Some classes may return depending on when the game takes place. If it is post Worldstone Destruction I believe the necro's and the barb's will be replayable. But if it is played during the sin wars, possibly the time when the Horadrim were prevelent, I would be curious to see what new character classes they create to fit in with that story line (possible different types of caster classes for example besides just "Mage/Sorceress").
I was just meaning the basic hack and slash nature of the god of war graphics/point of view. As far as Leap and things are concerned, all of that would be on the scripting portion of the game as opposed to the graphical part to change it from a console/controller game to a point/click mouse game.
God of War would be my choice. Some of the landscape rendering would have to be toned down a bit since classicly we can't jump, swim, or climb (assuming it isn't added in diablo 3 which would be pretty cool imo). Other than that it has good camera angles and a nice overhead view that can be brought in and out depending on the player.
I would hope if they do split it like Warcraft (Diablo III then WoD) they release Diablo III first. I'm not that excited about another MMO before/instead of another classic HacknSlash. The great thing about Diablo is it can be picked up and played whenever anybody wants to, it takes all of 5-10min on a char to be fighting a boss for phat lewts.
Not to say Blizzard can't try to make a HacknSlash MMO like Diablo, but when I think about it I can't name any. Not that my MMO experience is absolutely huge, but even from videos i've seen of other MMOs they don't fit it. The only one that comes to mind is Dungeon Runners, they call themselves an MMO but its really just Diablo with more acts basically.
That seems to be the consensus, most people from Diablo didnt go to WoW because they dont want to do the 15 buck a month, they would only release it as another MMO if they knew WoW was dying out. Scarey part is, is that since the expansion its actually started.
Oh I see now, I dunno, it is possible I suppose, I just don't think the graphics are as similar for them to be the same game. The things look alike just because they are part of the same world. Just basic graphical rendering would take them longer than it did since WoW PC/NPCs arent nearly as riged character models as the Warcraft3 counterparts.
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Trying to get back on topic, I promise :D, would people like Diablo3 to be another MMO?
I believe its quite logical to not want to make two supposedly 'different' games too much alike. I guess I just don't understand what it is you're saying. You say they were completely different games from the start, WoW infact being in production before Warcraft3 (as from Muttonshops quote of you), and you saying earlier in on page 18 that WoW would not be unless they didnt take the elements from Warcraft3.
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You have like a memory of a few minutes, i said WoW came from the further development of Warcraft 3
Edit: Added the quote/Re-read the full quote mutton posted, I see where it comes from now.
I probably won't post more than this because I don't care enough heh, but MMO's no doubt take alot longer to create than any other type of game, Also considering the entire landmass of the Burning Crusade and the upcoming expansion (Northrend) were already in game during launch (If you don't believe me WarcraftMovies.com has some oldschool exploration movies where people created their own private servers and ran around these areas). I find it quite hard to believe that WoW being released so quickly after Frozen Throne which was already a quick expansion that it was completely taken up and rendered while Warcraft3 was nearing completion, which would be where the aspect of being to much like an RPG would arise.
Not at all trying to fuel the flame, but the off-top discussion (what was actually legible) was actually interesting. While I don't agree with doppel, I can see how he would come to the conclusions that he did. Because I am a larger Warcraft fan than any other blizzard franchise I did follow the creation of all these games very closely (nothing that close untill the announce of Warhammer online).
Warcraft3 was always intended to be an RTS with the new idea of using an RPG hero setting, and --Important statement-- WoW was always its own seperate game that was under creation at the same time (though it is the same franchise and may be confused as a cool spinoff of an 'oops' idea, it is much like how starcraft or diablo was under development at the same time as the Warcraft RTS's, Fingolfin made a good point how Blizzard doesn't just 'accidently' create new games.)
WoW was never an accident or a spinoff of Blizzard going too crazy with the RPG aspects of an RTS. Because they were under creation at the same time, they did not want to overshadow either so they drew back the RPG aspects of Warcraft 3 so WoW could have the full attention of people interested in that sort of gameplay. They have similar graphics because they wanted to tie the two together as an 'oh cool' factor so people could look at one thing in either game and say "Oh cool, that looks like the other game".
