First off you're asking for an instant out, because you took your toon too far and you're going to die. That's not HC, nor the instant save and exit.
Second, SoR is on like a 4 second cast.
Third, you can exit the game while moving and fighting, on a 10 second timer. If you're that big of a puss, just play with your exit game open the whole time.
Fourth, we have no idea how disconnects from our end are handled by D3, for all we know disconnects mean an instant leave-game server side. Just unplug your shit
Right, right. But do you get what I'm saying in the end, with the example of black souls insta killing you from off screen?
That's what my opinions are based on. I can't see why anyone would possibly want the game to keep you from exiting in situations like that, where you loose your char at random.
If things like that doesn't happen in D3, then a casting time to exit is fine with me. I don't mind the game being hard, but I do mind the game randomly killing you for no apparent reason, as D2 would do in certain places.
Ah yes, I do see what you mean, but for me personally that's not an excuse to have an instant out just because there might be some game mechanics that are screwed up at launch. I'm sure the first wave of people to try and go through inferno HC will have stories forever to tell of some glitched mobs that were 1 shotting them =D It's all part of the fun
This is where you nerdraged by degrading those that want to play hardcore without the "features" you so want.
As you said, it is a damn game. Don't cry if you lose a character. Start a new one.
There is a reason for why they introduced a small window before you actually exit the game also why they gave stone of recall a casting time. They just didn't like how it was abused in D2. They want it to be played in another way.
So now "raging" simply means saying you don't like the same as someone else?
And how did this start anyway? Was I the one saying others shouldn't play the way they wanted? No, I was saying that I would like to play as I did in D2. Fans of a more hardcore HC mode have been saying all along that people who want to play D2 style HC are pussies for wanting that.
Now for saying that I'm fine with them playing however they want, if I can play the way I used to, I'm suddenly, not even raing, but nerdraging. How does that work out?
Also, complaining about losing a character because of a game bug, or unfair (compared to the previous diablo game) game mechanic, isn't crying. It's complaining about it and hoping it will get fixed so that random insta deaths doesn't happen in the same way anymore.
And it wasn't abused in D2. It was used the way it was meant to. Now they just want something else from D3, and a 10s exit time is too long for me in HC. At least it would have been in D2 with so many random insta deaths. Maybe D3 won't be like that, making a 10s casting time less of a worry. However it seems to be down to 4s now, much more to my liking.
What my real problem is situations like this: getting spotted by something like dark souls in worldstone keep from somewhere off screen where I can't see them.
What happens is this, I walk along without seeing any mobs. Suddenly though, I see a ton of lightning coming my way from somewhere off screen, and I die. That's a random insta death. Nothing you can do about it. I don't like that, and I don't want it in D3.
Even with the right gear for the situation, you can happen to get killed in an instant by something you didn't even see.
If D3 doesn't have these kinds of situations, then a 10s exit might be ok, let alone a 4s casting time.
First off you're asking for an instant out, because you took your toon too far and you're going to die. That's not HC, nor the instant save and exit.
Second, SoR is on like a 4 second cast.
Third, you can exit the game while moving and fighting, on a 10 second timer. If you're that big of a puss, just play with your exit game open the whole time.
Fourth, we have no idea how disconnects from our end are handled by D3, for all we know disconnects mean an instant leave-game server side. Just unplug your shit
Lets all get this straight: playing Diablo 3 on HC, or any video game for that matter, does not make you "hardcore", bad ass, or a real man by any means, It's a damn game.
You could be playing the hardest game known to man and still only be a little asocial kid living in his parents basement.
Failing to acknowledging certain features of D2 missing in D3 only shows how eager you are to appear like internet toughguys.
In D2 HC, save & exit and instant tp was the name of the game. It's what you did to get out of a tight spot. Becaues guess what, it was either doing that or losing your char.
Choosing not to play the game as it's meant to be played (save & exit and tp being parts of the game) by not escaping a fight you know you'll loose is just dumb. You can either escape or loose your char. Loosing your char on purpose and then posting about it in an internet forum just makes you an idiot for wasting your own time without gaining anything from it - becaues lets face it, you aren't becoming more of a man by completing certain difficult videogame challenges.
I agree with OP. D3 is missing features that made HC what it was in D2. Saying that save & exit and tp in D3 HC makes it too easy, or basically makes it SC, is just dumb as it was what made HC in D2 what it was.
HC is having one life but also having easy exit strategies. That's how HC in D2 was. HC in D3 is a harder version of HC.
Saying that HC has always been like that is simply wrong, as we've always been using save & exit and tp to get out of trouble, to avoid loosing our chars.
It still surprises me to see how eager people are to prove how "hardcore" they are for beating a damn video game in a certain way.
Save and exit and instant TP weren't features jackass, they were faults. Just like there being no actual currency in D2 was a fault, so players had to make up their own (see SOJs). Arguing that this is being changed in D3 is = to burning a cross is ridiculous. Just because it's what we did before doesn't mean it's healthy for the game or the players.
The fact that you want an easy way out if you're in a tough spot just says to me you need to play softcore. You like the danger but 'oohhh *cring*' I don't want to actually lose!
Also, coming onto the forums for the first time using such a heavy stream of nerdrage words to flame people about playing diablo on HC, on a diablo website, is not the best idea.
Think the recall time for hardcore should be the same as regular. Hardcore should have the exact same rules, except that one rule where you can only die once.
I agree it should be the same, it worked for d2, but it won't for d3. You never had any situations in d2 where you were locked in a room with no way out. Mark my words, if not on release but within a month after, they will have some sort of escape feature or lower cast on recall, their will simply be too many people raging about being locked in with no way out, and no option but to lose their char. I can gaurentee even the people disagreeing with me in this post, will change their minds once they get locked in a room with a nightmare+ boss.
On another note with someone else's post, I agree falling objects and walls should damage hc players, dunno why they removed it from even sc.
Durials room in D2? You were locked in there. There IS a way out in D3, a 5 second cast. Pull up your big girl panties and accept that if you choose to fight a boss, you might die. Also if you are a giant clam, just window out, right click D3 and exit.
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Ah yes, I do see what you mean, but for me personally that's not an excuse to have an instant out just because there might be some game mechanics that are screwed up at launch. I'm sure the first wave of people to try and go through inferno HC will have stories forever to tell of some glitched mobs that were 1 shotting them =D It's all part of the fun
The new town portal? It's still a 4 second cast. I don't think they will be lowering it.
First off you're asking for an instant out, because you took your toon too far and you're going to die. That's not HC, nor the instant save and exit.
Second, SoR is on like a 4 second cast.
Third, you can exit the game while moving and fighting, on a 10 second timer. If you're that big of a puss, just play with your exit game open the whole time.
Fourth, we have no idea how disconnects from our end are handled by D3, for all we know disconnects mean an instant leave-game server side. Just unplug your shit
Save and exit and instant TP weren't features jackass, they were faults. Just like there being no actual currency in D2 was a fault, so players had to make up their own (see SOJs). Arguing that this is being changed in D3 is = to burning a cross is ridiculous. Just because it's what we did before doesn't mean it's healthy for the game or the players.
The fact that you want an easy way out if you're in a tough spot just says to me you need to play softcore. You like the danger but 'oohhh *cring*' I don't want to actually lose!
Also, coming onto the forums for the first time using such a heavy stream of nerdrage words to flame people about playing diablo on HC, on a diablo website, is not the best idea.
Durials room in D2? You were locked in there. There IS a way out in D3, a 5 second cast. Pull up your big girl panties and accept that if you choose to fight a boss, you might die. Also if you are a giant clam, just window out, right click D3 and exit.