I stop reading your posts shortly after I realise there is actually effort involved in an attempt to unravel the bullshit that spills from your over inflated head onto your keyboard.
Feel free to let me know when the "unravelling" process has completed so that a proper argument can finally be presented; all the required information is within the first few posts.
In the future, please ensure there's a thorough understanding of the domain before attempting to debate; at present it's like dealing with a toddler trying to explain gravity based on visual cues and personal experiences.
Inflation - Remember, your talking about a game that will spawn infinite gold. The longer the game is running, the more gold that will exist, which means, the more inflation.
Sinks - Like I previously mentioned, sinks are totally irrelevant. Even if 99% of the gold people farmed goes towards sinks, its the relative rate of hording that causes inflation. Whether a rich player has 500 gold or 500000000 gold, the number itself is irrelevant. After the games up for 2 years, and people have 2 years worth of gold stashed away, guess what, it bites a big one to be a noob trying to buy items against people with such a head start doesnt it?
You do realize these two statements contradict each other, right?
I don't think those are irrelevant points, do I still sound like a troll sir?
Yes, you do; that or you're just running on emotion.
No, I'm not saying every rich person on JSP donated bundles of money. Some of them did, thats a fact. Theres also a lottery game on jsp, some people made some pretty nice hits on that over the years. Some people also just played a lot, got lucky drops, and made some decent fg trades on the forums.
People also have made fg by creating sigs for people to use on jsp and selling them, or from selling in game services, such as rushing or power leveling.
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The parameters of my argument did not include a yearly scope; I suggest you actually read the statement I made before making (yet another) completely irrelevant remark.
I am not chosing to ignore any points you made. I am chosing to disagree with them. Your claim that rich people on jsp are corrupt is completely baseless, so I have provided for you(see above) ways that people have amassed stockpiles of fg on d2jsp. Perhaps if you had more of an argument other then a false, baseless accusation I would agree with you, so until you can produce a little more don't act like I'm incapable of comprehending a simple argument, why I chose to disagree with it becuase its weak.
Aside from that, I was simply pointing out the the jsp economy that you seem to dislike holds some striking similarities to what the D3 economy seems to be shaping into, leading to the same type of inflate and hording based currency economy d2jsp evolved into over the years.
You're either choosing to ignore them, or you fail to understand the basic tenets of economics as you have yet to provide any form of insightful argument and continue to resort to your own cavil methodology.
What's the issue you'd like addressed? I gave my view on jsp, and I've been a user there for years. What would you like me to further explain to you? Calling me irrelevant or irrational isn't exactly a good debate point when you haven't made mention of anything in my previous post.
Inflation, zero currency control and a lack of sinks are the primary issues; none of which you have even touched on. Why would I remark on something that is irrelevant? You're starting to sound like a troll.
In the case of jsp they do give fg for making donations ya know. Not that I'm saying this is cool or anything, but its the way it is...
Also like I previously mentioned there are people on there that are just rich from putting a lot of time and effort into trading for fg over the years.
Is there anything else you'd like me to explain to you? I'd really enjoy helping you see the whole picture rather then have a narrow view of it, and would appreciate if you have anything constructive to add other then false claims of corruption.
Are you honestly suggesting all these people donated thousands of dollars to an individual in exchange for psuedo-currency?
We're not talking about years we're talking about months; introducing the precedent for current day activity.
If you're having this much trouble understanding the premise of my argument that you must continually choose to ignore points I bring up and wander off into your own little world then I do not see any reason for you to continue here.
Clearly all the richest on jsp are corrupt. None of them are just people that have happened to be jsp members for a long time and have devoted a lot of time to trading for fg.
I think what you actually have a sour taste in your mouth over is a currency based economy in which nobody ever loses anything, and there is never any sort of reset. The older richer players continue to horde currency while it becomes tougher and tougher for a new player to amass enough currency to buy a top notch item with, as those with the currency only want the best stuff and are willing to pay a lot. Over time it sucks more and more to be a poor noob on this site.
Again, unless you're going to provide a rational retort (or an event relevant remark) do not bother replying; rambling on about the semantics of a flawed economy instead of addressing the issues; relevant how?
Yes ... a ~60000% difference within a specific subset of users during the first few months of operation can just be attributed to accumlation over time; I'm sure.
P.S., I hope the redundant information has helped, Seth.
Clearly all the richest on jsp are corrupt. None of them are just people that have happened to be jsp members for a long time and have devoted a lot of time to trading for fg.
I think what you actually have a sour taste in your mouth over is a currency based economy in which nobody ever loses anything, and there is never any sort of reset. The older richer players continue to horde currency while it becomes tougher and tougher for a new player to amass enough currency to buy a top notch item with, as those with the currency only want the best stuff and are willing to pay a lot. Over time it sucks more and more to be a poor noob on this site.
This design is strikingly similar to diablo 3 economy. Currency based, nobody will ever risk losing gear, and there wont ever be any resets. After a while d3 gold will be just as lame as fg on jsp.
Unless you're going to provide a rational retort (or even an at all relevant remark) then don't bother replying.
I'm not sure if this post really merits being titled a "guide"; it's common sense.
Gather resources.
Exploit resources.
Flourish.
I feel the same way. I havent played since 1.10 and i got no idea what this forum gold bs is.
It's a frivilous placebo currency adhering to zero economic methodologies facilitated by d2jsp.org; it's currently liquid due to the lack of inflation control, sinks and corruption (it's no coincidence those with authority on the website are rich). You may aswell sell your items for pebbles.
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In the future, please ensure there's a thorough understanding of the domain before attempting to debate; at present it's like dealing with a toddler trying to explain gravity based on visual cues and personal experiences.
You do realize these two statements contradict each other, right?
Yes, you do; that or you're just running on emotion.
The parameters of my argument did not include a yearly scope; I suggest you actually read the statement I made before making (yet another) completely irrelevant remark.
You're either choosing to ignore them, or you fail to understand the basic tenets of economics as you have yet to provide any form of insightful argument and continue to resort to your own cavil methodology.
Are you honestly suggesting all these people donated thousands of dollars to an individual in exchange for psuedo-currency?
We're not talking about years we're talking about months; introducing the precedent for current day activity.
If you're having this much trouble understanding the premise of my argument that you must continually choose to ignore points I bring up and wander off into your own little world then I do not see any reason for you to continue here.
Yes ... a ~60000% difference within a specific subset of users during the first few months of operation can just be attributed to accumlation over time; I'm sure.
P.S., I hope the redundant information has helped, Seth.
It's a frivilous placebo currency adhering to zero economic methodologies facilitated by d2jsp.org; it's currently liquid due to the lack of inflation control, sinks and corruption (it's no coincidence those with authority on the website are rich). You may aswell sell your items for pebbles.