see here for the announcement about this event).

Just looking at some of the reports linked to by fans here, I've seen that there is a good bit of information that was released at the Gamescon, and though this report may not cover all of it, it will hopefully "wet your whistle", as they say around here, for the pleasures BlizzCon '09 is sure to bring.

A report at Kotaku by Michael McWhertor (here) gives a nice run-down of what the writer experienced with a demo play of Diablo III at the Gamescon. It would seem that, while there were no additional characters able to be played besides the already-announced Barbarian, Wizard, and Witch Doctor, demo players were able to pick a character and start off in the new and previously-not-covered desert area, Sundered Pass, which apparently was very reminiscent of the deserts of Lut Gholein in Diablo II. As for how awesomely-desertesque this area was, well, perhaps Michael said it better than I could:

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Of course, the deserts in Diablo III look far better than those featured in the previous game, with visible winds carrying clouds of sand across the plains, dust storms kicking up around us. The land is similarly populated with tiny desert creatures, snakes and insects that get trampled underfoot.

Did you see that last little sentence? More squish-ables! Hurray!

Furthermore, he went on to elaborate that one of the main quest of this area of Diablo III was issued by Asheara to head to a town called Alcarnus and see what the raving is all about, perhaps related, quite obviously, again, to the Lord of Terror's return to Sanctuary. Whether or not this Asheara is related to or is, in fact, the same as the Asheara of Diablo II's Act III was not revealed (you can read more about the Asheara of Diablo II here in our Wiki).

However, it would seem that they never actually reached this precipice of the desert area's quest, but instead stumbled upon several side quests that, from the limited input we can gather, was quite entertaining, involving a certain Husam and his bounty:

Quote from name="Michael McWhertor" »

...we ran into a few side quests. One sent us after the bounty of a man named Husam. The price on his head was high, so we took his head. It really only took one good whack from the maces we were dual-wielding. After some backtalk from Husam, we bludgeoned him until his head popped off.

And, even more, later in his write-up he mentions a few more of the quests:

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The demo offered a few side quests on our way to Alcarnus. We ran into a "Crazed Miner," who offered us the quest, "A Miner's Gold." All we had to do was defend the miner while he raised a treasure chest via a pulley system. When he started, swarms of Fallen came after him. If we were successful in defending the miner from the swarm, we'd get half the gold. It really wasn't a challenge for the Barbarian, as Ground Stomp made that defense quest a simple task.

To me it seems that this last one, "A Miner's Gold", will be fallible. Meaning, you can fail it if you do not accomplish the required ends. This could be a good turn in the questing system for the Diablo series, since in Diablo II and Diablo I I believe that the only way you failed a quest was if you died doing it, at which point you would just come back from the dead and start again on it. This new way of handling quests, if my assumptions are correct, would provide a far heavier challenge than the previous installments did.

He then elaborated on the new inventory system some more, a 28-slot backpack called, officially, the Adventurer's Backpack (how creative). Items will react similarly to many new games, specifically MMO's come to mind (I remember this function in Runes of Magic):

Quote from name="Michael McWhertor" »

...the newest version is far more streamlined. When hovering over unequipped items in your inventory, you'll see a pop up window with that item's vital statistics and the item you currently have equipped in that slot.

And there we have it, more evidence of developers mixing in the best of the old with the best of the new- being able to compare items without having to dance your mouse pointer around the screen between various items and instead being able to to it instantaneously by simply hovering your mouse over one item and seeing it compared against your current equipment. That seems like a welcome and useful change to Diablo II's archaic equipment system.

Now, of what he meant by this, I am not quite so sure:

Quote from name="Michael McWhertor" »

That made it a lot easier to see if the leather pants we picked up at one point were better than the "lucky" leather pants we started out with. They were. A right click equipped them, draining our character's luck, but upping her armor.

This could literally mean that we have a new (or renamed) stat or modifier called "luck" or "lucky". I have no idea what it would do, and it could be very well that he was just being sarcastic here or something. If anyone has any better ideas on that, please save my skin and post them.

