THe other portion of the no-win is people like you, not getting what they want, then looking to blame.
Be a freaking adult and move on! Once the game adds content that you want, play it, if they do not, play something else. Stop complaining about it trying to stir a pot. Thats immature.
Follow your own advise. There had been lots of people in this forum who have asked you to stop posting your crap.
In every thread you appear, you seem to insult whoever doesn't share your opinion.
Then you post this garbage.... point again proven, thanks!
I am not trying to provoke, I am trying to teach. You are too immature to realize that your constant complaining about the game does nothing but put you into a sour mood, and does nothing but destroy/elevate your expectations of a game beyond normality.
The bottom line is that when something in life does not provide what you are looking for, as an adult, you move on. The wrong decision is to come into a forum, attack people like you are in the above post, and constantly complain about lavish expectations you yourself built and designed.
That is what I meant when I said, "People like you are what create the no-win situaton". Regardless of what they do for the game, you will have an even higher expectation of what they should give you. You will never offer a single suggestion to fix the game, instead constantly complaining about what is wrong, then they will do what you suggest, and you will complain how that sucks now instead, and have a different expectation.
Bottom line, players that live to complain are terribly toxic for the community. That is why I begin to take offense to them. My little tirade of copy cat was the only time people told me to stop posting anything, and that was simply another obvious form of immaturity, because they could dish it, but not receive it. When it comes to my discussion topics regarding D3, many posters agree with my statements, if you personally do not, so be it, I could care less. I am here to talk Diablo, not deal with whining entitled people.
So, we should blame Activision Blizzard , but not the Dev Team. They do as much as they can.
That could be true. But let's see how this works out: (made-up numbers)
Necro DLC. (1 class-2 stash - a pet.) 20-25 $.
2 million people buy it. totalling 40-50 million $.
Is it gonna be the Dev team who is gonna receive it for, as you told, using the resources to work at a better pace?
Or is it gonna be Activision Blizzard getting the cash, who ,then, is gonna invest this money in OW and WOW because their Return of Investment is better?
See what I did here? If we don't protest with our wallets, we are accepting the situation. Or even prolonging it, making it harder to solve.
Abut NO CONTENT hyperbole: Yeah, no content is an exaggeration. But reusing old skills, adapting d2 old models and animations to d3..., there's nothing NEW in here. Reused aint new. Content , following your logic, would be changing all skill coefficients; rendering old builds useless, creating new ones. Reusing.
What I call content is NEW CONTENT. And in over a year , there's been none.
THe other portion of the no-win is people like you, not getting what they want, then looking to blame.
Be a freaking adult and move on! Once the game adds content that you want, play it, if they do not, play something else. Stop complaining about it trying to stir a pot. Thats immature.
True. Some people will be happy with whatever is fed to them. Others will feel entitled to more, not because they have paid for it, but because they LOVE the franchise and would love to see new heights. Even if paying more was necesary.
Demon, the Dev team is not in a no win situation. My personal opinion is that they are misguided. That's the only way I can understand Nev (love her, she really has a passion) answering "Rekt" to people asking for new content in the game, after giving NO NEW content at all.
They want WIN? Seriously, not that hard. A small as fuck act 6. Insert the Necro with stitches in there. Put in some class, skills and sets balance (like it was given for free in 2.4) , and you have yourself 3.0. All is shiny as fuck for another couple of years.
But the key to that is content. Not reused, new content. Not reused, new classes. NEW .
This is important to remark: content is what makes a game playable and re-playable. Sets tuning and overall class balance is important, but imho secondary to "having something new to do", or in a words that Blizzard could appreciate more, "have some kind of competition".
And, as talked to exhaustion, D3 core flaws with the infinite paragon and the level 120 ++ gems create an unending playing field, and a new player will never ever be able to compete with a paragon 3000 with all gems 100+. That is a Loss-Loss situation. No new blood in greater rift competition--->prOs leave (see Quin). But the new blood cannot compete due to paragon and gems.
Your post is exactly why they are in a no win situation, thank you very much for the proof.
Its not worth going farther with this discussion other than saying this. Everything is an opinion, people need to understand what they post is just that, an opinion, and not the bloody truth they try to make it out to be.
To be fair, I think they hyped it up too much through their ambiguous responses.
When someone tweets 'I really hope this year Diablo gets a huge announcement at Blizzcon' and the official Diablo twitter replies "Blizzcon will be really cool this year :-)", a Necro pack and D1-inspired dungeon isn't exactly what people expected.
