i think that's referring to his encounter in the dungeon they show in the gameplay trailer. He's stuck in the catacombs beneath the church in hordes of demons. but i think that he makes it out ok from the looks of things.
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Why can't a heterosexual guy tell a heterosexual guy that he thinks his booty is fly?
but its so perfect! Cain being the Lord of Lies?!?! come on, that would be intense.
The one issue I'm having with it though is that if Diablo is in the game, I don't think Belial could be the masterminding fiend that I'd love for him to be. There's just no way that a lesser evil could outplay a prime evil, leaving lore out of it. It's one thing for Baal, another prime evil to outlive Diablo, but I don't see Belial being the last boss if Diablo makes a return.
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Why can't a heterosexual guy tell a heterosexual guy that he thinks his booty is fly?
There are sooo many cool ideas for a Diablo storyline floating around these forums, I'm sure someone has nailed it by now. I especially liked one about the cultists summoning Diablo through the Worldstone's rift. I'll think of a way to incorporate that into my story. Possibily something that is happening on the side while we all go after the Lord of Sin.
EDIT: Lord of SIN, not Lies
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Why can't a heterosexual guy tell a heterosexual guy that he thinks his booty is fly?
which leads into Blizzards 4th project, the Diablo MMO where you choose the side of Hell or Heaven and battle on the mortal plain alongside demons or angels in a search for this equilibreum.
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Why can't a heterosexual guy tell a heterosexual guy that he thinks his booty is fly?
Alright I think that I should consolidate all of my thoughts now as to how the story should go IMO-
Sorry, it is most likely TL;DR but for those interested enough in my theory, that is the whole thing.
Belial, the Lord of Lies, has been locked in a civil war with Azmodan, the second lesser evil known as the Lord of Sin. This struggle has been going on for essentially a millenia without either side gaining much ground on the other. With the awakening of Diablo in what we know as Diablo I, Belial realizes that he has a chance to open up Hell on Earth and destroy his brethern whose soul stones all reside in the mortal realm. So he disguises himself as the mortal Cain in order to guide a mortal hero to destroy Diablo. This plan succeeds but the weak human cannot contain the beast in his own body as he believed and Diablo begins to amass power, and attempts to free his brothers so they can rampage through Sanctuary and create their own dominion. Belial, still mascarding as Cain, finds more mortals to follow after Diablo and destroy the Evils left in Sanctuary. These mortals are easily swaded because they fight for their dominion, however they do not know the role they are playing in their own downfall. Things become complicated when the archangel Tyrael intervenes on the side of the mortals, however Cain finds his intentions to coincide with his and finds no threat, and so lets Tyrael hold the reigns in defeating Diablo and Baal. However, Cain did not anticipate the destruction of the Worldstone. Now, taking off where D2 left off, Cain will persuade a new generation of heroes to fend off demonic invasion and slay Azmodan. The mortals go along with the plan, as does Tyrael, unaware that the order the Evils are slane will judge the outcome of their world. When Azmodan is slain, the armies of Hell will be united under Belial's rule, and will be waged on Sanctuary, and the High Heavens. Needing to command the minions from Hell, Belial will destroy his identity of Cain by having a camp where he is staying overrun (the first event told to the hero when he proceeds an act; think of defeating a boss, going onto the next act and the first dialogue or possibily the cinametic inbetween telling the tale) with countless demons. He will be supposed dead, but will have taken a foothold in the depths of Hell. The angels of Heaven will wage war on the Burning Hell and will inlist the aid of the mortals, whereas previously only Tyrael had ventured to mortals for help. They will battle the demons back into Hell, slaying many and possibly encountering new incarnations of evils that escaped the Abyss before encountering Cain, in human form at the core of Hell. He will once again decieve the Hero, convincing him the evil lurks deeper in the Hellfire, and will wait until the mortal is so deep into the demonic horde that there will presumably be no escape. He will then take on his true form as the Lord of Lies and our hero will be forced to slay his most trusted ally.
