And as we know, everyone in Sanctuary is the exact same age and don't reproduce.
Canace has a son, Wirt. Canace is actually missing in D1. It is assumed she died of a broken heart when the demons took Wirt into the Labyrinth.
Atma has a son, err had a son. Radament killed him.
Mephisto has a son and a daughter. Lucion and Lillith.
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This is Blizzard. BUt best we leave that for another thread.
Back to the barb, the solely D3 barb.
I am definitely trying this class out first. I love the big tough tank guy. As one can see in my sig I display an image of Minsc (and Boo) from Baldur's Gate, who just so happens to be a barbarian with a facial tattoo and destroys with melee weapons. (Anyone seeing a similarity to the d2 barb?). But I hope the back ground is expanded on. I would love to see some dialog regarding his homeland, and the pain he feels.
And story, especially, backstory and class histories is something Blizzard does well in the Diablo series.
Yes, story is very important to me. I really can't figure out how people enjoying killing noobs all day.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
So I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm just saying that I find it highly unlikely and haven't really seen anything adamantly suggesting it.
Some proof either way would suffice. They only said they brought him back. They didn't really allude to one side and notthe other. Architype or lore. I suppose it will depend on how D3 is written to see for sure.
Prehaps, but since I probably won't play a female barbarian much, if at all, and will primarily play male ones, depending on the story I can always Role Play that it is him, if it is not disproved specifically I do not see why I cannot believe it to be so. Infact I probably would even think it if it contradicted something like Sex. For funzies and a more interesting story.
And yes, Blizzard are well know for changing lore regarding characters, place and even entire races. The Draenei in WOW look like Eradar Warlocks (Archimonde) not Draenei from WCIII. Which they renamed to ancient ones or lost ones, so as to allow the new lore they made to fit.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
Yeah, I realize that's true, but I don't really see how it remotely fits from a "lore or storybased perspective". First of all, we have both male and female in Diablo III
You should play Baldur's Gate II. You can be a Half Orc in that game, but Half Orc was not a race available in the first game (Baldur's Gate). Yet you are the same character in the second game that you were in the first. Even if you are a race/class not in the first.
So the idea is not impossible. The same can be applied to a female barbarian while female barbarians were not in the first game (D2) they are in the second (d3) and it is still the same character.
We really only have basic details of the characters, If it possible that the coding in games which refers to class cannot be applied to sex, thus the NPCs will react differently to you base on whether you are male or female. I doubt that is a stretch, it happens in a lot of games.
A few dialog changes here and there, and without too much work, presto, the female barb is now the barb from D2.
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Urgh, don't you people understand storylines/lore. He is not the same Barbarian based on skills (Clearly as he has some new ones). Blizzard is speaking in terms of character, in which skills are in essence meaningless or do not count, only his history, and personality count.
Take the Orc Grunt is a staple of WC, It is in every WC game, it's skills change each time, but it is still the large, green, totally destroys footmen grunt it was in WC1, even in WCIII. Lore wise or story wise, it's the same grunt. Skills wise, it's quite a different story.
The barbarian in D3 is the same, he is still the axe weilding, powerhouse neanderthal-like melee wrecking machine he was in D2. He is just more timebeaten, weatherworn and older, and probably wiser, now he knows what he is fighting.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
Also, with different story lines based on class, won't it be much harder to make the co-op gameplay cohesive?
Depends how quests work in d3, as opposed to how they work in WOW.
You might not have the share quest option. But your party could come along anyways.
I love class specific quests, makes the game more unique. Not everyone gets to do the same quests, at least wholely. If the quest is to kill z demon, there is nothing to tstop you from killing that demon without the quest.
If the Barbarian has a quest to kill Ragnard the Unholy, I don't see why the Witch Doctor couldn't come along and offer some support.
If you can share quests like you can in WOW what would be the point to class specific?
But now to talk of the barb in general. I love that it is the same guy from the previous game. It's a nice change fro mthe usual character from previous game is now evil and you have to kill them scenario in other blizzard games, including Diablo II.
