We gotta make a change...
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive. Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin) ~~us West Ladder~~
Okay, I don't want to confuse people here, or rather, I don't want to misrepresent my ideals here and look like an idiot.
What I am saying is that helping people become powerful so that they in turn can help more people become powerful and continue the cycle is what people on Battle.net want- it would be kind of stupid to dismiss that. What I'm saying is, if it's going to attract people, do it. Ferret, Bambi, Brett, many others, and I (I mostly just follow- still working on getting on my own two feet) do runs constantly, or rush people, or whatever- and you know what? We have fun. We do. When you do things together as friends it's fun- if you're not having fun, you're most likely not with a good round of friends. That's what makes Diablo II fun for replay- friends to do things with, even slow things like just running the Acts and difficulties.
I also was not EVER saying that if you're not doing runs, you're not active. I NEVER said that. I said it was a very good way of attracting new members- we've had constantly had people asking about the guild and such when we were helping them. People are always more impacted by deeds than words, and we are taking that to heart and actually doing things, while you people simply keep trying to rain on our parade. That's really what it seems like.
Anyway, SpanishBard was right on a lot of levels, and I have to say I'm glad we have someone like him around to interpret things from time to time. I'm sorry if any of you got the wrong meanings out of anything I said- I take full responsibility for my incompetence if that's the case. But anyway, there are tons of other things you can do. Mfing is wonderful for us- we do really share things and give stuff to other people that might be worth something but we don't really need (to other guild members.) Not that that's a requirement, and it should never be assumed as such, but it goes to show that people are more important than power and prestige to some people- and I'll tell you, those are the kinds of members you guys never want to piss off, because they're the people that ARE your guild. Period.
Just being there is fine, too. Even if you just hang around a leech, or talk, or anything- it all makes things "look" better. It really does. Not to say that looks are all we're striving for, but in all honesty, people will want to see activity. Do you know how many thousands of people peruse this site daily? And how many members do we have at the moment? 40-something? I bet you can see we're I'd be going with that.
I'm not telling you that you absolutely must be there- we need representatives on other games, too- but Diablo is where this guild was born, and no one, and I mean NO ONE, ever has the right to say that any game prior to Diablo III does not require attention from the guild. Ashes to ashes and dust to dust- it will start with Diablo and there it will end.
Edit--
And actually, here's some more:
These things you guys like to do- the Iron Man runs and such- they're good and people have fun with them- but sealing yourself up in private games and only interacting with other guild members is not going to help this guild grow. That's what I'm interested in and what I'm working to see. You have no idea the amount of things I hate (or hated) horribly about this guild, but for some reason I just felt compelled to join. And why? Because I saw the people here- people who had a somewhat lax view of seeing the guild returned to a state of former glory. That will was there, and still is, and I know that many of you still want to see that. But I'm telling you, we can't just wait two, three, even four years for a game to come out to suddenly become active- we can't blame inactivity on real-life issues constantly and maintain high positions (or positions at all) within the guild if you're not going to be any use for some time. Please do not take that previous statement to an extreme and dismiss this "grain of salt" out of hand. Being spread out across a bunch of different games also does not help- Elfen and the others were right to make a uniform server for us on Diablo II. I hate it because I'm working on a completely different time zone, but I can see clearly why it's necessary- and that same principle can be applied to multigame hosting. We simply don't have the numbers for it at the moment. Not to say you guys shouldn't play other games, by all means, do it, because guilds are as much about fun as they are a future, but do not go and say "SICK is dying" when you're off in some odd corner of some server of a non-Diablo game without a tag of any sort working for a different guild, and you are perfectly able to make a difference. That's an extreme case, but at least some of it is true for a lot of members. I'm begging you not to dismiss this, please think about it if you're really here for the guild, or you're just here because you've been here for years, or just because you wanted a cool custom siggy, or (the list can go on and on.)
I've wanted to leave this guild many times- a lot of times out of anger against superiors, a lot of times out of anger toward inactive members, a lot of times to stupid rules, a lot of times to people who have good ideas but are too scared to do anything for fear of loosing brownie points, and, occasionally, because of a lame name (oh, there go some more brownie points.) But, in the end, I know these are things that can be solved if people are willing for change, and are willing to be a part of that change.
Anyway, that's about it.
the first paragraph is true, we don't do shit and not get bored, ive had times where i'd just sit in a chat room and talk to my F list, which is composed of 90% of sick members.
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We gotta make a change...
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive. Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin) ~~us West Ladder~~
I started HCladder again today. I will be rising to greatness over the next 2-3 weeks Necronergal Get on asap. anyone else looking to play some Hc ladder then let me know
yea, jsut saw you in teh channel.
lvl 89 ladder i assume? lol
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We gotta make a change...
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive. Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin) ~~us West Ladder~~
I need to say something about everyone whining about people being inactive.
SICK is not a diablo 2 clan. It is, iirc, an elite clan that is readying itself for Diablo III and be the ultimate diablo 3 clan, guild, whatever. People like magistrate (yes im saying your name, I'm not about to cupcake this message) are thinking they're Gods and acting as if every other person in the guild does nothing because they don't regularly play Diablo 2: LOD. For me, I got sick of the same old rushing and doing runs in Diablo, so I discontinued my quest to get to lvl 99 on the ladder. I'm sorry if i cannot use all my free time on an eight year old game and pretend like it's keeping my attention. I am now in the process of learning all the lore of the Diablo franchise so I can ready myself for Diablo III and understand the lore. This involves reading old threads and posts (mostly Elfens and Atru) and eventually reading books by Knaak. I am not close to that stage, but I'm getting off topic.