EDIT: I realize the Starcraft feel that the D3 storyline has going, but it worked for SC in the form of Jim and Kerrigan, why not the hero and Cain? Plus it will be less complicated without the sexual tension I imagine.
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Why can't a heterosexual guy tell a heterosexual guy that he thinks his booty is fly?
All of this relates to the Evils and Angels, so they are relevant to the discussion.
And all of your info is understood to have been stated, but the question is by who and if this is reliable enough to discount the idea that Cain is not who he says he is. If I was taking all the info presented as fact there would be no argument. It is just that most of that information is not "history" but rather Cain's story that he recants.
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Why can't a heterosexual guy tell a heterosexual guy that he thinks his booty is fly?
You say that it would have been better for it to be corrupted, but for who? You say Evil, but the lesser evils that reigned in Hell were not on good terms with the Prime Evils. So Baal's death was necessary for both of the two remaining lesser evils. I suppose the Worldstone's destruction wasn't desireable, but this was more Tyrael than the Hero, and so this may be one of the only things Cain didn't have control over. There is room for debate on this point.
Your third point is that the Hero had no choice but to pursue the demons, but they had no means to do so without Cain's guidance. And so when they became dependent on Cain, he had the ability to control the outcome.
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Why can't a heterosexual guy tell a heterosexual guy that he thinks his booty is fly?
Cain is a horadrim, very noble people.
Cain is not responsible for the worldstone destruction, Baal and Tyrael are.
Cain did not push you forward, he merely tagged along incase you needed information.
Happy? I used logic instead of flame.
Untill you maybe explain some more of your theory then maybe I will reconsider.
1) Cain is the only person to varify his connection with the horadrim (he might be the reason for their fading in the first place, that would leave him in a position to claim the be the last one)
2) Cain was the one guiding the Hero to kill Baal and assuming he knew Tyrael (which he would if he were a demon) he would have known Tyrael's instinct would be to destroy the corrupted Worldstone
3) Cain was the one to push the Hero to do the final quest in each Act (i.e. kill Andy, Duriel, Meph, D, Baal) and so had control over the situation and how things unfolded
EDIT: spelling and some info
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Why can't a heterosexual guy tell a heterosexual guy that he thinks his booty is fly?
fewwwhh *wipes forehead*
Good thing it's just my idea and not me. I'd really hate to be grouped in with those retards that make nonconstructive comments.
On Topic-
Azmodan is the Lord of Sin
Cain from Cain and Abel can be considered the first mortal sinner for killing Abel.
Also, Azmodan has already shown that he does not support Diablo by throwing him out of Hell along with the rest of the Prime Evils, and Cain refelcts this same disdain for Diablo.
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Why can't a heterosexual guy tell a heterosexual guy that he thinks his booty is fly?
I honestly don't think that a personal journal would be mis-information... just doesn't seem feasible to me. But I gotta agree the scene you described would be intense.
I meant that if it WAS a personal journal, it WOULDN'T support my idea.
However if it was meant to be found and read, then it could be mis-information.
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Why can't a heterosexual guy tell a heterosexual guy that he thinks his booty is fly?
The one issue I'm having with it though is that if Diablo is in the game, I don't think Belial could be the masterminding fiend that I'd love for him to be. There's just no way that a lesser evil could outplay a prime evil, leaving lore out of it. It's one thing for Baal, another prime evil to outlive Diablo, but I don't see Belial being the last boss if Diablo makes a return.
There are sooo many cool ideas for a Diablo storyline floating around these forums, I'm sure someone has nailed it by now. I especially liked one about the cultists summoning Diablo through the Worldstone's rift. I'll think of a way to incorporate that into my story. Possibily something that is happening on the side while we all go after the Lord of Sin.
EDIT: Lord of SIN, not Lies
which leads into Blizzards 4th project, the Diablo MMO where you choose the side of Hell or Heaven and battle on the mortal plain alongside demons or angels in a search for this equilibreum.
Sorry, it is most likely TL;DR but for those interested enough in my theory, that is the whole thing.