Then it loops into people overhyping things.
The tweet said "cool" not OVER THE TOP FUCKING AWESOME WORLD BREAKING CONTENT!!!!
Yes, which I think Blizzard shouldn't have responded. If there's any tweet to reply to, don't ambiguously confirm the one assuming a 'huge announcement' .
Yet then you have massive amounts of threads about how they never talk to the community.
You do realize the incessant whining puts the Development team and Company as a whole in a no win situation right?
Before even being hyped for anything like this you have to fix the core issues with this game. Half the sets in the game are worthless and the ones that are viable have no options for the most part for customization which leads me to LoN which it's whole purpose is customization but it's a weak weak joke. No caps on grs paragons and gem leveling make the game feel as though you never accomplish anything and that only little bit of end game content is boring as fuck. There's nothing to customize gear wise because you always end up with the same stats for damn near every build. Ya some things need to be addressed first before dumping more polished turds after the necro which holy crap that's all a bad joke, onto the pile
There are tons of options for customization, but no plateau so people wll always play the best.
I do not know how many times I need to say this, but it is simply the truth of the matter.
Well by customizing I don't mean putting on whatever you want and playing on normal I meant being able to be comfortable and successful in the end game but since all end game content is endless you can't possible feel like you're doing anything unless you play top gr builds only which is bullshit. In path of exile you can take basically any damage dealing skill, build around it well and you can run mid tier maps no problem and the amount of used builds for max end game is quite a bit with room for a lot of options both offense and defense wise. Reason being...no sets that force your skill set and layout your play style for you by devs who don't even seem to play the game their self
THat is what I am saying, when all you have to push for is infinite, then 1 build will always reign supreme.
However, take Helltooth WD for instance, you can just as easily swap out Endless walk for convention and a Hellfire, or remove Tasker from the equation and go for CoE in cube, and wear SMF and Unity with Hellfire or immune ammy.
You could also go firebats arachyr, zuni, or jade.
Really, the WD is in a great place when it comes to set and build diversity, and the other classes need to follow suit!
Rereading what you wrote, I did read it wrong, nice added point yea the WD does have a bit of change it can utilize which is goo. I've always thought each of the four sets for each class should focus on damage types and not damage to specific skills. One set could be aoe based and one dot based and one elemental type specific and one primary and secondary and one for pets blah blah but that way you would choose from skills that are in that damage type catagorey and go from there.
Before even being hyped for anything like this you have to fix the core issues with this game. Half the sets in the game are worthless and the ones that are viable have no options for the most part for customization which leads me to LoN which it's whole purpose is customization but it's a weak weak joke. No caps on grs paragons and gem leveling make the game feel as though you never accomplish anything and that only little bit of end game content is boring as fuck. There's nothing to customize gear wise because you always end up with the same stats for damn near every build. Ya some things need to be addressed first before dumping more polished turds after the necro which holy crap that's all a bad joke, onto the pile
There are tons of options for customization, but no plateau so people wll always play the best.
I do not know how many times I need to say this, but it is simply the truth of the matter.
Well by customizing I don't mean putting on whatever you want and playing on normal I meant being able to be comfortable and successful in the end game but since all end game content is endless you can't possible feel like you're doing anything unless you play top gr builds only which is bullshit. In path of exile you can take basically any damage dealing skill, build around it well and you can run mid tier maps no problem and the amount of used builds for max end game is quite a bit with room for a lot of options both offense and defense wise. Reason being...no sets that force your skill set and layout your play style for you by devs who don't even seem to play the game their self
THat is what I am saying, when all you have to push for is infinite, then 1 build will always reign supreme.
However, take Helltooth WD for instance, you can just as easily swap out Endless walk for convention and a Hellfire, or remove Tasker from the equation and go for CoE in cube, and wear SMF and Unity with Hellfire or immune ammy.
You could also go firebats arachyr, zuni, or jade.
Really, the WD is in a great place when it comes to set and build diversity, and the other classes need to follow suit!
Before even being hyped for anything like this you have to fix the core issues with this game. Half the sets in the game are worthless and the ones that are viable have no options for the most part for customization which leads me to LoN which it's whole purpose is customization but it's a weak weak joke. No caps on grs paragons and gem leveling make the game feel as though you never accomplish anything and that only little bit of end game content is boring as fuck. There's nothing to customize gear wise because you always end up with the same stats for damn near every build. Ya some things need to be addressed first before dumping more polished turds after the necro which holy crap that's all a bad joke, onto the pile
There are tons of options for customization, but no plateau so people wll always play the best.