It was mentioned earlier in the thread that WoW is not part of the RTS franchise, I believe the word that the person who made that assumption is looking for is "Genre". Franchise denotes the universe in which the characters of all associated games are in, whereas Genre denotes the style of the game such as RTS/MMO/FPS/Sports (God forbid they murder Warcraft like Capcom did Mega-man and make a Warcraft Soccer.)
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Now, going back on topic I would hope Diablo 3 is not an MMO. If anything, I would believe it is not Blizzard North's wish (which by the way most employees split off because they were dissatisfied with Blizzard farming WoW for a good year and a half instead of continuing game creation and started their own seperate production of a diablo-style game named Mythos). If you recall they canned production of 'Starcraft Ghost' because they wanted all of their production and attention on coming up with ideas/story lines/patches/and pumping out an expansion instead of continuing with a seperate game. If they do create a Diablo MMO it is Vivendi pulling the strings of Blizzard forcing the creation of another money farm (Vivendi owns rights to Blizzard and other gaming companys). I would really hope they create another 2-d world and 3-d PC/NPC characters just continuing the current story line or exploring the story line of the Sin Wars.
Oh that goes without saying that they are indeed different Genre, RTS is in no way like MMO, but earlier in the thread he made statements that made me unclear as to whether he believes WoW to be part of the actual Franchise.
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Not to say Blizzard can't try to make a HacknSlash MMO like Diablo, but when I think about it I can't name any. Not that my MMO experience is absolutely huge, but even from videos i've seen of other MMOs they don't fit it. The only one that comes to mind is Dungeon Runners, they call themselves an MMO but its really just Diablo with more acts basically.
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Trying to get back on topic, I promise :D, would people like Diablo3 to be another MMO?
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Edit: Added the quote/Re-read the full quote mutton posted, I see where it comes from now.
I probably won't post more than this because I don't care enough heh, but MMO's no doubt take alot longer to create than any other type of game, Also considering the entire landmass of the Burning Crusade and the upcoming expansion (Northrend) were already in game during launch (If you don't believe me WarcraftMovies.com has some oldschool exploration movies where people created their own private servers and ran around these areas). I find it quite hard to believe that WoW being released so quickly after Frozen Throne which was already a quick expansion that it was completely taken up and rendered while Warcraft3 was nearing completion, which would be where the aspect of being to much like an RPG would arise.
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Warcraft3 was always intended to be an RTS with the new idea of using an RPG hero setting, and --Important statement-- WoW was always its own seperate game that was under creation at the same time (though it is the same franchise and may be confused as a cool spinoff of an 'oops' idea, it is much like how starcraft or diablo was under development at the same time as the Warcraft RTS's, Fingolfin made a good point how Blizzard doesn't just 'accidently' create new games.)
WoW was never an accident or a spinoff of Blizzard going too crazy with the RPG aspects of an RTS. Because they were under creation at the same time, they did not want to overshadow either so they drew back the RPG aspects of Warcraft 3 so WoW could have the full attention of people interested in that sort of gameplay. They have similar graphics because they wanted to tie the two together as an 'oh cool' factor so people could look at one thing in either game and say "Oh cool, that looks like the other game".
It was mentioned earlier in the thread that WoW is not part of the RTS franchise, I believe the word that the person who made that assumption is looking for is "Genre". Franchise denotes the universe in which the characters of all associated games are in, whereas Genre denotes the style of the game such as RTS/MMO/FPS/Sports (God forbid they murder Warcraft like Capcom did Mega-man and make a Warcraft Soccer.)
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Now, going back on topic I would hope Diablo 3 is not an MMO. If anything, I would believe it is not Blizzard North's wish (which by the way most employees split off because they were dissatisfied with Blizzard farming WoW for a good year and a half instead of continuing game creation and started their own seperate production of a diablo-style game named Mythos). If you recall they canned production of 'Starcraft Ghost' because they wanted all of their production and attention on coming up with ideas/story lines/patches/and pumping out an expansion instead of continuing with a seperate game. If they do create a Diablo MMO it is Vivendi pulling the strings of Blizzard forcing the creation of another money farm (Vivendi owns rights to Blizzard and other gaming companys). I would really hope they create another 2-d world and 3-d PC/NPC characters just continuing the current story line or exploring the story line of the Sin Wars.
Edit: Added the info about Starcraft Ghost
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