I didn't believe that Diablo became Tathamet in the first place. I don't see this as possible within the lore. Following his death, the seven heads of Tathamet spawned the Great Evils. His headless corpse became the Burning Hells. I don't see how Tathamet could become whole again. If Diablo did transform into Tathamet, wouldn't he have been unstoppable? Wouldn't Sanctuary have burned? I don't think that anyone but Anu himself would be capable of stopping Tathamet. Plus, if Diablo did become Tathamet during the events of Diablo III, I'm sure that they wouldn't have left us guessing. Shit would have been explicitly stated during the narrative of Act IV.
Yeah that's one thing that they did kind of strangely, hyping Diablo as the Prime Evil and this super mega badass. On other forums, I've seen people saying things like 'lol how can there be an expansion, we killed the prime evil' 'yeah right, we killed the prime evil and now we gonna fight the sin lieutenants or something?'
They should have done a better job of explaining what exactly the Prime Evil was in context of Diablo's 'prime evil' aka all the evils in his body. (Or Leah's body I guess technically ) Especially since they have Tyrael randomly mentioning Tathamet (which like you said, should have roflstomped whatever went against him, unless we are to believe one Nephalem is that powerful) when asked what the Prime Evil refers to. I guess that may be intentional though, as it seems 'prime evil' seems to refer to a few different things, like in that quote from one of the devs the 7 Evils are all 'prime evils,' the 3 brothers are also the 'prime evils,' then of course the 7 Evils in one body is the 'prime evil' and Tathamet was the original Prime Evil.
I don't think that all seven of the Great Evils are considered Prime Evils. Just Mephisto, Diablo, and Baal. Tathamet was the original Prime Evil, and Diablo became the Prime Evil. You're right, this is confusing! Tyrael mentioning Tathamet doesn't help either. I think that they could have done a better job explaining this within the narrative. Regardless, I am very impressed with the story of Diablo III and the way that it's told. I am sure that the first expansion will elaborate on everything that has happened regarding Adria and the Black Soulstone. Also, I think that both you and I know for certain that Diablo did not become Tathamet.
At least with DiabloFans, you know the people here should be, well, fans of Diablo, and if they are wandering into the Lore & Storyline forum, they should be interested in the lore and story.
I'm glad that I've taken the time to get into a discussion such as this.
'At the End of Days, angels and demons will fight on the land of man.' but she has never seen angels or demons so she doesn't believe it, but at the same time she closes her eyes and sees these nightmares and doesn't know if they are real or just her uncle's stories blending together."
(Yep, called it that the End of Days isn't fully manifested )
"For the first time all the essences of these 7 prime evils now, go into Leah and she turns into Diablo and becomes the one prime evil."
(That's a direct quote, confirming that the Diablo in game was not the Prime Evil aka Tathamet, and just all the 'essences' supercharging Diablo?)
I didn't believe that Diablo became Tathamet in the first place. I don't see this as possible within the lore. Following his death, the seven heads of Tathamet spawned the Great Evils. His headless corpse became the Burning Hells. I don't see how Tathamet could become whole again. If Diablo did transform into Tathamet, wouldn't he have been unstoppable? Wouldn't Sanctuary have burned? I don't think that anyone but Anu himself would be capable of stopping Tathamet. Plus, if Diablo did become Tathamet during the events of Diablo III, I'm sure that they wouldn't have left us guessing. Shit would have been explicitly stated during the narrative of Act IV.
So this is Diablo's plan he has been going after for centuries. The whole 'Adria marked the souls' thing? Well, for one, do we actually trust her at her word? No, not after what she does and the fact we have been 'played like a fiddle' by Diablo the entire time.
Adria has undoubtably been lying through her teeth. We shouldn't trust anything we have heard from her. I went from loving Adria as a character in Diablo to despising her as a character in Diablo III. I can't wait to embed a knife in her skull with my DH.
I don't think that we know what is going on at all. I think that the expansions to Diablo III are going to blow us away. I'm hyped as fuck because I am dying to see how this shit plays out.
