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Some people think it will even be tomorrow. They did say patch 2.1.2 was already done and was supposed to be out before the holidays. IMO I don't think it will be. But I do believe next Tuesday it will be released. But on the other hand with the new set changes how could they implement that without throwing out S1 leader boards?? Witch to me I could care less about leader boards but to everyone that does, it will be a low blow. Blizzard kinda put them self's in a bad spot.



Saying it was done and was supposed to be out before the holidays, was a bad choice of words. They said it wasn't released due to the fact there wouldn't be anyone around to do maintenance in case something went wrong. But if they make the choice to not release the patch for another whole month? That will just make them look even worst, unprofessional and they gave everyone false information.

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SS/Firebird OH on PTR does a lot more damage than a furnace from what I have tested between the two. It Wasn't even close, especially on single target enemies. SS/OH does open up some build diversity and gives more overall stat boost. But like said above, not much has changed. TnT is still mostly worthless since AS doesn't scale the damage, magefist outperforms it and even using Firebird gloves opens up a couple other set build options and a couple other gear slots open up to go with FB.



These are just my results from the PTR and What I have tested quite thoroughly. Not bashing or anything.

I have 1600+ rifts completed. Have only had the cow rift once. I don't fully understand why blizz decided to make it so rare? You don't even get that much XP from it and don't really get any reward?? Not sure how much XP you get from it, but even if it gave you 25bil experience or more?..in the end that's not that much at all compared to the paragon level system.



My second point though..why does blizz not add more things like this? There could be plenty of special and fun events they could add into the randomness of rifts.



Regular Shrine/chest events..should already be in them.

Special shrine/chest event.

Mini boss's in the rifts at randomness

Random Mini games? I'm sure there could be some fun quick possible ideas with this.

Blood shard rift? This is one that would fall under very rare occasions. (once every 100-200 rifts?)

Buff experience rifts(200%) thru out the whole rift.

Legendary buff rifts(X%) thru out the whole rift. Once again this would be on the very rare occasions. (Once every 100-200 rifts?)

I'm sure there are plenty of other ideas. My best guess is, blizzard hasn't done anything like this because it will kill the Grift system. But IMO, I'm not a big fan of the grifts. Not that there all that bad, but because there is no reward at the end. Nothing changes with the loot the higher you go, you just get more of the same crappy legendarys 90% of the time. Once you level your gems high enough it is almost impossible to go higher. Doesn't take to long to reach that point. For me, I'm not a leader board person in D3, because once again no rewards? So IMO leader boards mean nothing.



I'm not trying to bash here or anything. Just throwing out some ideas and my opinion on the game, in some areas I think could be improved on.

anyone?

I'm trying to prepare for the patch saving up gear and planning on what to do. Using a SS still, I'm a tad confused involving both of the fire runes for the skill. Since they are both DOT attacks and don't land critical hits, how is the IAS increasing the damage dealt by the hydra? From what I understand, all the hydra is doing is hitting more enemies quicker, but the hydra's are not dealing more damage from IAS increase . From what I read people are saying hydra's attacks stack now? This is what I don't understand and am looking too find out.

Last time I played the PTR the Damage range on off hands while being an ancient, didn't have a higher min-max range. It was the same as it is now.

I 100% agree Aggrofall.

More and more post's are popping up about this subject. I hope blizzard takes notice and decides to add more with Ancients items.

Roll 1 more property than normal legendarys? I think a lot of people agree, just making the stat rolls on them increase is boring. Especially since it doesn't effect % stats such as Elemental Damage, Attack Speed, Crit chance and Crit Damage. I think this would give them more of a EPIC feeling when you do find one. Makes your character stronger, also provides some build changes. It even gives some more longevity to the item hunt. Since even if you get a good one, you now have that 5th property or in some rare case's 6th property to get the roll you want to improve your character even more. Would like to get everyone's thoughts!!

Does anyone else think Blizzard needs to improve them more? Just increasing stat rolls! Witch, in my opinion they already need to increase the gap jump between them to start. To me it seems lazy, very weak and once again a lack of depth. Starting this thread to get everyone's opinions and ideas! Feel free to shout out anything that you think can improve ancient items and keep it in a positive manner please.

Thanks Detruncate. I just think if they are going to stay away from adding a new rarer( much rarer) tier of items that you can only have two equipped or something of that nature. They need too add more things LIKE gifts, add more too paragon system. Instead of finding rare items or better version of the ones you already have, create other ways of people too improve what they have and work off of. Not saying my wiz is the best out there. But the only item I really need and hunt for is a Witching hour..Since RoS haven't seen on. Would like to know there's more ways out there too improve.

It would function has a big buff to everyone. But I know where you are coming from for the DH. trifecta on rings would put your guys DPS thru the roof even more . Another idea would just be for ammy's. Since blizzard has made elemental dmg huge. Could be another way too go.

Gift's on jewelry? I think this would be a very nice addition to the game. 1. It gives players something to look forward too and options when they find a gift or have multiples. 2. Gives some more build diversity and can give players more DPS and toughness. 3. Would let players go a little deeper in higher rifts do too the stat boost and gear options that would come available.

What are your thoughts guys? This has probably been talked about already. Whats the Pros and Cons this could lead too?

Thanks for the info. Good to know!

Would like to run some Grifts with you sometime. Add me if you like, I'm a fire mage. russell3773#1387

I wasn't saying just for the IAS, I was saying it would give the furnace more DPS? it would increase it to 3800DPS ,maybe a little more. Wouldn't that give you more damage on your ticks? I'm not trying too give miss leading info. I just thought it would.