Why would you go for the Xeon, which is meant to be used as a server processor? The mobo is also a workstation model, though I know the Asus WS mobos are good for gaming aswell. Your build also has some weird items like an extra NIC, Office programs and other stuff in no way related to gaming. Just curious here.
This^ Xeon might be good for Encoding, but just for gaming? Not needed I'd rather have a 2700k or 2600k or a 3820 or 3930k. The xeon is just not really useful for gaming.
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I forget when they are coming but i think they might have been delayed, the new Radeon GPU's are out though. The 7970 is 500 bucks though. And yes if you're doing single monitor gaming, or just dual monitors one for games the other for browsing web and stuff then a single 570/6950/560Ti hell probably a 6850 will run it just fine. I know d3 won't give you any problems with any of those cards.
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a sinlge GPu thats priced nice and gets good performance is a 6950/570/560Ti they're the ones that aren't super expensive but give you more than enough performance for todays latest and greatest games.
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You can use 2-6 monitors for Eyefinity, 2 is kinda useless the only ones that work well are 6,5 and 3. the reason these work over 4 or 2 is because the middle of your screen shouldn't have a bezel down the center. If you use 4 then your screen is split in the middle with the bezels and same with 2 screens. The only one this works with is 6 monitors where you can use them in vertical plus horizontal. 3 monitors on two levels works quite nicely. Otherwise stick to 5 or 3 horizontal displays, just so your main screen is un-obstructed with bezels. Definitely get a second GPU if you want to multi-monitor in eyefinity or Nvidia Surround( required dual gpu). The cost sin't that much. Two 6950's will run you about 500 bucks and then 3 Asus V236H will run you around 450. So if you really have 2k to blow I could see this being useful. You could go with a 590 and then rune three nvidia surround 3d monitors to get 3d although it's not really that great. Then just spend the other 1k on mobo CPU and SSD/HDD and PSU + case. Like anti republicans aid you can get some nice deals on cases and that Corsair is a good case.
Whats the point in this? To pretend you are a security guard?
You can use 2-6 monitors for Eyefinity, 2 is kinda useless the only ones that work well are 6,5 and 3. the reason these work over 4 or 2 is because the middle of your screen shouldn't have a bezel down the center. If you use 4 then your screen is split in the middle with the bezels and same with 2 screens. The only one this works with is 6 monitors where you can use them in vertical plus horizontal. 3 monitors on two levels works quite nicely. Otherwise stick to 5 or 3 horizontal displays, just so your main screen is un-obstructed with bezels. Definitely get a second GPU if you want to multi-monitor in eyefinity or Nvidia Surround( required dual gpu). The cost sin't that much. Two 6950's will run you about 500 bucks and then 3 Asus V236H will run you around 450. So if you really have 2k to blow I could see this being useful. You could go with a 590 and then rune three nvidia surround 3d monitors to get 3d although it's not really that great. Then just spend the other 1k on mobo CPU and SSD/HDD and PSU + case. Like anti republicans aid you can get some nice deals on cases and that Corsair is a good case.
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Do some research, what CAN'T you run at high levels with that single video card...? nothing probably)
BF3 at 2560x1440 lmao that's if he wants to spend a grand on a dell u2711. But in all seriousness you're right Unless hes going for a dual triple quintuple or six monitor set up then dual cards will be pretty useless.
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These forums give out a bad image since apparently nobody's providing the OP with the answers he requested (builds with $2k budget), but rather spew out personal opinions and misinformation.
As long as your definition of better is FPS you won't notice, then sure it will run it better.
I havent given any personal opinions other than maybe the sound card debate. Waste of money imo, but some people like high quality sound. However, it should be one of the last things you consider as a gamer concerned with performance, which is obvious.
The build you posted has so much waste in it its laughable. One could easily make an comparable gaming machine for far far less. Buying top of the line components means you are paying for research and development for next to no gain, if any, in actual performance.
Case + PSU combo for less than your PSU or the Case you listed.
Just pure waste....suggesting stupid shit just because it costs a lot.
