i agree that you addressed all 3 of those points, however only 2 of those were points i was making.
you misread or misunderstood the post that you replied to before this last post:
Very well
i understood that deletion of a post with responses was not a good option, but i was venturing that maybe we could be allowed to delete a post that had not yet received responses.
if that still would not be possible, i was hoping that we could be allowed to delete our original post if we did so within a short amount of time after it was posted.
Say, a five-minute window? I think that would be reasonable. We have to take in to account there are plenty of threads that don't get posted in for a while, but tons of people view them, anyway. What if that post contained flame or trolling, and then the maker just deleted it so that it wouldn't be tracked?
I think what would make it viable, though, is the type of deletion. If it was only soft deletion, so that moderators and administrators could see it even after it's been deleted, then yes, I would agree, since it would still allow us to do our jobs. Is that the kind of deleting you are talking about?
if you are not aware, there is a short amount of time after a post is posted that you can edit it without it showing up as edited.
Yeah, I actually noticed that just recently, ironically enough.
i never get a post right the first time, so i am quite familiar with editing.
Me either. I frequently find myself editing in credit or links after I post a news post :rolleyes:
it is during this period that i was hoping that a post could be deleted if no one else had responded.
I would say it's reasonable if this is as far as it goes, as in, we don't see this idea expanding in the future so users can just delete their own threads whenever, like if an argument isn't going the way they like or something immature like that, and as long as this only includes soft deleting.
No, if I did, by all means, please try to re-explain it :confused: As far as I have seen, I have addressed 1) deleting threads, 2) deleting original posts, and 3) editing posts without it showing up with a history, the first two of which were specifically stated in your title and the last of which was stated in the post before my last response. I may not have addressed everything (and hence why I didn't bother closing the thread since there are still a question or two to be addressed, like subscriptions, which I don't bother with), but I certainly addressed those.
If we allow people to edit without a history attached to it, first off, we're going to have a bunch of empty (and thereby, useless) spaces in the databases associated with posts, and secondly, it will bring in to account accountability, which I'm sure you don't need me to explain to you
Like I said, if you want it deleted, just report the post/thread to a staff member (moderation or higher) and it should be taken care of very quickly, since there is nearly always someone on.
Yes, I just tested it and it appears that even soft deleting the OP of a thread will soft delete the whole thread. As far as I have seen, no one in the past has ever messed with the vBulletin code. In this case, it could potentially be a very huge security issue if it's not absolutely perfect, which a large and active website like this can't stand for. We do have people now starting to do some more serious stuff from the Curse network, though, so maybe it will be done.
In all reality, I don't see the point of only deleting the OP of a thread, anyway. Users are allowed to respond to anything in the OP, so if the OP is bad, the whole thread is bad, essentially. There could be, of course, special cases, as there always are.
If you need a thread or post deleted, just PM, VM, or IM a moderator or administrator. Actually, just Report the post with the Report a Post function- it will show up for any moderation-or-higher staff member to see, so it will likely be done with quickly.
Very well
Say, a five-minute window? I think that would be reasonable. We have to take in to account there are plenty of threads that don't get posted in for a while, but tons of people view them, anyway. What if that post contained flame or trolling, and then the maker just deleted it so that it wouldn't be tracked?
I think what would make it viable, though, is the type of deletion. If it was only soft deletion, so that moderators and administrators could see it even after it's been deleted, then yes, I would agree, since it would still allow us to do our jobs. Is that the kind of deleting you are talking about?
Yeah, I actually noticed that just recently, ironically enough.
Me either. I frequently find myself editing in credit or links after I post a news post :rolleyes:
I would say it's reasonable if this is as far as it goes, as in, we don't see this idea expanding in the future so users can just delete their own threads whenever, like if an argument isn't going the way they like or something immature like that, and as long as this only includes soft deleting.
(Thanks for the reiteration, blood-doll :P)
No, if I did, by all means, please try to re-explain it :confused: As far as I have seen, I have addressed 1) deleting threads, 2) deleting original posts, and 3) editing posts without it showing up with a history, the first two of which were specifically stated in your title and the last of which was stated in the post before my last response. I may not have addressed everything (and hence why I didn't bother closing the thread since there are still a question or two to be addressed, like subscriptions, which I don't bother with), but I certainly addressed those.
Like I said, if you want it deleted, just report the post/thread to a staff member (moderation or higher) and it should be taken care of very quickly, since there is nearly always someone on.
In all reality, I don't see the point of only deleting the OP of a thread, anyway. Users are allowed to respond to anything in the OP, so if the OP is bad, the whole thread is bad, essentially. There could be, of course, special cases, as there always are.
If you need a thread or post deleted, just PM, VM, or IM a moderator or administrator. Actually, just Report the post with the Report a Post function- it will show up for any moderation-or-higher staff member to see, so it will likely be done with quickly.