I do not know how many times I need to say this, but it is simply the truth of the matter.
To be fair, I think they hyped it up too much through their ambiguous responses.
When someone tweets 'I really hope this year Diablo gets a huge announcement at Blizzcon' and the official Diablo twitter replies "Blizzcon will be really cool this year :-)", a Necro pack and D1-inspired dungeon isn't exactly what people expected.
Then it loops into people overhyping things.
The tweet said "cool" not OVER THE TOP FUCKING AWESOME WORLD BREAKING CONTENT!!!!
And the fact is a January crap event and 1 year ahead, probably, till necro pack with some reused skills and NO CONTENT.
This is what , as a fact, we will have been given in over a year of "passion development".
At this point, I'm inclined to believe you are part of the d3 development skeleton crew.
No one else sees your "facts". And guess what? We would all love to see them.....but they are not there.
Please stop taking things off topic with negativity, thanks!
You are right, I'm being quite negative with the future of this game. I'll give you that.
But I'm trying to express my utter frustration with what I expected on the 20th anniversary of our fav franchise.
Frank Pearce might be a big guy in Blizz. But the real point of him going to the fans as the new face of diablo is...that there is no new face of Diablo.
With maximum respect to the guy, they were "supposedly" hiring a new game director, since Mosqueira run away from there. And their new director, the person who is gonna bring the franchise to the future is.....a founding Blizzard member? That's new blood in there , huh!
At least we were awarded with 5 Diablo minutes in the starting ceremony; that's a big improvement from 0 the former year.
Some positivism in there! Happy 20s.
Actually, there is a new face, they simply have not announced the individual yet.
The bottom line is that top end employees would not talk about the game if the series was dead. People like going to the extreme because a game is not 100% what they want, no offense, you are this type of person. The facts are that they have an unannounced project, filled multiple positions within the last 6 months including lead game designer, and openly stated at Blizzcon that contrary to vocal minority belief, this game and the entire series are not being overlooked, and are a MAJOR part of the future of Blizzard entertainment.
Beyond that, what is the point of arguing and complaining over what is. They said what Diablo 3 was going to be, and made adjustments to improve it after a massive Vanilla fail. They gave us tons of free content which they should not have. It has been 11 months since the last major patch content, so I can understand why people are impatient, but again, I feel the lot of you are diving off the deep end blaming the company because of your own lavish expectations which were likely completely irrational and based on nothing but self desire.
Your last comment culminates everything I said, when you mention 5 minutes, even though Diablo 3 was on stage for around 28 minutes give or take and was actually 25% of the opening ceremony.
IF, and that's a big if, we get an expansion, it'll be at LEAST two years from now out, probably more.
There's no way they'd release a whole new class by itself if an expansion was anywhere in sight, and the necro is at least 8 months away. They also are using the wording "character pack", which of course means there will be more.
I'm near certain there will never be another expansion for D3. We'll get something like a character pack once a year, with maybe a new zone and some sort of vanity item with it.
And considering there hasn't been anything close to a whisper about changing and fixing ANY of the fundamental problems most of us have been bringing up for years, this all doesn't bode well.
If that's all that's left of the future of this game, I think I'm out. Hopefully I'm wrong though, but history has repeated itself too many times with this game.
And all this being said, expansion is an outdated word anyways.
A DLC pack is the exact same thing, but more modern. A DLC pack is typically lesser variations of content, offered more frequently. Instead of doing an expansion 2 years later, you will typically see 3-4 DLC's in that time.
Fundamental issues are subjective, and the ones that people on this website talk about, typically balance of current sets, etc.... they have in fact addressed this as something they are always looking at when able. They are adding DX11 64 bit via the next patch, which opens up floodgates of potential changes as performance will not be as much of a concern given DX11 64 bit can handle much more.
The bottom line is that when you have Frank Pearce talk about the future of Diablo 3 and the franchise as a whole, MAJOR THINGS ARE COMING. Frank is a massive center piece within Blizzard, as a cofounder of the company, and the fact he talked about D3 in the opening ceremony is being far overlooked.
They did not humiliate a damn thing, you people need to drop it!!!!