That case is laughable at best if you'll be doing Dual GPU's or even a 7970 or a hell a 6950. I had a similar case and a 6950 and i had so many heat issues. A case needs to have the proper airflow for your build. Simple as that. Without the correct airflow you're fucked as shit. I'm nto saying you have to buy the TJ11 which is 700 bucks but It's certainly a good option. The FT02 or Rv02-E are amazing alternatives and so are the Haf X and NZXT Phantom. Those are all well within his price range.Especially since he's looking for a dual GPU setup.
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1. Doesnt help performance, and quality is marginally better. I bet most people couldn't even tell the difference.
2. Says the guy who suggested a $600 case FFS. There are lots of cases in the $70 range that will work just as well at cooling. Water cooling is by no means needed. Hell you could put your computer components on a slab of wood.
3. Your personal experiences mean diddly shit. There are technical reviews and tons of customer feedback on just about any part. Compared to that, someone saying "lolz asus" is like a bad joke.
4. I already said that. 64 gigs is total overkill, and those boards are buggy as new technology often is. Besides, he could buy a good LGA 1155 board now, and if he needed upgrade in the future then he could buy a NEW LGA 2011 board. And it would cost about the same, and likely be far more stable.
You people seriously need to learn to think.
1. Although it doesn't help "performance" It sure as hell adds a different depth to the game. I know it certainly helped me out. Then again you need to buy a good headphone and I have a really nitpicky sense of hearing so I take not of very subtle details in music, as well as games. Maybe just my personal preference.
2. The only reason I suggested that case is based on reviews it is the case best suitable for air cooling. I know almost no one is going to buy that unless they're running like quad 7970's and an Oc'ed 3930k but still It's an option. If you haven't noticed I'm big on future proofing my computers.
3.not true, What makes my review any less effective or informative than the people on newegg of tigerdirect. I'm merely stating from my research the brands I've named have usually been very good.Asus has a broad spectrum of products but for motherboards they are top of the line. And XFX Corsair and Seasonic all use the same high quality parts and they are all top of the line PSU's. Again from what I found during my research.
4. Well 64 isn't complete overkill. If you're a photo editor who likes to have lots of layers and stuff in the photo, 64 gigs is sooooo much better than 8. It really sucks having a limit especially when you're trying to be creative. OFC new tech is buggy, but from what I've read the LGA 2011 boards out perform the lga 1155 boards most of the time. and there's always a price hike in new tech so that's kinda unavoidable.
It's not that I'm not thinking, I'm just thinking on a broader sense since he didn't give us specific wants or needs. Had he said I am just gaming, I would've said get a triple monitor setup dual vid cards an i5 2500k and an nzxt Phantom with 6-8 gigs of RAM and a 700 watt XFX psu and a decent 120 gig SSD, with a 500gig-2TB hdd for storage. I mean it just bases off of what the user needs. I know when I looked for my build I went for that HT and the extra two cores. I want to start up a stream and a youtube channel and I know I need more cores for that stuff. I also know I like photo editing and creating so I knew i needed more than the standard 8 gigs of ram. again It's not that we're not thinking, it's just that we're thinking in a broader sense than you. I agree with most things you said but not all.
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See if you'd like a sound card too. Most gamers underrate their sound card don't know why. I mean I don't know why
Because its not important in the slightest. It has little to nothing to do with how well the game runs, and that's what is really important.
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Most people seem to just be listing stupid shit that cost a lot of money, because you said you had a 2k budget. Personally, I would probably wait a few months for the next generation stuff to get on the market.
Few Tips:
You don't need 16 Gb of memory, 8 gig is fine. The best method is to buy 8 gig now, then buy 8 gig later after the price drops.
Similarly you don't need dual Video cards. You would be far better off buying one good video card, and then later buying another later for significantly less.
Don't blow a lot of money on a case. Its just a box that houses the components....it does almost nothing.
Motherboard: Make sure it has support for USB 3.0 and PCIe 3.0
Processor: The difference between I7 2600k and 2500k for gaming is almost nil.
PSU: Make sure it is a single 12v rail. Be aware of what you are going to run so you can get the right watt power supply, too much and you waste money, too little and you are hindering your system. This is a crucial part when it comes to gaming, and you need to make sure you do your homework on how much juice your system is going to use.