As for the whole recruit thing, I think the SICK clan should be a whole seperate thing from DiabloFans forum. Recently a lot of jump-on-the-bandwagoners came to the forums when Diablo III was announced and I have not been remotely looking forward to continue reading these corrupt forums anymore. I believe that the requirements should not belong to the actual forums, but knowledge on Diablo, skill, and most imporantly manners - which, actually, puts a use for the forum requirements, now that i think of it. Now im a flip-flopper. I'm all for the forum requirement but there needs to be exceptions, to be determined by higher ups such as Elfen, ferret, siaynoq, etc.
it is, it's a diablo related guild.
and no, we're not acting as if we were god's, but we are elite d2 players. and tired of the inactive players.
were not asking to redo the whole guild. but D2 lod section, because it effects us more then anyone.
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We gotta make a change...
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive. Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin) ~~us West Ladder~~
=/ ill try and make a meeting.. and well... no ferret i'm not going to pm you because i gotta sleep, but u know where i stand. nite.
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We gotta make a change...
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive. Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin) ~~us West Ladder~~
hm, necro i thought about the bot idea, but i never said anything, but if ppl are kool with it.
ill put in on it gear wise.
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We gotta make a change...
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive. Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin) ~~us West Ladder~~
and magistrate has a valid point. we are only talking about Diablo 2, please lets leave WoW out of this.
and stop beating around the bush.
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We gotta make a change...
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive. Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin) ~~us West Ladder~~
I am not against the idea either. I still want people on one realm and I still enforce the ranking system. Let's turn this thread into a discussion thread as to what changes could be made to help out ferret.
ranking system will still be there, and we will all be in one realm, obviously.but i want ferret to rewrite the requirements to SICK
how he does it is on him, i trust ferret 100% and i know he will do what is best for the diablo 2 players.
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We gotta make a change...
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive. Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin) ~~us West Ladder~~
Let it be known I am not against the suggestion of idea from the populous. No far from it, I welcome it. If you feel there is an an area that needs improvement, then by all means speak up.
The requirements may be steep, perhaps too steep, however there needs to be something. I have lived through 3 restructurings due to lack of dedicated players. People would sign up, then never be seen or heard from again. This cannot be allowed to happen!!!! Not again.
And by the Que Hegan, I will not sit through yet another dissension by members to another realm. If someone says we play one Realm then we play one one Realm dammit!! I have had it up to here with not being able to find people because they are on 5 different realms. What happened to our sense of unity? loyalty?
Strength through Unity, Unity through Faith. And as always, SICK prevails!!
you're not agianst the idea, so thats a possible start.
the requirements are steep, that's why ferret should be able to manage d2 players, and rules. (for diablo 2 players)
5 different realms? last i checked, were all on WEST Sc ladder. loyalty? unity? it's still there, but i'm not going to sit here while the clan i'm in freeze's or just incinerates.
also, i'd appreciate it if you gave me a straight foward answer and not dodge my question.
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We gotta make a change...
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive. Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin) ~~us West Ladder~~
anyway, me and ferret were talking, We want ferret to make the SICK rules.
nothing else to it, the old way inst working. there is absolutely no growth in SICK.
if he doesn't get it, or we find a middle ground, i will resign from Sick.
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We gotta make a change...
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive. Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin) ~~us West Ladder~~
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It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive.
Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners
SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin)
~~us West Ladder~~
the first paragraph is true, we don't do shit and not get bored, ive had times where i'd just sit in a chat room and talk to my F list, which is composed of 90% of sick members.
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive.
Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners
SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin)
~~us West Ladder~~
yea, jsut saw you in teh channel.
lvl 89 ladder i assume? lol
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive.
Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners
SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin)
~~us West Ladder~~
it is, it's a diablo related guild.
and no, we're not acting as if we were god's, but we are elite d2 players. and tired of the inactive players.
were not asking to redo the whole guild. but D2 lod section, because it effects us more then anyone.
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive.
Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners
SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin)
~~us West Ladder~~
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive.
Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners
SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin)
~~us West Ladder~~
ill put in on it gear wise.
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive.
Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners
SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin)
~~us West Ladder~~
awsome.
and magistrate has a valid point. we are only talking about Diablo 2, please lets leave WoW out of this.
and stop beating around the bush.
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive.
Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners
SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin)
~~us West Ladder~~
ranking system will still be there, and we will all be in one realm, obviously.but i want ferret to rewrite the requirements to SICK
how he does it is on him, i trust ferret 100% and i know he will do what is best for the diablo 2 players.
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive.
Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners
SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin)
~~us West Ladder~~
you're not agianst the idea, so thats a possible start.
the requirements are steep, that's why ferret should be able to manage d2 players, and rules. (for diablo 2 players)
5 different realms? last i checked, were all on WEST Sc ladder. loyalty? unity? it's still there, but i'm not going to sit here while the clan i'm in freeze's or just incinerates.
also, i'd appreciate it if you gave me a straight foward answer and not dodge my question.
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive.
Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners
SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin)
~~us West Ladder~~
nothing else to it, the old way inst working. there is absolutely no growth in SICK.
if he doesn't get it, or we find a middle ground, i will resign from Sick.
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive.
Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners
SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin)
~~us West Ladder~~