only Hephesto the Armorer has first part to his name, The Smith is just called The Smith, likewise for The Butcher, least in the games anyway, it could be different in the novels or lore, if the feature.
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not sure, he might be, but he is probably something else, mutilated angel, but he followers are definitely overlords.
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the only other one i can recall is Inarius, an he is still in his prison, which although on the map of Sanctuary, has not featured in any games (thus far)
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I looked for a diabloII one but to no avail...
id have to judge 5-25 years... the the things he has seen and been through can age a man very fast
with Solomir at the helm, a d2/lod one should be too hard.
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Æons agoThe Beginning: The Great Conflict also begins. -990 Izual attacks Hellforge and falls to the dark hordes of chaos. -985 The dark demonblade Shadowfang is created. -490 The rise of Man. -480 The Sin War begins. -40 Inarius descends to the mortal realm and begins to construct his cathedral. -30 Inarius lays siege to and destroys the infernal temple of Mephisto. -25 The forces of Mephisto defeat Inarius and his followers, laying waste to the cathedral and surrounding countryside. -10 The mage-clans of the East begin to form. 1 The Vizjerei become the largest and most powerful of the clans. Other major clans are the Ennead and the Ammit. 240 Horazón and Bartuc rise to the fore in the Vizjerei mage-clan. 250 Bartuc turns against the Vizjerei, becoming known as the Warlord of Blood. 510 The Dark Exile begins with the overthrow of the Three. 515 The Three cause strife and chaos in the Mortal Realm. Ravaging of the East for centuries. 520 Civil war in Hell. 1005 The three soul-stones meant to imprison the prime Evils are given to members of the eastern mage-clans. 1010 The Horadrim Order unites wizards from the many mage-clans. 1145 Mephisto and Baal captured in soul-stones and buried beneath the desert.1025The Horadrim pursue Diablo into the West. 1050 Baal is imprisoned with Tal Rasha. 1100 Jered Cain’s Horadrim troupe captures Diablo in Khanduras. 1120 The Horadrim dwindle in numbers. 1140 The Horadrim begin to fragment back into individual mage-clans. There is feuding and bitter rivalry among the clans 1145 Mephisto relocates to the Eastern Capitol. 1180 The rise of the Western Empire of Westmarch 1230 Zakarum, the Religion of the Light takes hold in the West 1240 Leoric becomes King of Khanduras. 1245 Leoric and Lazarus use decrepit Horadrim monastery at Tristram as HQ. Lazarus’ will is dominated by Diablo: Lazarus releases Diablo from the Soulstone 1246 Albrecht becomes the physical focus and incarnation of Diablo’s power. War between Westmarch and Khanduras breaks Leoric’s army. Lachdanan revolts against Leoric. 1250 Diablo is ‘defeated’ by a great hero beneath Tristram, and the hero sets off for the East.
well that gets us to the end of Diablo 1, but the exact timeline for Diablo 2 is still up for debate, esp. with the fact that Marius have "aged" conciderably, between what he looks like in the flashbacks and what he looks like whe nhe is retelling his story
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i think there might have been a bit of LOTR in it, i.e the stones can only be destroyed in the same fire in which they were forged, but maybe not.
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But when you say the missing part of the Soulstone, do you mean that Tal Rasha is the other part? Because that Soulstone Marius has is all that's left of Baal's Soulstone.
I just didn't know if you were thinking that the shattered pieces still existed in some form. Cause I think whatever shattered off the original piece, just turned into bits of regular stone.
yeh i figure marius' piece is whats left of the soulstone after it broke.
it mentions the stone as a whole. it mentions the stone breaking and tal rash replacing the broken part, and it mentions marius holding the remain stone.
i dont recall any mention of the broken piece or pieces after Tal Rasha replaces it or them. ive never really thought about what happened to the actual broken piece or pieces, i assumed they held no essence or someone or something would have picked them up.
we see Baal/Tal Rasha go after Marius' piece but not the others, this is what led me to believe they contain no power.