You think that the darkening of Tristram and motivation to create the Necro is nothing? All World of Warcraft did for its 10 year anniversary was offer an xp boost, and give a small bag of goodies.
The passion they are pouring into D3 is evident, they still care about the game immensely, and the lot of you need to stop acting like self-righteous people and see the facts!
This is Diablo, not Warcraft. Any sort of comparison you try to make is futile. Nor we Diablo fans want to be like them.
They are a cash machine and we are the black sheep of Blizz offspring. They get 3 huge content packs a year.
Of course they embarrassed the franchise legacy. What you, and the other 3 fanboyz here, want to believe does not change what we have been given.
I do not want to "imagine" facts, as you do. I want FACTS.
And the fact is a January crap event and 1 year ahead, probably, till necro pack with some reused skills and NO CONTENT.
This is what , as a fact, we will have been given in over a year of "passion development".
At this point, I'm inclined to believe you are part of the d3 development skeleton crew.
No one else sees your "facts". And guess what? We would all love to see them.....but they are not there.
Please stop taking things off topic with negativity, thanks!
Any hope for a new expansion or is diablo only going to get more content patches. If so does anyone else feel the content patches should follow path of exiles style of reworking the classes? New items and ways to get them are nice but it would be fun to experiment with different skills again.
patch 2.5 is gonna be bigger for sure because there must some reason behind this mini patch 2.4.1 which they havent done for a long while.
That's only if 2.5 ever actually materializes. It's quite possible, sadly, that D3 has reached the end of its production lifespan. There's really not much that can easily be changed anymore, since set dungeons ensure that the sets they apply to will not be drastically altered. Lots of cosmetic stuff for future seasons has already been data mined. As sad as it sounds, I'm suspicious that new content for D3 will only dwindle from here on out. Maybe number tweaks and power creep, sure, but it's seeming less and less likely any dramatic or sweeping changes are on their way.
2.5 is very likely the Necro Pack. We know right now that it will come out after July 1st, and it will feature the Necromancer, 2 stash tabs, and much more.
We have no clue what the "MUCH MORE" i though.
Being that it will be a larger patch, there is going to be a lot of content other than the Necro, but you will need to pay for the Necro and 2 stash tabs.
Blizzard North was independently working on D3 when WoW was gearing up for release, the project failed on their watch as so much key talent jumped to flagship. The D3 we have was built from scratch a bit after they shut down blizz north, meaning only 5+ years of actual development.
And it really was not even 5+ because the new team was not assembled until around 2008, and only scraps were developed up to that point.
4 Years for a fledgling game designer and little budget room will lead to garbage, we got to witness that first hand.
Things are changing within the company now, which will certainly lead to improvements.
Yeah dream on nothing will come except some halfhearted january dungeon and eventually the necro and armor rack late 2017, which is fine.. but not really what the game needed.
Blizz and a few of the dedicated D3 players could have taken this game somwhere, but Blizz is a big machine and I guess pets, transmog and the occasional useless legendary gem is what the game has come to. Sure necro looks cool, but the armory is really stuff anyone with 1000 hours D3 woudl have implemented years ago for free.
I do enjoy the game, but Blizzard is fuck all passionate about it..we used to get weekend buffs and events.. now they dont even care to change anything for new seasons except a new portrait or pet. Stop dreaming its not a conspiracy to make something grand new and shiny, its just a big corporation, killing its game slowly while selling as many D3 copies on post like this.
Nothing is a dream, it is people like you that want to ignore facts as presented to you.
Something along those lines (1st person, open-world survival) would give the franchise a nice reboot.
Imagine if they could provide the dark-tense atmosphere on d1 and (part of) d2 in a 1st person game.
It's so freaking sad that we have to try to find hidden clues in Job openings, after they decide to humiliate the Diablo franchise on its 20th anniversary.
They did not humiliate a damn thing, you people need to drop it!!!!
You think that the darkening of Tristram and motivation to create the Necro is nothing? All World of Warcraft did for its 10 year anniversary was offer an xp boost, and give a small bag of goodies.
The passion they are pouring into D3 is evident, they still care about the game immensely, and the lot of you need to stop acting like self-righteous people and see the facts!
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Then you post this garbage.... point again proven, thanks!
I am not trying to provoke, I am trying to teach. You are too immature to realize that your constant complaining about the game does nothing but put you into a sour mood, and does nothing but destroy/elevate your expectations of a game beyond normality.