For example,
7970 will use about 300 watts under full load
I7 2600k will use about 165 watts under full load.
These #s will of course change greatly if you overclock.
Also anyone who suggests you only buy X brand don't know WTF they are talking about. Every company makes good and bad products, and they should be judged on a per case basis.
I also don't recommend blowing 2k on a computer unless you have a good job, and just have money to blow. When you buy top of the line components you are paying almost exclusively for research and development of said products. The difference between a 1k and 2k machine is nothing to write home about.
I'll address some things you said here.
1. Sound card are useless for gaming.... Well ain't that anything BUT the truth. If you're an audiophile too and you really know how to squeeze the sound from a good soundcard then go for it. It makes the world of a difference.
2."don't blow a lot of money on a case it's just a box that houses your components" I've never heard a more wrong statement. EVER! Your case is so important. If you plan on Watercooling eventually and you buy a cheap ass case for 60 bucks you're clearly going to screw yourself. If you're never going to watercool but want to get some high quality components then the case means more than almost anything. It's great if you bought a 7970 but having just a decent case with minimal airflow means CRASHES GALORE. You'll need an adequate case for cooling your parts. That's a fact.
3. To your comment on anyone telling you X brand is better. It's not because we want to limit his choices but it's because it's completely true. All my Asus products worked fine. The reason I had said to go with Seasonic Corsair or XFX is because they all use the same parts and are of very high quality. Sure sometimes you get a DOA but you have to go for a brand that has less DOA's you don't want a 5/8 chance you'll get a DOA part I'd much rather go with a brand that has a 1/8 chance.
4.The reason we listed the high priced shit is because well hes got 2k to blow, if he only plans on gamign then you're right he doesn't need half the crap but without his specific needs I can't go into detail. What if he's a photo editor too? He'll need more than just 16 gigs of RAM. and honestly if he has the money don't buy a LGA 1155 board buy a LGA 2011 future proof your system a little. They're all able to hold 64 Gigs of Ram run hexa and quad core processors and have PCIe 3.0 and USB 3.0
Dual video cards are up for debate, depends on his resolution what settings he wants to play at, etc... So really I can recommend it if he wants to be running BF3 maxed at 2560x1440 but not if he's going to be playing Diablo 3 at 1440x900.
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With 2k, I'd buy dual 7970's and a Core i7 3820 w/ an Asus Sabertooth X79 board and 8 Gigs of Corsair Ram @ 1600MHz
If you're building from scratch though with 0 spare parts, I'd roll with a I7 2600k, 8-16 gigs of RAM preferably Corsair or G.SKill Get an Asus Mobo the maximus extreme-Z board is good. Get a single 7970 or dual 570's. Put it in an NZXT Phantom/CM HAF X/ Silverstone FT02/ Silverstone TJ11(699$) All of these have great air cooling capabilities. You could get a Phanteks CPU cooler, I forget the acxtual model number but It's a monster and is very good at cooling. SSD get a decent 120Gig, OCZ Vertex 3's are really good, Buy a 500Gig HDD for storage and if you watch blu-rays get a decent blu-ray drive any will do.For the psu rock a 700-850 watt XFX or Corsair they're reliable and are future proof so if you ever upgrade some parts you'll be all good.
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That case is laughable at best if you'll be doing Dual GPU's or even a 7970 or a hell a 6950. I had a similar case and a 6950 and i had so many heat issues. A case needs to have the proper airflow for your build. Simple as that. Without the correct airflow you're fucked as shit. I'm nto saying you have to buy the TJ11 which is 700 bucks but It's certainly a good option. The FT02 or Rv02-E are amazing alternatives and so are the Haf X and NZXT Phantom. Those are all well within his price range.Especially since he's looking for a dual GPU setup.
1. Although it doesn't help "performance" It sure as hell adds a different depth to the game. I know it certainly helped me out. Then again you need to buy a good headphone and I have a really nitpicky sense of hearing so I take not of very subtle details in music, as well as games. Maybe just my personal preference.