It appears, if it was that I missed this in previous declarations, that skills will once again be hotkey-able to the number row, as evidenced by this short splurge on the Barbarian's skill usage, and that Battle Cry, as in Diablo II, will be a party-boosting skill as well as a player-boosting one:

Quote from name="Michael Whertor" »

We were also equipped with two Barbarian skills, Ground Stomp and Battle Cry. The former was hot-keyed to the "2" and, when enabled, stunned everything around the Barbarian. Helpful, when Fallen are surrounding you and Fallen Shamen are tossing fireballs your way. The Battle Cry, on the "1" key, increased our armor class temporarily. If we were playing a multiplayer game, that Battle Cry effect would have been passed on to our party members. But we were doing this quest solo.

There was also a short heads-up on a few of the new monsters to come with this new desert area:

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surrounded by Fallen and Sand Wasps. Those Sand Wasps really suck, by the way, ejecting a quartet of mini-Wasps at our hero. Nasty.

We ran into a few other nasty things in the desert, the most annoying of which was the Desert Dervish, a spinning tornado of a beast with a strong knock-back attack.

From there, he made his closing comments, which should hopefully give some of you more faith in the unfinished game:

Quote from name="Michael McWhertor" »

From graphics to gameplay to interface adjustments, Blizzard seems to have delivered with Diablo III. The game looks fantastic, dripping with atmospheric detail and gorgeous visual effects. But honestly, it's the user interface changes that are most exciting. Blizzard has made the process of looting and equipping much more efficient, letting the player focus on the action.

Whether or not all of that is true, though, remains to be seen until we all have our own hands on the game.

To wrap this up, you can see some of the screen shots taken during the event here: http://www.diablo-3.net/gamescom-gallerie (thanks to popez), and here are two YouTube videos (compliments of Mackan and Tech):

If you happen to stumble across any of those lovely gentlemen (or ladies), please be sure to give them a good positive rep point for some truly awesome finds! I know I will. And, Bashiok is providing a thread on the Battle.net forums (viewed via our Developer Tracker here) with links to reviews about the Gamescon coverage, so keep checking that around the clock today for even more articles on this wonderful event.

You can see the original thread created by m0n0x1d3 here with many good information contributions by other posters.

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Then how else do you beat the game without some degree of rushing?

Rushing is taking advantage of the game in unintended ways.

If your not doing every quest and searching every side area,

I never said you had to do every single quest, but okay. If the game was designed better, then the quests should be advantageous or fun enough to make you want to do them. Since they obviously weren't made that way, respeccing should be an option to avoid having to do this kind of crap all over again when you don't really want to, or you wouldn't be rushing (skipping huge parts of the game, long series of quests or areas).

your rushing,

No, my definition of rushing is skipping through large parts of the game (quests and/or areas) using glitches., or things that are not supposed to happen in the game which should be patched, if you really want to know.

therefore your not playing the game as it was designed according to your logic.

Nice extreme there.

And you said my point was irrelevant.

Want to know why? Because I'm doing exactly what you're doing to everyone with a fair argument. I'm ignoring your good points.

Respecs are going to kill the game.

Right. If there was some way of betting you on it with the forum, I would gladly do it, because that is a lie.

I see people in the other thread listed a lot of the same valid reasons I listed in this thread,

Yes, and people that are appreciative of this type of upgrade in some form have managed to counter every one of them.

yet the only support still remains QQ why should I have to remake a character I screwed up on.

Acutally, there were way more, but, as I said, there's no point in rehashing the arguments to you because you are blind to anything you cannot accept.

This isnt D2, this is Pokeland!

Where's that? A place where they play Polka all the time? That's not even an argument, you're just making fun of other people's ideals. The only reason you would be winning anyone over with any of your arguments is because of personal attacks.

http://www.youtube.com/TheChatGem

Added some color and formatting, all of which were taken from the forum to reflect the two sites "perfectly". Also took the liberty of using scyber's new background as well. Thoughts?

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We've actually really wanted to do something like this for Diablo II, using channel bots to do SQL queries and update an on-site database. I think we've talked about it, anyway. It never really happened, though. Not really worth the effort with Diablo III coming soon^tm.

I'd like to think we'd do some kind of ladder if Blizzard won't. Or, even if they will. You never know. Diablo II didn't have a ladder until a while after launch. I think they just mean Ladder in the sense of USING the ladder to fix a crappy economy. I'm willing to bet they'll still have a, if not many and many different kinds of, ladder(s).

