In any case the idea is: Someone could come in, declare hostility, and effectively not hunt you down in seconds... they'd have to wait. This gives anyone not interested in a fight several minutes to finish up what they're doing (or get to a checkpoint) and then vacate the game.
lol you're funny.
In all seriousness...do I really have to say anything?
Ha yea that was a pretty odd idea. Only way hostility gets brought back is by adding in a function when joining a game. Which apparently would make them redo all of their match making, which I am fine with.
I was gonna write some reply, but I think you made yourself look like a complete twat, I don't really need to say anything.
That's just the type of attitude that leads people to distrust PvPers and hostility mode. Knowing that at any time some retard can just come in and ruin your game takes away some of the fun, especially in HC. I am against any system that forces PvP (or leaving the game/playing alone) on anyone that doesn't want it.
Obviously that is why IF they would add a hostile feature, it would have to be something that could be an option when creating a game. That way people who want that experience of never knowing what is going to happen can get it, and people who want to know they are safe and secure can be safe and secure. Either way, it isn't going to happen, and anyone who wants it to happen is not a troll or a griefer.
"Rules of Engagement" - Any player to declare hostility against other players has a temporary debuff applied. Perhaps it starts as a -25% reduction to all stats @ 10 minutes sort of thing. For each minute that passes 2.5% of that debuff is retracted until the buff diminishes entirely... so:
Hostility can still only be declared from town and you can only hostile someone within X (5+/-) levels of your character... as always, hostiling someone puts you against anyone in their party as well.
That seems like a fun idea to mess around with....
At first read, I thought this was retarded as hell. However sure, it has absolutely no chance to be in game but I would accept it. If it gives me the option to hunt down little kids who run their mouth, a debuff won't even matter. They couldn't kill a good player 7v1 in D2, even with no gear on I am confident I could take 3 kids with full debuff on.
I am asking the EXACT opposite...can you not read? I DON'T WANT BLIZZARD TO MUDDLE WITH PVP...is that clear enough? I want to ability to make my own rules, which is simple. I am not asking for hostility, it would be fantastic if it was in it...but I can live without it. I don't want Blizzard tying my hands because they are to lazy to code proper PvP in the game, just give me the power to do what I want in the arena. They don't have to do shit, just stay out of it cause they will ruin it. That is why D2 had great high end PvP, because we didn't have them sticking their nose in it.
Diablo 3 isn't Diablo 2. Aka.. there is no PvP engine AT ALL currently. So, if you don't want Blizzard to muddle with PvP at all...you're saying you don't want them to do it. Blizzard isn't being too lazy to code a proper PvP system into the game, quite the opposite in fact...they are coding a proper structured casual PvP system into the game. It might not be for you, but that's the direction Blizzard has chosen for PvP and a lot of the community prefers it this way. Diablo 2 didn't have great PvP. It has extreme elitist PvP where unless you bought items or spent years farming for them, you always lost. It wasn't fun at all for newer players and mostly was used to grief other players.
Diablo 3 isn't meant for competitive eSport-style PvP. Not at all, in fact. So if that is what you're looking for...you need to look into other games, because this isn't the one for you. If, however, you can be content with playing through an epic story...grinding monsters with friends in infernal...or casually killing people in Arena...then this might be the game for you. That's what Diablo 3 is and what it's been designed and balanced around. Hostility has no place in this design and unless you can explain HOW it does, within the design of the game...I'll continue to believe as such.
Man again..get off the esports thing dude. I have yet to say ANYTHING that is even remotely insinuating that I want esports or do I think it is a good idea. I don't know what you are reading that gives you that idea, but you are wrong haha.
That is just it though. I am not asking for Blizzard to do anything beside give us the power to do what we want. Has nothing to do with esports or competitiveness. Give us the power to make it what we want it, not tie our hands and throw us in the corner like red headed step children.
Again, you're asking for a focus on PvP that wasn't intended. Blizzard didn't design Diablo (any of them) around PvP. Their goal has always been PvM first, PvP last. In Diablo 3 they are offering a fully structured and integrated PvP system to allow people to easily and casually fight players. Its not meant for some tournament system, eSport, etc. However, a simple private Arena system with an FFA mode WOULD give you exactly what you want (Diablo 2 PvP in Diablo 3, essentially).
Hostility is a bad option given the design of Diablo 3, period. This has been explained many times...and no-one has been able to give a good reason for it. With four players max, and the game balanced around needing all of the players to clear content...its just not a good idea to allow two people to delay everything to battle it out. Its not how Diablo 3 was designed and expecting it to change at this point in development is asking way too much.
I am asking the EXACT opposite...can you not read? I DON'T WANT BLIZZARD TO MUDDLE WITH PVP...is that clear enough? I want to ability to make my own rules, which is simple. I am not asking for hostility, it would be fantastic if it was in it...but I can live without it. I don't want Blizzard tying my hands because they are to lazy to code proper PvP in the game, just give me the power to do what I want in the arena. They don't have to do shit, just stay out of it cause they will ruin it. That is why D2 had great high end PvP, because we didn't have them sticking their nose in it.
Except that Diablo 2 wasn't based on PvP either and yet we had options to do customized PvP. If the arena doesn't allow customization options like 1v1, 1v2, ect then it will be a total fail. It will be nothing more than team based gutter trash with random...kinda like GW random arena...gutter trash. It is fun once or twice to see how far you can go with your luck but in the end it is pointless. May as well just take out arena period at that point and give us a horde mode.
Diablo 2 didn't have options... it just had hostility and that's it. You're mistaking that for options as it let players make the rules. Diablo 3 PvP isn't meant to be eSport competitive PvP, its casual PvP just to have fun killing other players. Expecting more then that, will likely have you disappointed.
As I've mentioned though, I could see them offering private PvP games. If they add a FFA option with private PvP games, players could do exactly what they did in Diablo 2...make their own rules. This would give you what you want without adding too much complexity to the system itself.
That is just it though. I am not asking for Blizzard to do anything beside give us the power to do what we want. Has nothing to do with esports or competitiveness. Give us the power to make it what we want it, not tie our hands and throw us in the corner like red headed step children.
Give us an option to do 1v7, ect and that is all we need. Bad enough they make us have to waste time and join a separate game mode just to play how we want, but then they take all of our options away too. Give us options to make arena what we want and it is what it is.
Honestly, I don't think you'll get those kind of options. The best you'll probably get is a private FFA, and just make your own rules as to who wins (which was really the case in D2). Again, Diablo 3 isn't a game focused on PvP. Expecting a ton of customization options for PvP is asking a bit much, especially when PvM doesn't have those kind of customization options either.
Except that Diablo 2 wasn't based on PvP either and yet we had options to do customized PvP. If the arena doesn't allow customization options like 1v1, 1v2, ect then it will be a total fail. It will be nothing more than team based gutter trash with random...kinda like GW random arena...gutter trash. It is fun once or twice to see how far you can go with your luck but in the end it is pointless. May as well just take out arena period at that point and give us a horde mode.
Give us an option to do 1v7, ect and that is all we need. Bad enough they make us have to waste time and join a separate game mode just to play how we want, but then they take all of our options away too. Give us options to make arena what we want and it is what it is.
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At first read, I thought this was retarded as hell. However sure, it has absolutely no chance to be in game but I would accept it. If it gives me the option to hunt down little kids who run their mouth, a debuff won't even matter. They couldn't kill a good player 7v1 in D2, even with no gear on I am confident I could take 3 kids with full debuff on.