looks like TL2 has been pushed back to 2012 officially now. So much for getting the jump on D3. I know for me, if D3 is out first, TL2 will take a back seat to D3 for quite some time. I'll probably end up getting TL2 same way i got TL 1, via a steam sale for about 5 bucks or less whenever that happens. Shame, since if it came out first i would have gladly payed full price, but i can't see paying full price when D3 will have me (hopefully) entertained for a nice long time.