Even though your sentries will only cast your hatred spenders when you do, the other passive (which increases your hatred generators and some hatred spenders' dmg by x%) is probably going go make it worth playing.

The downside to that is you won't be as tough as you used to and reflects damage is going to be a pain in the ass.

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I don't really understand your question but I'll give you my reasoning which will probably answer it:

To calculate the dps during the different buffs I divided the total damage that was dealt to the guardian (obtained by the difference in RG hp) by the time it took to deal the damage. So knowing that there were different phases (one with the channelling pylon, one with channelling and power, one with power and one without pylons).

So this wasn't done by theoretically calculating dps but by checking effective dps on the video. So all pylons were accounted for and that's why the dps seems weird: the barbs aren't doing 4 times their normal dps under the power pylon but only twice their normal dps. I don't know what is the cause of this and I'm actually trying different things on the PTR.

My first thought is that maybe the power pylon damage boost is additively stacking with the IK6 damage boost (I haven't been able to find a power pylon on the PTR yet and it's down for now so I'll try later).

My second thought is that maybe the damage bonus from the power pylon is stacking additively with the support's damage bonuses but if that was the case we would have seen it already on live servers and I've never heard of it. Maybe you could confirm this as you're a support and are more knowledgeable than me about this.

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Actually the first dps calculation was already false (11 trillion divided by 99 isn't equal to 56 billion dps).

If you were to divide 11 091 623 018 496 by 69 you would obtain 160 748 159 688.

Yup almost 161 billion dps (they had a power pylon and a channelling pylon but that's still very high).

Let's check how much dps they had with and without the pylons (I'll use MannerCookie's video timestamps here):

These numbers are approximations of their real dps but should give a good understanding of barb dps on ptr at this moment.

To sum it up:

Now the numbers seem weird knowing the relations they have : dps under power pylon should be 4 times the normal dps but here it's actually twice the normal dps. This is really weird and might be explained if power pylon damage boost was additive to IK6 damage boost. I'm not sure if other people have tested so I'll probably give it a try on PTR.

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Actually this is a GR trial build using The Compass Rose and The Traveler's Pledge.

No generator is needed and you can go full offensive. The Grim Reaper rune isn't only used for the exploit (which has already been hotfixed) it's a pretty solid rune if you already have another dh using the Contagion rune or the Valley of Death rune.

By the way RCR has been a standard stat for M6 build for a while now.

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He shouldn't if no char of his has ever cleared GR45 in a group.

It's not about being a zDPS it's about being able to start where you left off in a group on whichever character you are.

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You are completely mistaken here.

This is why your math is wrong:

Let's say we're talking about GR level N where N is the level of the current GR.

Now when you say that mob hp goes 17% higher relatively to the previous GR this means that:

HP(GR N+1) = 1.17*HP(GR N)

Now by recursivity this also means that : HP(GR N+7) = 1.17^7*HP(GR N)

Now please ask any computer or calculator how much is 1.17^7. To spare you the time it is 3.001...

Which means that a GR that is 7 levels higher than another has mobs that have 3 times the health of the other GR's mobs.

Now if you still don't believe me please check this out : GR HP/DMG scaling chart

The damage scaling column is probably outdated but the hp one is still good to use. Now you can compare 2 GR that have a 7 lvl difference and you'll see that the highest one has 3 times the hp of the other.

By the way I never assumed that 117% of 117% was 134%.

So yes if IK6 was nerfed to 100% you would still be able to do GR55 (seeing that highest GR atm is 62 I believe).

I haven't tested and don't want to spend 6 hours in the queue just for that but you'd probably be able to do a GR50 or so only with GR4 and WW4.

People don't seem to see how powerful perma wotb with all runes really is.

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Could you elaborate ? There's no way I could magically find out how it is flawed.

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Yeah the best builds are actually based on multiple sets.

But even IK by itself is very strong. I cleared GR55 pretty easily (I could probably do GR56 or GR57) with a basic whirlwind build using only IK and I didn't even have a Skull Grasp.

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For people saying that the nerf to 100% is too low: you would be able to clear GR 54-55 with that.

For the math:

Damage with IK atm = 600% (100% + 500%)

Damage with IK (considering 6pc is 100% bonus) = 200% (100% + 100%)

Effective nerf = 600/200 = 3 times less damage

Now monster health goes 17% higher at every grift level. Meaning that a difference of 7 levels makes for a difference of nearly 3 times the health

So if barbs can clear GR61 on PTR, they'd be able to clear GR61-7 = GR54 with a 100% IK 6pc

By the way no IK 6pc would probably be able to clear 49 or higher.

Having "only" a 100% would keep barbs in a good position while retaining the build diversity the barb has atm. It would even make the barb the best class in solo with wiz.

So people, stop crying about 6pc being as "low" as 100%, it still is pretty good (even though all runes perma wotb + perma ancient is already very good for a 4pc).

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Zdog will still be stunlocking bosses, don't say goodbye to zdog so fast.

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Tried the UE set with some basic MS builds and I gotta say it was pretty fun and effective (in T6 at least) but I already liked the M6 MS build.

Almost cleared a GR48 with a MS build but I had a poor rift and some items/skills were clearly not optimal.

The UE EA builds look very good on paper but what I'm afraid of is the pain of getting a good Kridershot. I have only seen 3 of them on more than 700 paragon levels and none of them was ancient. The best one is a poor 2k7 dps.

Seems like getting one with all the right stats will be one of the hardest things to get in D3, probably as hard if not harder than a well-rolled star of azkaranth. It would still take quite a lot of time if it was farmable like the hellfire amulet.

So I'm not quite sure of what I'd like to see on live servers: the build looks quite powerful (what about 4m GR btw ?) but getting the right items will be very very hard.

I probably won't be able to get a good meticulous bolts on PTR (salvaged the ones I had) so I'll stick to the MS builds and see how far I can push them with what I got.

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Anyway it's just a hoax: someone taking conduit pylon just like I expected it to be ...

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