Giving them exclusives rewards people for liking a challenge.
fix'd. If you want the extra drops, no one's stopping you from playing HC, can't have everything.
So yes, I was misquoted.
And yes, on Hardcore you do have to be a lot more conservative... one thing that I used to love doing was going to places and looking around for the HARDEST enemies I could find - ones that a lot of people would just ignore - and see how many times it took me dying to find a way to kill it - you know, the type of monster where even if you're around a corner, firing hydra or guided arrow at it for 10 minutes it still doesn't die and if you move even a quarter of a millimeter or if IT moves the wrong way - you die instantly even if you've got maxed resists in all categories.
Or when doing baal runs, people would leave the second they saw a pack of souls near the waypoint... I'd dash right in and see how long it took to kill them. Or at least I'd drag them away so someone else could go port to the chamber - even if I died 100 times. Things like that are stuff I enjoy doing.
That's something I just can't do on hardcore.
Also, randomly running ahead to see what's in a place throwing caution to the wind. Another thing you can't do on hardcore. That's what I mean by exploration. I hate to compare to other games as well, but when wow first came out, at level 21 on my hunter I explored the entirety of felwood. Sure I died 20-30 times. But it was worth it 'cause it was so cool to be able to say I'd seen it that low. That's my type of exploration. Honestly, I *like* dying when it's in the name of exploration. Hardcore takes that away from me - why would I possibly ever enjoy it? Once again, I'm not saying you shouldn't, just that me not liking it has nothing to do with the fact that I couldn't handle it. Hell I had a level 60 hardcore character that was alive until the day I stopped playing d2(eventually it expired).... I just tired of playing it around the end of Nightmare. Because I couldn't do all the things that I loved the game for... because most of those things were just plain suicidal.
But I have to ask... if you enjoy hardcore for the sake of the game... why do you NEED a reward other than the fun you get out of it?
Asking for a reward sounds like you're trying to validate your decision to someone. Or like you're trying to PROVE that hardcore is better than softcore - which it isn't, just different.
ffs you little elitists don't misquote me please. I understand you like hardcore... and I'm not asking for you to be penalized for liking a different playstyle from me, am I? I'm merely asking to not be punished for not enjoying the... fleeting nature of hardcore characters. Sure I understand, it's incredibly fun for you guys - isn't the fun of it reward enough?
I played hardcore, I didn't enjoy it. I never said that YOU GUYS don't get attached to your characters. Read me a line in ANYTHING I said that said 'nobody gets attached to their characters'. I expressed MY PERSONAL OPINION of the times I PLAYED HARDCORE. I found NO JOY in it because I felt no attachment to the characters. NOWHERE did I say YOU GUYS SHOULDN'T FEEL THAT WAY. Just that people shouldn't be rewarded for enjoying different aspects of the game. I don't enjoy hardcore, not because it's hard - I actually kind of found the challenge a bit fun. But after a while, I felt no attachment to my character so I stopped playing it. It was that simple.
Man I hate people who misquote people or change the wording. It's just so incredibly rude and such poor forum etiquette. How can you people even call yourselves friendly posters if you are so RIDICULOUSLY rude to people? God...
Edit: Note: My final statement: I don't feel that any game mode or style of play should receive any power-impacting exclusive. Fluff things like unique dyes or perhaps even have a different appearance to the final tier set - those are all great ideas. And of course the unique banner appearance modifications.
But actual ITEMS... no. Only someone who is truly in their heart elitist would ever agree to that - and that is proven by reading the posts of EVERY person in this thread who has said they're for it.
I think HC only drops and other stuff is a horrible idea.
Why? I KNOW I'm a good enough player for Hardcore. It wouldn't be something I couldn't do, I just wouldn't ENJOY it. One of the things I find the most fun is seeing just how much I can take at once. That's not something I could do with hardcore. Hardcore removes a lot of exploration from the game. You have to be very conservative, which just isn't how I, and many others, like to play this game. The other aspect that I hate in hardcore is that I just find myself completely detached from my character. Why? Because I know eventually I'm gonna lose it so I just don't bother getting attached to it. Which also takes a huge element of the game away.
I think Hardcore should be just what it is - a way to play the game with increased tension for people who like it. Giving them exclusives punishes people for liking different playstyles.