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I've also found it interesting that Baal/Tal Rasha was walking around at all without his Soulstone. Cause once imprisoned in a Soulstone, there seems no existing in the mortal world without a mortal host. Unless you exist just inside the Soulstone which was the case for Diablo in the first game until he had control of Prince Albrecht. So I've often wondered what was unique about Baal that allowed him to exist while someone else has the stone that his soul or essence is supposedly held in.
the prime evils once existed i nthe world of sanctuary with soulstones they were then captured one by one and placed with a soulstone. Baal possibly due to his destructive nature, broke his, thus a sustitute for the missing piece was needed, Tal Rasha chose to be the substitute and wrestle with Baal for all etentity.
one of the NPCs and i foget which (probably cain or that healy chick in act II) say Baal is in posession of the world's greatest mage. Baal could walk around without part of his soulstone because Tal Rasha was sacrificed to replace the broken part, in a way Tal Rasha is the soulstone and thus acts like the other stones, and must be in the host. but since there is still the bit of the stone that marius has, Baal seems weaker, and not at full strength, hence he would want to find the missing part (which marius has).
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not need proof. But the text is crap. explain why somebody wold seek destction of evreything?
oh ok then, yeh it does kinda seem weird.
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here is the text actually in the manual, i would post the actually pages but they are in PDF and i too noob to figure it out
the full manual is about 12000kb, too big for an attachment.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
The Dark Lords of Hell Baal, Lord of Destruction (Excidium) The soldiers of Baal seek the undoing of the universe. They strive for ultimate disorder and destruction, and to this end covet the destruction of all they behold. Order is abhorrence to them and these creatures are the manifestation of the forces of chaos. Diablo, Lord of Terror (Metus) Using illusion and fear as their greatest weapons, the attendants to Diablo are formidable adversaries. They prefer to wait for their opponent to display a moment of weakness before they attack. Equally dangerous in the dark or in your dreams, they are the fears of man made flesh by Diablo’s will. These nightmares lurk at the edges of mortal perception from the moment that you take your first breath - and they long to be with you when your take your last. Mephisto, the Lord of Hatred (Odium) The legions of Mephisto are driven by a hatred of all living things - especially those who are pure of heart. He counts as minions both the walking dead, who forever seek vengeance upon the living, as well as a host of demonically corrupted creatures whose twisted limbs and misshapen bodies leave them in eternal agony and rage.
a very good read indeed
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But I believe it was mentioned how he and the Horadrim underestimated the Prime Evils and that in Tal Rasha's arrogance, he decided he could contend forever with the demon. Yes, it was supposedly a selfless act, but it was also part ego.
yeah that does seem fitting, and baal isa powerful demon, probably more powerful then the rest- [/quote]
he definitely the most destructive of the three, he seems to be the only one to have broken even part of a soulstone, but it is Diablo that is labelled as the leader of the three. which is a little stange as it is said he is the younger of the three as well. with Mephisto said to be the oldest, you'd think he would be the leader.
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Tal Rasha would know what he was getting him self into, he did so wiloingly with no regrets or quarms.
So i think it was Baal's doing, not Tal Rasha asking for a way out, for he would know if baal was ever to be released it would spell almost certain doom for all. it was Tal Rasha's duty to wrestle with the essence of Baal for all eternity, and his alone.
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Marius was tricked into removing the stone. he sees what he thinks is Tal Rasha but is actually Baal, saying "please release me..." and so he does.
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with Solomir at the helm, a d2/lod one should be too hard.
-990 Izual attacks Hellforge and falls to the dark hordes of chaos.
-985 The dark demonblade Shadowfang is created.
-490 The rise of Man.
-480 The Sin War begins.
-40 Inarius descends to the mortal realm and begins to construct his cathedral.
-30 Inarius lays siege to and destroys the infernal temple of Mephisto.
-25 The forces of Mephisto defeat Inarius and his followers, laying waste to the cathedral and surrounding countryside.
-10 The mage-clans of the East begin to form.
1 The Vizjerei become the largest and most powerful of the clans. Other major clans are the Ennead and the Ammit.
240 Horazón and Bartuc rise to the fore in the Vizjerei mage-clan.
250 Bartuc turns against the Vizjerei, becoming known as the Warlord of Blood.
510 The Dark Exile begins with the overthrow of the Three.
515 The Three cause strife and chaos in the Mortal Realm. Ravaging of the East for centuries.
520 Civil war in Hell.
1005 The three soul-stones meant to imprison the prime Evils are given to members of the eastern mage-clans.
1010 The Horadrim Order unites wizards from the many mage-clans.
1145 Mephisto and Baal captured in soul-stones and buried beneath the desert.1025The Horadrim pursue Diablo into the West.