2. The only reason I suggested that case is based on reviews it is the case best suitable for air cooling. I know almost no one is going to buy that unless they're running like quad 7970's and an Oc'ed 3930k but still It's an option. If you haven't noticed I'm big on future proofing my computers.
3.not true, What makes my review any less effective or informative than the people on newegg of tigerdirect. I'm merely stating from my research the brands I've named have usually been very good.Asus has a broad spectrum of products but for motherboards they are top of the line. And XFX Corsair and Seasonic all use the same high quality parts and they are all top of the line PSU's. Again from what I found during my research.
4. Well 64 isn't complete overkill. If you're a photo editor who likes to have lots of layers and stuff in the photo, 64 gigs is sooooo much better than 8. It really sucks having a limit especially when you're trying to be creative. OFC new tech is buggy, but from what I've read the LGA 2011 boards out perform the lga 1155 boards most of the time. and there's always a price hike in new tech so that's kinda unavoidable.
It's not that I'm not thinking, I'm just thinking on a broader sense since he didn't give us specific wants or needs. Had he said I am just gaming, I would've said get a triple monitor setup dual vid cards an i5 2500k and an nzxt Phantom with 6-8 gigs of RAM and a 700 watt XFX psu and a decent 120 gig SSD, with a 500gig-2TB hdd for storage. I mean it just bases off of what the user needs. I know when I looked for my build I went for that HT and the extra two cores. I want to start up a stream and a youtube channel and I know I need more cores for that stuff. I also know I like photo editing and creating so I knew i needed more than the standard 8 gigs of ram. again It's not that we're not thinking, it's just that we're thinking in a broader sense than you. I agree with most things you said but not all.
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I'll address some things you said here.
1. Sound card are useless for gaming.... Well ain't that anything BUT the truth. If you're an audiophile too and you really know how to squeeze the sound from a good soundcard then go for it. It makes the world of a difference.
2."don't blow a lot of money on a case it's just a box that houses your components" I've never heard a more wrong statement. EVER! Your case is so important. If you plan on Watercooling eventually and you buy a cheap ass case for 60 bucks you're clearly going to screw yourself. If you're never going to watercool but want to get some high quality components then the case means more than almost anything. It's great if you bought a 7970 but having just a decent case with minimal airflow means CRASHES GALORE. You'll need an adequate case for cooling your parts. That's a fact.
3. To your comment on anyone telling you X brand is better. It's not because we want to limit his choices but it's because it's completely true. All my Asus products worked fine. The reason I had said to go with Seasonic Corsair or XFX is because they all use the same parts and are of very high quality. Sure sometimes you get a DOA but you have to go for a brand that has less DOA's you don't want a 5/8 chance you'll get a DOA part I'd much rather go with a brand that has a 1/8 chance.
4.The reason we listed the high priced shit is because well hes got 2k to blow, if he only plans on gamign then you're right he doesn't need half the crap but without his specific needs I can't go into detail. What if he's a photo editor too? He'll need more than just 16 gigs of RAM. and honestly if he has the money don't buy a LGA 1155 board buy a LGA 2011 future proof your system a little. They're all able to hold 64 Gigs of Ram run hexa and quad core processors and have PCIe 3.0 and USB 3.0
Dual video cards are up for debate, depends on his resolution what settings he wants to play at, etc... So really I can recommend it if he wants to be running BF3 maxed at 2560x1440 but not if he's going to be playing Diablo 3 at 1440x900.
If you're building from scratch though with 0 spare parts, I'd roll with a I7 2600k, 8-16 gigs of RAM preferably Corsair or G.SKill Get an Asus Mobo the maximus extreme-Z board is good. Get a single 7970 or dual 570's. Put it in an NZXT Phantom/CM HAF X/ Silverstone FT02/ Silverstone TJ11(699$) All of these have great air cooling capabilities. You could get a Phanteks CPU cooler, I forget the acxtual model number but It's a monster and is very good at cooling. SSD get a decent 120Gig, OCZ Vertex 3's are really good, Buy a 500Gig HDD for storage and if you watch blu-rays get a decent blu-ray drive any will do.For the psu rock a 700-850 watt XFX or Corsair they're reliable and are future proof so if you ever upgrade some parts you'll be all good.