I doubt that blizzard would base their new game on something the Necro says in Act 3 ..
Who said they would? I certainly didn't. I was merely saying I may have gotten the whole idea of the Great Abyss from what he says in Act 3. But I have always felt that after their Soulstones were smashed at Hellforge that the Prime Evils could never return to the mortal realm. There's plenty of evidence to suggest that.
Trag'Oul and TRang'Oul are one and the same, right? I remember reading Legacy of Blood and seeing that spelling instead of the R in the Necromancer set.
Yes, they are one in the same. I don't think there's any special reason why they were spelled differently. I might have been simply that one day that particular Blizzard empoyee didn't get the memo.
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Anyway, those are some good points, but since this "Dark Abyss" has never been mentioned, it'll either have to be introduced into the game at some point or they go back to hell like I thought. Good thinking though, Diablo has a very interesting storyline
My theories on the Great Abyss could easily prove to be completely unfounded. I'm not even sure where I get the word "Great" from. But I think what started that theory for me was when the Necromancer slays Mephisto and says, "Farewell Mephisto. Give my regards to the Abyss." Obviously I couldn't see if abyss was capitalized or not. But since the Necromancer said it, I assumed he was speaking of a realm that only the Priests of Rathma were truly aware of.
All I know is when the Worldstone was destroyed evil is allowed in, when you destroy the prime evils souls, they just end up back in hell. So MOST LIKELY you just fight him over and over again. The souldstones just contained their spirits so they couldn't cause havoc and whatever. When you break it they just go back to hell. I'm not totally sure on this, but quite positive, Because you can't kill the Devil (if that's who Diablo is supposed to be).
Maybe certain would have been a better word than positive since you stated you're not totally sure. I would agree with you that ultimately, you probably can't kill Diablo. Not because he's the devil either. I don't equate Diablo to the devil. Diablo just happens to be an extremely powerful demon that bases all his methods on terror and embodies the principle of it. His essence can never cease to exist, but he can be permanantly banned from places such as Sanctuary.
And someone may wish to debate this with me, but I was under the impression that there was such a thing as a Great Abyss. And that this abyss is basically akin to nothingness. And lastly, that once those Soulstones were destroyed, there spirits or essences if you will, are banished to that place of no return. But even if this was supposedly true, there's no telling what the nature of the Great Abyss, Sanctuary, Heaven, or even Hell is. Knowing that, yes, there is the possibility that any Prime Evil could return from the Great Abyss if that is in fact where they went.
But the problem of allowing the Prime Evils to return over and over to Sanctuary where you must fight them is the problem of infinity ad nauseum. Don't you ever wish for things to truly end? Don't you like knowing that all those efforts of killing the Prime Evils and destroying their Soulstones had a permanent effect? Such as the one of them never being able to return to a mortal realm again? I personally believe they simply cannot. Which is why I also believe the next Diablo game will be one of two types of games: either a prequel, possibly during the time of the Sin War or even during an early time when the different mage clans were at war with each other. That, or the game will be a sequel, but that you will not battle the Prime Evils in Sanctuary; they will either be fought in Hell or maybe even Heaven.
What neither the Burning Hells or the High Heavens truly understand, is that they are not on top of everything else. There are beings beyond them and the universe in which all known things exist. What I'm getting at is that if there ever is an ending to the Great Conflict, that won't necessarily mean the ending of mortals. These beings that exist beyond the known universe are aware of mortals and the immortals within the forces of Heaven and Hell. And if mortals are truly something unique in the world of Sanctuary, and these higher beings see more potential in them than Heaven and Hell does, there is no telling what sort of intervention might take place from these higher beings.
I'm still learning about them myself. The only one I'm explicitly aware of is Trag'Oul. But it is difficult to theorize about the nature of these beings and the extent of their power and influence when even Trag'Oul itself does not know fully what it is. Still, I believe or at least hope, that Trag'Oul or other beings like it will have some greater role in the next Diablo game. Prequel or Sequel.
ive seen the name of tyreal pop up a lot in here, but so far i havent found the name hadriel once (havent looked at all posts, so might be mistaken).
But im more afraid of hadriel then tyreal. At the time when youve gotten through almost everything in the classic version, and approach the waypoint of river, Hadriel is waiting for you to give you instructions on how to defeat Diablo himself.
Someone with this knowledge can never be a good person, especially no angel.
Tyreal is just an angel that requires the help of a mortal to defeat the prime evils.
Though Hadriels somehow seems to be more interested in taking out all the demons. It could be me, but i think he is trying to take over, but he was still watching your progress.
This story kinda sounds like dungeon siege2, where a strange mentor is aiding you throughout the battle, and when you finally meet the "bad guy", you find out that you were just a puppet to your mentors command.
If maybe Hadriel had appeared more than once in the game then I'd give more credence to your theory. And I'll even admit that I always thought his sudden appearance there to tell you about the five seals, or to turn back and destroy Mephisto's Soulstone always was kind of strange to me. But I honestly feel today like he was just a last minute NPC they decided to throw in there.
It is also my theory that Tyrael would've been completely aware of Hadriel's presence. Maybe Tyrael even posted Hadriel there to advise you at the last minute in case you weren't able to make it back somehow to the Pandemonium Fortress. And one reason I believe Hadriel is subservient to Tyrael is because his wingspan is not as long as Tyrael's. And I kind of think that wingspan has something to do with rank or level of power as far as archangels are concerned.
Belial and Azmodan were responible for banishing the three to the mortal realm and they still control a vast amount of Hell's army.
they seem more sotryline related that Andariel and Duriel, yet we got to fight those two.
I don't think they're more significant than Andariel and Duriel. The four Lesser Evils together overthrew the Prime Evils. So in that sense, they're all equally as important. When Andariel and Duriel are slain, I reckon they just go back to Hell, whereas the Prime Evils are banished into the Great Abyss. So with the return of the other two Lesser Evils, once again the four of them remain in Hell; possibly more powerful now that they Prime Evils can no longer marginilize them.
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but yeh prequel seems logical, set in the sin war/capture and binding of the three.
I've come to enjoy telling people the next game will probably be a prequel. Since I think the Sin War is a fascinating time period, yet at the same time prequels piss people off so it makes me laugh.
Maybe. I'm just not sure they're that essential to the storyline in any way. But who knows, really. Personally I would love to fight them, or at least have them play a significant role in the next Diablo game. But my money is still kind of riding on a prequel game.
It's so funny that this community feels Diablo 2 LoD had an open ending. I do as well but every single real life former D2 addictee I talk to or just on members on different forums, all feel D is completely done through and through and I'm a fool for thinking otherwise in their opinions.
I've long held that LoD's ending is not as open-ended as many think it is. It was always my impression that with the destruction of the Worldstone, Heaven and Hell would no longer be able to enter the realm of Sanctuary.
a game set during the Sin War/Binding of the Three, is quite possible. D3 as a prequel, it could happen. if its set during the Sin War that would be awesome. lots of demons and mages.
Totally. This is the period when the power of the mage clans were at its highest and there was lots of fighting between them. You would have the Horadrim when they were either being founded or a full on group.
Everything that's going on during the Sin War is really fascinating to me so far. And personally, I'm sure I said this before, I think it would be far more interesting to play a game of that era than something soon after the Worldstone's destruction.