I think we'll be better able to make that assessment when we know more about how Diablo III will function with Battle.net.

I fixed your mistake. You forgot the trademark for soon^tm.

I see 'piracy' as the natural result of the expansion of the software market. It's not going anywhere. You're not stopping it unless you want to implement a police state. It's a lost battle. All anti-piracy laws need to go away, and software developers should switch to a more service-based model and *gasp* adjust to the market.

Did you seriously just say casual/smart? That's like on that Seinfeld where George has that date and she tells him to dress casual/smart and George asks Jerry what that is and Jerry tells him he doesn't know but that George doesn't have it.

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In my honest and sincere opinion, I think God bakes the best cookies.

You were close.

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I can't really remember if he actually said that, so provide a source.

He hasn't directly said it, but he's implying it all over the place.
With "religious fucks" for example. This, implies that ALL religious folk are fucks.


What you think is wrong and idiotic isn't the some.
Your argument is valid in this case, there's a difference between people.

Yes, you are acting like a 12 year old.
I don't stand up to him, I do however defend atheism something fierce.

He really isn't acting like a 12 year old.
He's trying to prevent Linkx from acting like a 12 year old, he seems to be content with insulting all religions out there without any kind of discretion.

What the fuck? When did ANYONE insult atheism?
There isn't anyone in here who ever said "FUCK ATHEISM!"
It's more a case of one person insulting all religions, and the rest of us saying "Dude, that's not fucking cool."
We can have this discussion, but it would be great if everyone could do so in a civilized manner.

Go to the Religion Vs. Science thread. I don't care NEARLY enough to do that myself.

Protect Atheism, just don't insult my religion while doing so

Good bye.

They're funny to most, not to some. There's a difference.

He's expressing what he believes by saying things like "fuck all religions". That's pretty insulting. That's not expressing your beliefs in a civilized manner.

I don't like someone doing whatever they want in every single thread I visit.

No, it's not rude. He's being rude, I'm just sick of it, and I'm the only one who ever calls out anyone on doing something wrong or idiotic. I'm acting like a 12 year old? You're fucking standing up for a guy on an internet forum. He's a grown ass guy, he can defend himself if need be; don't be pulling off this "he's my friend, you're annoying us, back off before I hit you!" bullshit. This wasn't directed at you, what's your business in this?

Saying "fuck all religions" in ANY kind of thread, is completely unacceptable. I don't know what you're saying here, you aren't make any sense, you're wrong on so many levels, it's ridiculous. Seriously bro, you're not cut out for this. Don't argue with me, it'll just drag us into long posts, ending with me completely destroying you.

Yar, Dae would rock ^^.

Me and Zhuge were discussing it as well (Yeah, we're excluded from your manager meetings, so we have our own minion meetings. Fuck you guys), and we thought that Umpa would probably make a solid choice. Also came to the conclusion that we shouldn't look for staff from the URT crew (goes without saying), and that there really aren't any other old staffies that would make good staff members again.

Genesis and Atru are both gone, Equinox and LinkX would just both be terrible choices with their recent behavior, and Siaynoq... no. Love the guy, but no.

Let me just start off by saying that it's obvious that none of you have read the Quran, bothered to really understand, and actually asked knowledgeable Muslims about it (I'm not a "knowledgeable Muslim", I just know more stuff about Islam than you guys). I'll explain what I can, though.

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So it doesn't say the right prophet killed a few hundred people?

The prophet Muhammad went to war. There were tribes back then, and when he was spreading his message, many naturally opposed him. What was he to do? Give up? Bribe them? He went to war, he won many, and he went into many cities. Do you know what he did when he got into those cities? He didn't loot. He didn't harm women. He didn't harm children. He didn't harm men. Even the people who didn't wish to convert to Islam didn't get treated ANY differently, save the tax they payed because they were now living in a Muslim place, or whatever.

Everyone in the West has this atrocious view with regards to the prophet Muhammad. That he was an adulterous, murdering pedophile. Why? I have no clue. He married a 12 year old girl, because her family had a lot of influence, and he saw in her the potential to keep the word of Islam alive after he was long gone. He didn't have sex with her, he didn't fondle her.