I hope his background and cultures are expanded on this time. We didn't even get to see the Barbarian captial of Sescheron last time. That is somewhere I really want to go, esp. as a barbarian, one of my favourite classes in the Diablo series. Or even going to Scosglen as the barbarian, and to see how welcomed he is by the Druids. Qual Kehk didn't seem to look too fondly upon the druid entering Harrogath. I imagine the reverse is probably true.
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Canace has a son, Wirt. Canace is actually missing in D1. It is assumed she died of a broken heart when the demons took Wirt into the Labyrinth.
Atma has a son, err had a son. Radament killed him.
Mephisto has a son and a daughter. Lucion and Lillith.
Back to the barb, the solely D3 barb.
I am definitely trying this class out first. I love the big tough tank guy. As one can see in my sig I display an image of Minsc (and Boo) from Baldur's Gate, who just so happens to be a barbarian with a facial tattoo and destroys with melee weapons. (Anyone seeing a similarity to the d2 barb?). But I hope the back ground is expanded on. I would love to see some dialog regarding his homeland, and the pain he feels.
And story, especially, backstory and class histories is something Blizzard does well in the Diablo series.
Yes, story is very important to me. I really can't figure out how people enjoying killing noobs all day.
Some proof either way would suffice. They only said they brought him back. They didn't really allude to one side and notthe other. Architype or lore. I suppose it will depend on how D3 is written to see for sure.
Prehaps, but since I probably won't play a female barbarian much, if at all, and will primarily play male ones, depending on the story I can always Role Play that it is him, if it is not disproved specifically I do not see why I cannot believe it to be so. Infact I probably would even think it if it contradicted something like Sex. For funzies and a more interesting story.
And yes, Blizzard are well know for changing lore regarding characters, place and even entire races. The Draenei in WOW look like Eradar Warlocks (Archimonde) not Draenei from WCIII. Which they renamed to ancient ones or lost ones, so as to allow the new lore they made to fit.
You should play Baldur's Gate II. You can be a Half Orc in that game, but Half Orc was not a race available in the first game (Baldur's Gate). Yet you are the same character in the second game that you were in the first. Even if you are a race/class not in the first.
So the idea is not impossible. The same can be applied to a female barbarian while female barbarians were not in the first game (D2) they are in the second (d3) and it is still the same character.
We really only have basic details of the characters, If it possible that the coding in games which refers to class cannot be applied to sex, thus the NPCs will react differently to you base on whether you are male or female. I doubt that is a stretch, it happens in a lot of games.
A few dialog changes here and there, and without too much work, presto, the female barb is now the barb from D2.
Take the Orc Grunt is a staple of WC, It is in every WC game, it's skills change each time, but it is still the large, green, totally destroys footmen grunt it was in WC1, even in WCIII. Lore wise or story wise, it's the same grunt. Skills wise, it's quite a different story.
The barbarian in D3 is the same, he is still the axe weilding, powerhouse neanderthal-like melee wrecking machine he was in D2. He is just more timebeaten, weatherworn and older, and probably wiser, now he knows what he is fighting.
Depends how quests work in d3, as opposed to how they work in WOW.
You might not have the share quest option. But your party could come along anyways.
I love class specific quests, makes the game more unique. Not everyone gets to do the same quests, at least wholely. If the quest is to kill z demon, there is nothing to tstop you from killing that demon without the quest.
If the Barbarian has a quest to kill Ragnard the Unholy, I don't see why the Witch Doctor couldn't come along and offer some support.
If you can share quests like you can in WOW what would be the point to class specific?
But now to talk of the barb in general. I love that it is the same guy from the previous game. It's a nice change fro mthe usual character from previous game is now evil and you have to kill them scenario in other blizzard games, including Diablo II.
I hope his background and cultures are expanded on this time. We didn't even get to see the Barbarian captial of Sescheron last time. That is somewhere I really want to go, esp. as a barbarian, one of my favourite classes in the Diablo series. Or even going to Scosglen as the barbarian, and to see how welcomed he is by the Druids. Qual Kehk didn't seem to look too fondly upon the druid entering Harrogath. I imagine the reverse is probably true.