erav2000, you seem to think that this group should be working their asses off to get infernal machines just so they can open portals and carry people. Why? Why should anyone do something like that? What benefit would there be? That good feeling in their chest because they did something nice for someone? Are you fucking stupid?
Of course the OP and his community are getting free Uber runs out of this. That's kind of the deal. They carry you through Torment 6 kills and, in return, they get a free shot at loot. OH MY GOD. HOW HORRIBLE OF THEM!!!
Seriously, do you not understand that the vast majority of players cannot handle Torment 6? Or even Torment 5? Can you not comprehend that those players can join this guy's groups and benefit from this? Is it really so bad that the carrier gets free runs in exchange for carrying someone? Do you not understand the concept of "mutual benefit?"
You don't like the way they do it? Then don't fucking join! There are thousands of other players who would love the bonus drop chance that this guy is giving them.
Oh man, you're soooo much better than everyone else because you spend WEEKS farming stuff instead of 3-5 hours. Your problem is that you think that your playstyle is the right one and that everyone else is doing it wrong. Well, sorry, but you're wrong.
How about this: I've farmed plenty of keys and killed plenty of uber bosses... but I've never killed them on Torment 6, nor am I geared enough to. If I saved up those keys and joined this guy's group, I'd be killing them on Torment 6, which I am not capable of doing on my own.
He'd be helping me kill them on the highest difficulty and, in return, he gets another shot at Uber drops. That's called "mutual benefit." Just because you and your friends wouldn't benefit from this arrangement doesn't mean that there aren't thousands of other players who would benefit from it.
If you can kill stuff on Torment 6 then do so and let other people who have less gear/skill enjoy this guy's service. It's not leeching. Get a clue.
All that I'm getting out of your post is that you're an entitled whiner who can't consider things from other people's perspectives. You might want to fix that before you chime in, next time.
edit: P.S. I perfectly understood everything you tried to explain to me. I know how RiF works and I know that the most demanding aspect of Uber bosses is farming the keys. This is all very obvious and you must have a hugely over-inflated opinion of your own intelligence if you think I need it explained to me.
P.S.S. I also understand that the concept of team-work doesn't apply to solo-players. I tend to play solo, but I would happily join a group if it meant that I could be killing Torment 6 ubers instead of Torment 3-4. It's not leeching if we're both receiving benefit. But, go ahead, keep telling everyone how they're getting screwed over -- we're clearly not smart enough to decide that for ourselves.
do you also open portals (ref. to "free" in thread title) or just leech on naive users ?
Excuse me? You do realize that he's offering people Torment 6 clears of Uber bosses, right? The vast majority of players can't even kill T4-T5 Uber bosses and these guys are doing T6. Even if they did require people to provide infernal machines, how exactly would that be "leeching"?
Do you not understand how services work? They provide you something, often in exchange for something else. In this case, players aren't paying anything more than they would have to pay to do it solo, so there is no loss to the people taking advantage of this service.
To suggest that they're "leeching" off "naive" players shows that you're the naive one. This service is 100% positive, so don't ask backhanded questions like that.
(and, no, I haven't taken advantage of their service. I'm not sitting here championing them because it benefits me. I'm doing so because that question was incredibly rude.)
I mean, it's like reading is hard or something.
Of course the OP and his community are getting free Uber runs out of this. That's kind of the deal. They carry you through Torment 6 kills and, in return, they get a free shot at loot. OH MY GOD. HOW HORRIBLE OF THEM!!!
Seriously, do you not understand that the vast majority of players cannot handle Torment 6? Or even Torment 5? Can you not comprehend that those players can join this guy's groups and benefit from this? Is it really so bad that the carrier gets free runs in exchange for carrying someone? Do you not understand the concept of "mutual benefit?"
You don't like the way they do it? Then don't fucking join! There are thousands of other players who would love the bonus drop chance that this guy is giving them.
Oh man, you're soooo much better than everyone else because you spend WEEKS farming stuff instead of 3-5 hours. Your problem is that you think that your playstyle is the right one and that everyone else is doing it wrong. Well, sorry, but you're wrong.
He'd be helping me kill them on the highest difficulty and, in return, he gets another shot at Uber drops. That's called "mutual benefit." Just because you and your friends wouldn't benefit from this arrangement doesn't mean that there aren't thousands of other players who would benefit from it.
If you can kill stuff on Torment 6 then do so and let other people who have less gear/skill enjoy this guy's service. It's not leeching. Get a clue.
All that I'm getting out of your post is that you're an entitled whiner who can't consider things from other people's perspectives. You might want to fix that before you chime in, next time.
edit: P.S. I perfectly understood everything you tried to explain to me. I know how RiF works and I know that the most demanding aspect of Uber bosses is farming the keys. This is all very obvious and you must have a hugely over-inflated opinion of your own intelligence if you think I need it explained to me.
P.S.S. I also understand that the concept of team-work doesn't apply to solo-players. I tend to play solo, but I would happily join a group if it meant that I could be killing Torment 6 ubers instead of Torment 3-4. It's not leeching if we're both receiving benefit. But, go ahead, keep telling everyone how they're getting screwed over -- we're clearly not smart enough to decide that for ourselves.
Do you not understand how services work? They provide you something, often in exchange for something else. In this case, players aren't paying anything more than they would have to pay to do it solo, so there is no loss to the people taking advantage of this service.
To suggest that they're "leeching" off "naive" players shows that you're the naive one. This service is 100% positive, so don't ask backhanded questions like that.
(and, no, I haven't taken advantage of their service. I'm not sitting here championing them because it benefits me. I'm doing so because that question was incredibly rude.)