This thread is the rhetorical equivalent of a round-a-bout. People driving in and out, some staying a while before driving off then back in later, but the landscape never changes.
Go look at the poll. The overwhelming majority view this as a positive change. Blizzard did as well or they wouldn't be implementing it.
I guess you can keep going on and on citing your right 'to discussing the game as much as I want', but really, you've exhausted your opinion about a dozen times over now.
Good point Seth, though what I think is being overlooked is a very simple fact:
Whether someone really digs doing cows / Uber-leveling / whatever, whether that's what they think is fun or what they're used to by now or whatever else, it's not how the game was intended to be played. Just because someone (or even a lot of someones) finds a bug and exploits it for months or even years and has a blast of it...well, guess what: Blizzard doesn't owe you to let you continue exploiting it.
I don't intend this to be considering flaming and I'm genuinely not directing the following statement toward any one person in this thread (though I certainly could), but honestly you'd have to be an absolute, childish idiot to think this is what Blizzard wants, how they expect it to be played -- i.e., leveling to 90 in an hour or whatever it is that some people do.
It's not what was intended. Ever. And the continued exploiting of this kind of stunning rush ability has all but ruined the competitive entertainment of Ladder Play.
If you don't want to play through the game in at least some remote manner of how it was intended to be played, if that bores you because you've done it all before and it's not fun anymore, then don't play it. But do not whine about how a new patch introducing new aspects to the game with at least a semblance of intention of making it fun again when played properly is spoiling your buggy fun.
Sanctuary quite literally is Blizzard's world, and you just play in it.
Edit: The 'you' here is not intended to be directed at Seth; it's an ambiguous directing.
What's funny is that he seems to be all about people having to deal with 'screwing up', while at the same time advocating for ridiculous rushing, which basically negates anyone having to 'deal' with anything.
Just imagine Nick with a 'Don't Feed the Troll' sign and this thread would have gone / will go much smoother. I can't believe this thread is still going, it should have been nuked from orbit around page 4.
We'll see how much longer grief-style PK remains part of D2 -- it's already all but announced to be removed altogether in D3 in lieu of a more fleshed-out PvP system, which is what should have been in place in D2 from the beginning.
You don't dictate what is and what isn't Diablo 2. Get the hell out yourself and go play something else.
I think what dictates what is and what isn't Diablo 2 is the core foundations of the game that have made it a popular game since its release. Stripping away at these foundations, which respeccing is doing, is making Diablo 2 not Diablo 2. Lets change the name to Wahhhhblo because its far more easier to cry for change to make everything easier then to learn the game.
It will fail for you and will stop you from playing both game before of the horrible close mindedness you have everywhere and your "hardcore" thinking. You'll just end up not playing either D2 and D3, thats called "your loss", none of the games will fail.
Actually it will be your loss. Due to your close mindedness in refusing to learn the current system thats been successful since the release of the game, as evident by the diablo series cult following, this game will be ruined. It will also be Blizzard's loss, as if they manage to ruin D2 enough, a lot of long time, hardcore fans will probably be smart enough not to waste the 50 bucks on D3.
Maybe we should keep the 2D graphics! I mean, D2 had 2D graphics, and it was successful. I guess that means we should keep the same graphics 'engine' for D3, or else it will be ruined, right? Right?
Wasn't this already confirmed somewhere else? As in its been common knowledge for some time?
Nope, this is 100% new. In fact until this announcement the only indication that had been revealed of any change whatsoever was that they 'might' be expanding the stash.
I'd put money even now that they've considered the balance issues that will be created by allowing re-specs; that is to say, realizing it'll be 'easier' because people can pump skills as they level early on instead of saving them and going through the game with a bunch of 1-point skills.
I think this is a good thing, too -- offering more reason to use / pump up some of those earlier skills. The reasoning of basically saving points until the last tier or so of skills has always bugged me.
If nothing else it'll be a way to sort of see how it will 'feel' in D3, as re-specs will be a feature.
I get both sides to this, but honestly it's gotten to the point where it's not appealing to have to start over (especially since I don't rush-rush) and level for hours and hours just because I want to try something out.
There's a line to be crossed as far as making to too easy / frequent, but it sounds like they're going to keep it limited in some manner, so I'm not worried about that happening.
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Go look at the poll. The overwhelming majority view this as a positive change. Blizzard did as well or they wouldn't be implementing it.
I guess you can keep going on and on citing your right 'to discussing the game as much as I want', but really, you've exhausted your opinion about a dozen times over now.
Whether someone really digs doing cows / Uber-leveling / whatever, whether that's what they think is fun or what they're used to by now or whatever else, it's not how the game was intended to be played. Just because someone (or even a lot of someones) finds a bug and exploits it for months or even years and has a blast of it...well, guess what: Blizzard doesn't owe you to let you continue exploiting it.
I don't intend this to be considering flaming and I'm genuinely not directing the following statement toward any one person in this thread (though I certainly could), but honestly you'd have to be an absolute, childish idiot to think this is what Blizzard wants, how they expect it to be played -- i.e., leveling to 90 in an hour or whatever it is that some people do.
It's not what was intended. Ever. And the continued exploiting of this kind of stunning rush ability has all but ruined the competitive entertainment of Ladder Play.
If you don't want to play through the game in at least some remote manner of how it was intended to be played, if that bores you because you've done it all before and it's not fun anymore, then don't play it. But do not whine about how a new patch introducing new aspects to the game with at least a semblance of intention of making it fun again when played properly is spoiling your buggy fun.
Sanctuary quite literally is Blizzard's world, and you just play in it.
Edit: The 'you' here is not intended to be directed at Seth; it's an ambiguous directing.
Just imagine Nick with a 'Don't Feed the Troll' sign and this thread would have gone / will go much smoother. I can't believe this thread is still going, it should have been nuked from orbit around page 4.
And yes, you will be the crybaby. Newsflash.
Waaaah, I can't PK n00bs anymore
Waaaah, I can't make l00tz rushing pplz to 80 in 15 minutes
Exactly. That's half the point. Now return to the cesspools you scurried out of.
Maybe we should keep the 2D graphics! I mean, D2 had 2D graphics, and it was successful. I guess that means we should keep the same graphics 'engine' for D3, or else it will be ruined, right? Right?
Nope, this is 100% new. In fact until this announcement the only indication that had been revealed of any change whatsoever was that they 'might' be expanding the stash.
I think this is a good thing, too -- offering more reason to use / pump up some of those earlier skills. The reasoning of basically saving points until the last tier or so of skills has always bugged me.
If nothing else it'll be a way to sort of see how it will 'feel' in D3, as re-specs will be a feature.
I get both sides to this, but honestly it's gotten to the point where it's not appealing to have to start over (especially since I don't rush-rush) and level for hours and hours just because I want to try something out.
There's a line to be crossed as far as making to too easy / frequent, but it sounds like they're going to keep it limited in some manner, so I'm not worried about that happening.