1050 Baal is imprisoned with Tal Rasha.
1100 Jered Cain’s Horadrim troupe captures Diablo in Khanduras.
1120 The Horadrim dwindle in numbers.
1140 The Horadrim begin to fragment back into individual mage-clans. There is feuding and bitter rivalry among the clans
1145 Mephisto relocates to the Eastern Capitol.
1180 The rise of the Western Empire of Westmarch
1230 Zakarum, the Religion of the Light takes hold in the West
1240 Leoric becomes King of Khanduras.
1245 Leoric and Lazarus use decrepit Horadrim monastery at Tristram as HQ. Lazarus’ will is dominated by Diablo: Lazarus releases Diablo from the Soulstone
1246 Albrecht becomes the physical focus and incarnation of Diablo’s power. War between Westmarch and Khanduras breaks Leoric’s army. Lachdanan revolts against Leoric.
1250 Diablo is ‘defeated’ by a great hero beneath Tristram, and the hero sets off for the East.
well that gets us to the end of Diablo 1, but the exact timeline for Diablo 2 is still up for debate, esp. with the fact that Marius have "aged" conciderably, between what he looks like in the flashbacks and what he looks like whe nhe is retelling his story
yeh i figure marius' piece is whats left of the soulstone after it broke.
it mentions the stone as a whole. it mentions the stone breaking and tal rash replacing the broken part, and it mentions marius holding the remain stone.
i dont recall any mention of the broken piece or pieces after Tal Rasha replaces it or them. ive never really thought about what happened to the actual broken piece or pieces, i assumed they held no essence or someone or something would have picked them up.
we see Baal/Tal Rasha go after Marius' piece but not the others, this is what led me to believe they contain no power.
the prime evils once existed i nthe world of sanctuary with soulstones they were then captured one by one and placed with a soulstone. Baal possibly due to his destructive nature, broke his, thus a sustitute for the missing piece was needed, Tal Rasha chose to be the substitute and wrestle with Baal for all etentity.
one of the NPCs and i foget which (probably cain or that healy chick in act II) say Baal is in posession of the world's greatest mage. Baal could walk around without part of his soulstone because Tal Rasha was sacrificed to replace the broken part, in a way Tal Rasha is the soulstone and thus acts like the other stones, and must be in the host. but since there is still the bit of the stone that marius has, Baal seems weaker, and not at full strength, hence he would want to find the missing part (which marius has).
oh ok then, yeh it does kinda seem weird.
you want proof? you got it.
here is the text actually in the manual, i would post the actually pages but they are in PDF and i too noob to figure it out
the full manual is about 12000kb, too big for an attachment.
what ?! its what it says in the manual.
Baal, Lord of Destruction (Excidium)
The soldiers of Baal seek the undoing of the universe. They strive for ultimate disorder and destruction, and to this end covet the destruction of all they behold. Order is abhorrence to them and these creatures are the manifestation of the forces of chaos.
Diablo, Lord of Terror (Metus)
Using illusion and fear as their greatest weapons, the attendants to Diablo are formidable adversaries. They prefer to wait for their opponent to display a moment of weakness before they attack. Equally dangerous in the dark or in your dreams, they are the fears of man made flesh by Diablo’s will. These nightmares lurk at the edges of mortal perception from the moment that you take your first breath - and they long to be with you when your take your last.
Mephisto, the Lord of Hatred (Odium)
The legions of Mephisto are driven by a hatred of all living things - especially those who are pure of heart. He counts as minions both the walking dead, who forever seek vengeance upon the living, as well as a host of demonically corrupted creatures whose twisted limbs and misshapen bodies leave them in eternal agony and rage.
a very good read indeed
yeah that does seem fitting, and baal isa powerful demon, probably more powerful then the rest- [/quote]
he definitely the most destructive of the three, he seems to be the only one to have broken even part of a soulstone, but it is Diablo that is labelled as the leader of the three. which is a little stange as it is said he is the younger of the three as well. with Mephisto said to be the oldest, you'd think he would be the leader.
So i think it was Baal's doing, not Tal Rasha asking for a way out, for he would know if baal was ever to be released it would spell almost certain doom for all. it was Tal Rasha's duty to wrestle with the essence of Baal for all eternity, and his alone.