Yes the only difference, as stated by these fine folks, is that if you die once your character is caput - oh and the lack of the RMAH because Blizzard wanted to avoid the issues caused by people spending money on items only to lose them 2 minutes later.
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Wow I just read your comment Shades...
So you're the type who feels that all true gamers should feel the same way as you. You insult everyone who disagrees with you by merely posting, and you don't even care that you do so...
Here:
So yes, I was misquoted.
And yes, on Hardcore you do have to be a lot more conservative... one thing that I used to love doing was going to places and looking around for the HARDEST enemies I could find - ones that a lot of people would just ignore - and see how many times it took me dying to find a way to kill it - you know, the type of monster where even if you're around a corner, firing hydra or guided arrow at it for 10 minutes it still doesn't die and if you move even a quarter of a millimeter or if IT moves the wrong way - you die instantly even if you've got maxed resists in all categories.
Or when doing baal runs, people would leave the second they saw a pack of souls near the waypoint... I'd dash right in and see how long it took to kill them. Or at least I'd drag them away so someone else could go port to the chamber - even if I died 100 times. Things like that are stuff I enjoy doing.
That's something I just can't do on hardcore.
Also, randomly running ahead to see what's in a place throwing caution to the wind. Another thing you can't do on hardcore. That's what I mean by exploration. I hate to compare to other games as well, but when wow first came out, at level 21 on my hunter I explored the entirety of felwood. Sure I died 20-30 times. But it was worth it 'cause it was so cool to be able to say I'd seen it that low. That's my type of exploration. Honestly, I *like* dying when it's in the name of exploration. Hardcore takes that away from me - why would I possibly ever enjoy it? Once again, I'm not saying you shouldn't, just that me not liking it has nothing to do with the fact that I couldn't handle it. Hell I had a level 60 hardcore character that was alive until the day I stopped playing d2(eventually it expired).... I just tired of playing it around the end of Nightmare. Because I couldn't do all the things that I loved the game for... because most of those things were just plain suicidal.
But I have to ask... if you enjoy hardcore for the sake of the game... why do you NEED a reward other than the fun you get out of it?
Asking for a reward sounds like you're trying to validate your decision to someone. Or like you're trying to PROVE that hardcore is better than softcore - which it isn't, just different.
I played hardcore, I didn't enjoy it. I never said that YOU GUYS don't get attached to your characters. Read me a line in ANYTHING I said that said 'nobody gets attached to their characters'. I expressed MY PERSONAL OPINION of the times I PLAYED HARDCORE. I found NO JOY in it because I felt no attachment to the characters. NOWHERE did I say YOU GUYS SHOULDN'T FEEL THAT WAY. Just that people shouldn't be rewarded for enjoying different aspects of the game. I don't enjoy hardcore, not because it's hard - I actually kind of found the challenge a bit fun. But after a while, I felt no attachment to my character so I stopped playing it. It was that simple.
Man I hate people who misquote people or change the wording. It's just so incredibly rude and such poor forum etiquette. How can you people even call yourselves friendly posters if you are so RIDICULOUSLY rude to people? God...
Edit: Note: My final statement: I don't feel that any game mode or style of play should receive any power-impacting exclusive. Fluff things like unique dyes or perhaps even have a different appearance to the final tier set - those are all great ideas. And of course the unique banner appearance modifications.
But actual ITEMS... no. Only someone who is truly in their heart elitist would ever agree to that - and that is proven by reading the posts of EVERY person in this thread who has said they're for it.
Why? I KNOW I'm a good enough player for Hardcore. It wouldn't be something I couldn't do, I just wouldn't ENJOY it. One of the things I find the most fun is seeing just how much I can take at once. That's not something I could do with hardcore. Hardcore removes a lot of exploration from the game. You have to be very conservative, which just isn't how I, and many others, like to play this game. The other aspect that I hate in hardcore is that I just find myself completely detached from my character. Why? Because I know eventually I'm gonna lose it so I just don't bother getting attached to it. Which also takes a huge element of the game away.
I think Hardcore should be just what it is - a way to play the game with increased tension for people who like it. Giving them exclusives punishes people for liking different playstyles.
Edit:
Wow I just read your comment Shades...
So you're the type who feels that all true gamers should feel the same way as you. You insult everyone who disagrees with you by merely posting, and you don't even care that you do so...