Belial, the Lord of Lies, has been locked in a civil war with Azmodan, the second lesser evil known as the Lord of Sin. This struggle has been going on for essentially a millenia without either side gaining much ground on the other. With the awakening of Diablo in what we know as Diablo I, Belial realizes that he has a chance to open up Hell on Earth and destroy his brethern whose soul stones all reside in the mortal realm. So he disguises himself as the mortal Cain in order to guide a mortal hero to destroy Diablo. This plan succeeds but the weak human cannot contain the beast in his own body as he believed and Diablo begins to amass power, and attempts to free his brothers so they can rampage through Sanctuary and create their own dominion. Belial, still mascarding as Cain, finds more mortals to follow after Diablo and destroy the Evils left in Sanctuary. These mortals are easily swaded because they fight for their dominion, however they do not know the role they are playing in their own downfall. Things become complicated when the archangel Tyrael intervenes on the side of the mortals, however Cain finds his intentions to coincide with his and finds no threat, and so lets Tyrael hold the reigns in defeating Diablo and Baal. However, Cain did not anticipate the destruction of the Worldstone. Now, taking off where D2 left off, Cain will persuade a new generation of heroes to fend off demonic invasion and slay Azmodan. The mortals go along with the plan, as does Tyrael, unaware that the order the Evils are slane will judge the outcome of their world. When Azmodan is slain, the armies of Hell will be united under Belial's rule, and will be waged on Sanctuary, and the High Heavens. Needing to command the minions from Hell, Belial will destroy his identity of Cain by having a camp where he is staying overrun (the first event told to the hero when he proceeds an act; think of defeating a boss, going onto the next act and the first dialogue or possibily the cinametic inbetween telling the tale) with countless demons. He will be supposed dead, but will have taken a foothold in the depths of Hell. The angels of Heaven will wage war on the Burning Hell and will inlist the aid of the mortals, whereas previously only Tyrael had ventured to mortals for help. They will battle the demons back into Hell, slaying many and possibly encountering new incarnations of evils that escaped the Abyss before encountering Cain, in human form at the core of Hell. He will once again decieve the Hero, convincing him the evil lurks deeper in the Hellfire, and will wait until the mortal is so deep into the demonic horde that there will presumably be no escape. He will then take on his true form as the Lord of Lies and our hero will be forced to slay his most trusted ally.
EDIT: I realize the Starcraft feel that the D3 storyline has going, but it worked for SC in the form of Jim and Kerrigan, why not the hero and Cain? Plus it will be less complicated without the sexual tension I imagine.
And all of your info is understood to have been stated, but the question is by who and if this is reliable enough to discount the idea that Cain is not who he says he is. If I was taking all the info presented as fact there would be no argument. It is just that most of that information is not "history" but rather Cain's story that he recants.
Your third point is that the Hero had no choice but to pursue the demons, but they had no means to do so without Cain's guidance. And so when they became dependent on Cain, he had the ability to control the outcome.
1) Cain is the only person to varify his connection with the horadrim (he might be the reason for their fading in the first place, that would leave him in a position to claim the be the last one)
2) Cain was the one guiding the Hero to kill Baal and assuming he knew Tyrael (which he would if he were a demon) he would have known Tyrael's instinct would be to destroy the corrupted Worldstone
3) Cain was the one to push the Hero to do the final quest in each Act (i.e. kill Andy, Duriel, Meph, D, Baal) and so had control over the situation and how things unfolded
EDIT: spelling and some info
fewwwhh *wipes forehead*
Good thing it's just my idea and not me. I'd really hate to be grouped in with those retards that make nonconstructive comments.
On Topic-
Azmodan is the Lord of Sin
Cain from Cain and Abel can be considered the first mortal sinner for killing Abel.
Also, Azmodan has already shown that he does not support Diablo by throwing him out of Hell along with the rest of the Prime Evils, and Cain refelcts this same disdain for Diablo.
I meant that if it WAS a personal journal, it WOULDN'T support my idea.
However if it was meant to be found and read, then it could be mis-information.