Thank you for the insight. You know, this is exactly why I joined DiabloFans in the first place. I've been craving lore discussion such as this for a long time.
Lastly, Pyrrhic, you should read Diablo III: The Order by Nate Kenyon.
I am glad that my topic has spawned such excellent discussion. I do not have the time to read through everything right now (fucking dentist) but I will later tonight. My interest is definitely piqued. From what I have read of your post already, Pyrrhic, you deserve a +1. It is nice to know that there are people out there that find the lore of Diablo as interesting as I do.
Edit: I thought that the souls of Mephisto, Diablo and Baal were trapped in the abyss, following the events of Diablo II: Lord of Destruction. How did Adria mark their souls for capture within the Black Soulstone?
Regarding Adria, the Black Soulstone, and how she supposedly traveled abroad and 'marked' the souls of the Lords of the Burning Hells for capture within it. The narrative was very vague in its explanation of these events and I've been confused for some time. I thought that the souls of the Prime Evils were trapped in the abyss since the events of Diablo II. I also don't understand how the souls of Andariel and Duriel were captured.
Anyways, I imagine that Adria must be considerably powerful to have been able to mark the souls of the Lords of the Burning Hells. Perhaps Aiden (Diablo) bestowed her with the demonic powers that would be necessary for her to accomplish this task before he left Tristram to travel east.
That's just a theory that I have. It might fall apart under scrutiny.
I hope that a future expansion will explain all of this for us, unless someone here has the answers. If anyone can elaborate on what is going on in regards to Adria and the Black Soulstone I would like to hear it. Even if it's just theory crafting.
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I don't think that all seven of the Great Evils are considered Prime Evils. Just Mephisto, Diablo, and Baal. Tathamet was the original Prime Evil, and Diablo became the Prime Evil. You're right, this is confusing! Tyrael mentioning Tathamet doesn't help either. I think that they could have done a better job explaining this within the narrative. Regardless, I am very impressed with the story of Diablo III and the way that it's told. I am sure that the first expansion will elaborate on everything that has happened regarding Adria and the Black Soulstone. Also, I think that both you and I know for certain that Diablo did not become Tathamet.
I'm glad that I've taken the time to get into a discussion such as this.
Holy shit...
I didn't believe that Diablo became Tathamet in the first place. I don't see this as possible within the lore. Following his death, the seven heads of Tathamet spawned the Great Evils. His headless corpse became the Burning Hells. I don't see how Tathamet could become whole again. If Diablo did transform into Tathamet, wouldn't he have been unstoppable? Wouldn't Sanctuary have burned? I don't think that anyone but Anu himself would be capable of stopping Tathamet. Plus, if Diablo did become Tathamet during the events of Diablo III, I'm sure that they wouldn't have left us guessing. Shit would have been explicitly stated during the narrative of Act IV.
Adria has undoubtably been lying through her teeth. We shouldn't trust anything we have heard from her. I went from loving Adria as a character in Diablo to despising her as a character in Diablo III. I can't wait to embed a knife in her skull with my DH.
I don't think that we know what is going on at all. I think that the expansions to Diablo III are going to blow us away. I'm hyped as fuck because I am dying to see how this shit plays out.
Thank you for the insight. You know, this is exactly why I joined DiabloFans in the first place. I've been craving lore discussion such as this for a long time.
Lastly, Pyrrhic, you should read Diablo III: The Order by Nate Kenyon.
Edit: I thought that the souls of Mephisto, Diablo and Baal were trapped in the abyss, following the events of Diablo II: Lord of Destruction. How did Adria mark their souls for capture within the Black Soulstone?
Anyways, I imagine that Adria must be considerably powerful to have been able to mark the souls of the Lords of the Burning Hells. Perhaps Aiden (Diablo) bestowed her with the demonic powers that would be necessary for her to accomplish this task before he left Tristram to travel east.
That's just a theory that I have. It might fall apart under scrutiny.
I hope that a future expansion will explain all of this for us, unless someone here has the answers. If anyone can elaborate on what is going on in regards to Adria and the Black Soulstone I would like to hear it. Even if it's just theory crafting.