I'm not trying to troll. It's a waste of everyones time.
Based on the Jay interview, so is discussing serious pvp and e-sporting D3.
Well it is a good thing Jay only makes the game and doesn't run the community, we do. Diablo PvP gets as serious as the community wants it to be. Does EVO happen because Capcom or Namco set it up, or does it happen because the community made it what it was? Don't get so blind by what a developer says, they are not the end all be all opinion. There was very much a live Diablo 2 PvP scene and there still is, it will flourish just as much if not more in Diablo 3, with or without Blizzards consent.
I'm quite familiar with player-generated content. EVE online is 99% player content, 1% horribly broken mmo crap with devs who wouldn't get work on the Blizzard North janitorial staff.
What i'm saying has nothing to do with player generated content at all. More power to the guy who wants to make an unofficial ladder, capture the cow, or whatever the hell they come up with. That's amazing.
What i'm repeating here is that the devs are clear on the release content and what they want out of pvp at that time. Why continue to sabre rattle about official content when, as you said yourself, players can and have already filled the void?
He meant, EVO, the big tournament event where players go to compete in fighting games like Street Fighter or Soul Calibur, not EVE online, the mmo, but I can see how you confused the two.
So he's basically saying, players are the ones who made stuff like Street Fighter and Soul Calibur a big competive scene regardless of Capcom or Namco's intent. Really, no developer has built a pvp game with the full intention that it would be a big esport competitive scene, except Starcraft 2.
I know what he meant. I used another game as an example to make a more effective argument with a pre-existing system.
I'm basically agreeing with what he's saying and then explaining my earlier position, which seems to have made him a little upset.
Somehow I missed your last sentence in that paragraph, that indeed does agree with what he said. I just reacted to the EVE and thought it was odd since he was talking about EVO.
I'm not trying to troll. It's a waste of everyones time.
Based on the Jay interview, so is discussing serious pvp and e-sporting D3.
Well it is a good thing Jay only makes the game and doesn't run the community, we do. Diablo PvP gets as serious as the community wants it to be. Does EVO happen because Capcom or Namco set it up, or does it happen because the community made it what it was? Don't get so blind by what a developer says, they are not the end all be all opinion. There was very much a live Diablo 2 PvP scene and there still is, it will flourish just as much if not more in Diablo 3, with or without Blizzards consent.
I'm quite familiar with player-generated content. EVE online is 99% player content, 1% horribly broken mmo crap with devs who wouldn't get work on the Blizzard North janitorial staff.
What i'm saying has nothing to do with player generated content at all. More power to the guy who wants to make an unofficial ladder, capture the cow, or whatever the hell they come up with. That's amazing.
What i'm repeating here is that the devs are clear on the release content and what they want out of pvp at that time. Why continue to sabre rattle about official content when, as you said yourself, players can and have already filled the void?
He meant, EVO, the big tournament event where players go to compete in fighting games like Street Fighter or Soul Calibur, not EVE online, the mmo, but I can see how you confused the two. So he's basically saying, players are the ones who made stuff like Street Fighter and Soul Calibur a big competive scene regardless of Capcom or Namco's intent. Really, no developer has built a pvp game with the full intention that it would be a big esport competitive scene, except Starcraft 2.
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Somehow I missed your last sentence in that paragraph, that indeed does agree with what he said. I just reacted to the EVE and thought it was odd since he was talking about EVO.
He meant, EVO, the big tournament event where players go to compete in fighting games like Street Fighter or Soul Calibur, not EVE online, the mmo, but I can see how you confused the two. So he's basically saying, players are the ones who made stuff like Street Fighter and Soul Calibur a big competive scene regardless of Capcom or Namco's intent. Really, no developer has built a pvp game with the full intention that it would be a big esport competitive scene, except Starcraft 2.