The bottom line is that when something in life does not provide what you are looking for, as an adult, you move on. The wrong decision is to come into a forum, attack people like you are in the above post, and constantly complain about lavish expectations you yourself built and designed.
That is what I meant when I said, "People like you are what create the no-win situaton". Regardless of what they do for the game, you will have an even higher expectation of what they should give you. You will never offer a single suggestion to fix the game, instead constantly complaining about what is wrong, then they will do what you suggest, and you will complain how that sucks now instead, and have a different expectation.
Bottom line, players that live to complain are terribly toxic for the community. That is why I begin to take offense to them. My little tirade of copy cat was the only time people told me to stop posting anything, and that was simply another obvious form of immaturity, because they could dish it, but not receive it. When it comes to my discussion topics regarding D3, many posters agree with my statements, if you personally do not, so be it, I could care less. I am here to talk Diablo, not deal with whining entitled people.
Be a freaking adult and move on! Once the game adds content that you want, play it, if they do not, play something else. Stop complaining about it trying to stir a pot. Thats immature.
Its not worth going farther with this discussion other than saying this. Everything is an opinion, people need to understand what they post is just that, an opinion, and not the bloody truth they try to make it out to be.
You do realize the incessant whining puts the Development team and Company as a whole in a no win situation right?
However, take Helltooth WD for instance, you can just as easily swap out Endless walk for convention and a Hellfire, or remove Tasker from the equation and go for CoE in cube, and wear SMF and Unity with Hellfire or immune ammy.
You could also go firebats arachyr, zuni, or jade.
Really, the WD is in a great place when it comes to set and build diversity, and the other classes need to follow suit!
There are tons of options for customization, but no plateau so people wll always play the best.
I do not know how many times I need to say this, but it is simply the truth of the matter.
The tweet said "cool" not OVER THE TOP FUCKING AWESOME WORLD BREAKING CONTENT!!!!
The bottom line is that top end employees would not talk about the game if the series was dead. People like going to the extreme because a game is not 100% what they want, no offense, you are this type of person. The facts are that they have an unannounced project, filled multiple positions within the last 6 months including lead game designer, and openly stated at Blizzcon that contrary to vocal minority belief, this game and the entire series are not being overlooked, and are a MAJOR part of the future of Blizzard entertainment.
Beyond that, what is the point of arguing and complaining over what is. They said what Diablo 3 was going to be, and made adjustments to improve it after a massive Vanilla fail. They gave us tons of free content which they should not have. It has been 11 months since the last major patch content, so I can understand why people are impatient, but again, I feel the lot of you are diving off the deep end blaming the company because of your own lavish expectations which were likely completely irrational and based on nothing but self desire.
Your last comment culminates everything I said, when you mention 5 minutes, even though Diablo 3 was on stage for around 28 minutes give or take and was actually 25% of the opening ceremony.
And all this being said, expansion is an outdated word anyways.
A DLC pack is the exact same thing, but more modern. A DLC pack is typically lesser variations of content, offered more frequently. Instead of doing an expansion 2 years later, you will typically see 3-4 DLC's in that time.
Fundamental issues are subjective, and the ones that people on this website talk about, typically balance of current sets, etc.... they have in fact addressed this as something they are always looking at when able. They are adding DX11 64 bit via the next patch, which opens up floodgates of potential changes as performance will not be as much of a concern given DX11 64 bit can handle much more.
The bottom line is that when you have Frank Pearce talk about the future of Diablo 3 and the franchise as a whole, MAJOR THINGS ARE COMING. Frank is a massive center piece within Blizzard, as a cofounder of the company, and the fact he talked about D3 in the opening ceremony is being far overlooked.
We have no clue what the "MUCH MORE" i though.
Being that it will be a larger patch, there is going to be a lot of content other than the Necro, but you will need to pay for the Necro and 2 stash tabs.
4 Years for a fledgling game designer and little budget room will lead to garbage, we got to witness that first hand.
Things are changing within the company now, which will certainly lead to improvements.
Whatever, to each their own.
You think that the darkening of Tristram and motivation to create the Necro is nothing? All World of Warcraft did for its 10 year anniversary was offer an xp boost, and give a small bag of goodies.
The passion they are pouring into D3 is evident, they still care about the game immensely, and the lot of you need to stop acting like self-righteous people and see the facts!