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As far as I understand it, there are two significant parts to the Quaran. The first part is generally viewed as the peaceful one, which is what many of you are referencing, and the second part is the more violent one. Pretty much the same concept with the Bible. First part was God killing everyone with fire and plagues, and the second part was all about redemption and Christ overturning the old law. Mephy would probably know the best, though. He lives in Lebanon or something.

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And Venom basically hit my thoughts on the head. Or something, I can never get that thing right. They were radicals, of course they were violent.

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But I've never read it, so I can't say for sure. Definitely ask someone who knows both ends of the story first.

I read the Quran. It's VERY difficult to understand a LOT of things. I speak Arabic. I've been speaking Arabic my entire life. I don't understand 85% of the Quran because its language is so difficult, the meanings are so difficult, and when you think something means this, it turns out that it means something ENTIRELY different. My mother is 51 years old. She read the Quran no less than 60 times, and there are still things she doesn't understand. You expect me to believe that a bunch of teenagers on a web forum get the Quran? You expect me to believe that ignorant piece of shit pastor, spreading hate and planting seeds of partition, truly knows Islam and the Quran? The Quran doesn't have violence in it. It says that God will have his revenge on the heretics. I know for sure that it says that God will punish them for not worshiping Him and for wronging Him. The parts people think spread absolute violence and terror, are VERY often completely and utterly misinterpreted. I don't remember a specific occasion where the Quran tells me to pick up a bomb, strap it to myself, and go kill infidels. Just because random morons in burkas say that God and the Quran told them to kill 2000 innocent people, it doesn't mean that THOSE people know what Islam and the Quran are about, too. It's a very delicate subject, man. I know that in the Old Testament, it was like..pure fucking carnage, but correct me if I'm wrong here, because I'm rusty on my Bible reading, but I think in Mark, someone asks Jesus if the word in the Old Testament is still the word of God, and Jesus says yes.

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I heard an interesting discussion today on the radio (yeah, I know, who listens to radio these days?). It was between some guy who tore out pages of the Quaran in front of the White House iirc, and some Islamic woman.

They guy said he tore out the pages that basically said Christians and Jews were infidels who were to be beaten, beheaded, imprisoned, etc, and then he said that prophet Muhammad was known for beheading quite a few people. Generally, he was opposing the notion that Islam was a peaceful religion.

Can anyone who knows something about Islam have some input on this?

Haha, what bullshit. What absolute and utter bullshit. She should've asked that guy if he ever read the Quran, and gotten and actual explanation from a knowledgeable Muslim (a Sheikh) rather than stick to the translation, which was more than likely handed to him by Terry Jones. I'm absolutely certain that no page in the Quran says that Christians are infidels who are to be beaten, imprisoned, beheaded, or whatever. It does say, though, that the Jewish people are traitors of God and shouldn't be liked, and that war should break with them. Guess why? Because in the Torah, it states that the Jews should occupy the land between the Nile, and the Euphrates. Guess who the Quran was aimed at? People in the Arabian Peninsula, back in the day when it was "released" if that's even the proper word. I have the utmost respect for ANY Jewish person, I'm merely telling you why the Quran states that. Muhammad wasn't known for beheading quite a few people, unless said people were murderers, traitors, or committed some form of major crime back then. It's kinda like the electric chair, but with less electricity, and more word blade pressure applied to the neck.

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Koran states that all religions are different aspects of viewing Allah, and that prohpets from these religions were on the right path but Muhammad was the true prophet. It also states that Islamic followers should embrace other religions as they all have one common goal. To reach enlightenment through the eyes of the lord and the words of the prophet.

Who told you that? I know that Muhammed said that there are different aspects in ISLAM of viewing Allah, certainly not "all religions". Just Islam, with Islam having several views on matters, but have ultimately the same goal.

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So it doesn't say the right prophet killed a few hundred people?

I'm sorry, I guess war against other tribes should have ended with some handshaking and a tequila party. The crusades killed thousands, millions even. The inquisition anyone? Only Muhammed's killings were more justified, but somehow, some people completely forget about that. They only like to focus on everything any Muslim has ever done, and on everything any one who CLAIMS to be a Muslim has ever done, and forget everything else. Wake up. They want you to hate Muslims and Islam because Islam is the biggest threat to Judaism. And guess who has a huge say in America?