Yes, Menarus. That is exactly Elfen's point. Your answers are vague and indefinite. We can guess, but we don't have any solid facts yet. This thread is supposed to be more about answering questions with solid facts than it is theories and guesses.
Thanks for coming out of hiding by the way. Its good to know that there are more people who actually know the Diablo lore.
I have a question concerning the Diablo 1 manual. Is it possible that on page 47 (the spells and magic section) that tyrael makes his first appearance to fans in the text of the spell Ressurection? If not this still may prove to be an angels intervention in assisting the Horadrim.
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1. Why did the Hero of Diablo 1 choose to put the soulstone into his head rather then to destroy it?
2. If someone like King Leoric had a strong enough will to not be fully possessed by Diablo, how on earth did the Hero get fully possessed? Wouldn't he have an even greater spirit?
3. How much time is there between the Hero of D1 slaying Diablo to the heroes of D2 saving Deckard Cain?
4. Where does it say the Hero of D1 has a 'dead' daughter? Is this exclusive to the warrior, or does this happen with the Mage and Rogue as well?
I was really young when I played Diablo 1, so the storyline elements were really lost on me (unfortunately.)
3. How much time is there between the Hero of D1 slaying Diablo to the heroes of D2 saving Deckard Cain?!
After reading Cain's journal on D3.com I would say not very long. It seems like the hero left Tristram almost right after he killed Diablo, and it wasn't long after that that Tristram was overrun by demons.
EDIT: alright, im not sure how the months translate in Diablo, but assuming that there was only a one month elapse, it was 12-13 days after the hero left for the East.
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1. Why did the Hero of Diablo 1 choose to put the soulstone into his head rather then to destroy it?
2. If someone like King Leoric had a strong enough will to not be fully possessed by Diablo, how on earth did the Hero get fully possessed? Wouldn't he have an even greater spirit?
3. How much time is there between the Hero of D1 slaying Diablo to the heroes of D2 saving Deckard Cain?
4. Where does it say the Hero of D1 has a 'dead' daughter? Is this exclusive to the warrior, or does this happen with the Mage and Rogue as well?
1. He thought he was strong enough to keep the demon at bay.
2. Diablo was weak. Diablo did not have enough power for a full posession. He is much stronger when he possesses Albrecht.
3. Months to a year. Not a lot really. Need to check cain's diary, but I think it's only about a year from Diablo getting killed in D1 until Baal dying in LOD. If that, seems like months.
4. That is not canonical as far as I can remember.
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I have a question concerning the Diablo 1 manual. Is it possible that on page 47 (the spells and magic section) that tyrael makes his first appearance to fans in the text of the spell Ressurection? If not this still may prove to be an angels intervention in assisting the Horadrim.
Of course Tyrael helped the Horadrim. He was the one that brought the mages together to form the Horadrim in the first place. But note that Tyrael is about the only angel to interfere with Sanctuary. The Archangel Yaerius who formed the Zakarum is another one.
In ages past, the Archangel Yaerius visited a young ascetic named Akarat and revealed to him the tenets of what was to become the religion of Zakarum. These teachings stressed the necessity of resisting all things evil, and embracing, with total devotion, the Light. The angel appointed Akarat to be the prophet of these new teachings, and bade him take the word to the people of all lands. This new religion spoke directly to the common man, and the people of Kurast embraced it. They sent disciples throughout Kehjistan to spread the word. Popular religious leaders soon sprung up, endorsed by the new church, and within half a century Zakarum was the dominant order of faith and binding political force in the East. As the religion of Zakarum took hold in the East, they encountered many enclaves of demonic followers. Some of these were fully corrupted, and easily identified, but many were under subtle demonic influence, and appeared to be noble and good. The Hand of Zakarum was an order of warriors consecrated by the church, and given powers of Light. These Paladins led the armies of Kehjistan against the forces of darkness, pursuing them tirelessly and leaving no territory unexamined. It was often a difficult task to sort out the wicked from the loyal, but they were relentless in their quest.
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What significance does the Horadrim (sp) hold? And how is Cain related to this group as its last member. And what happened to the other members?
O.K. so a few more than one questions...
The Horadrim are significant as they are the ones that captured the Prime Evils into Soulstones in the first place. They consist of the most powerful mages from various clans that joined together in an alliance. This is a rare thing, as the mage clans are almost always at war with each other. They are also the ones who created all the portal and waypoint locations, and they invented many powerful spells and imbued them into scrolls. Nowadays, the original spells have been lost and only the scrolls remain.
Cain is the last descendant of the Horadrim. His great great great grandfather was Jered Cain.
As Hell's forces gained ascendancy in the mortal realm, the disparate and often mutually unfriendly mage-clans realized that divided they would surely fall. Thus, the Horadrim Order, a collection of smaller mage-clans, formed. They united to put an end to Hell's plans.
Despite their power, The Horadrim were mortal, and the faltered before the infernal advance. A gift from Heaven turned the tide: the Soulstones. Soulstones can entomb the spirit of any entity, even the raging spirit of a Prime Evil. So armed, the Horadrim captured a seemingly unprepared Mephisto in a Soulstone. The Horadrim split into two groups, each led by one accounted mighty in the arcane arts: Jered Cain set out after Diablo, Tal-Rasha after Baal.
In 1103, Jered Cain's Band of Horadrim captured Diablo in the country of Khanduras in a conflict so terrible that all but Cain died in the effort. Cain buried the stone near the river Talsande, and he had a Horadric Monastery built over the site.
During the monastery's ascendancy, Horadric monks filled the structure. Over the years, they tunneled several layers of catacombs beneath it. The small Hamlet of Tristram soom formed near the monastery. For a time, the Horadric monks and the good folks of Tristram lived in harmony.
well Mephisto did indeed corrupt the zakarum, council he lured the greatest of them to shatter the stone, by putting the largest piece into himself the council leader let mephisto manifest a Physical form in Sanctuary. The rest of the shards he sat into the zakarum council members ( which you fight in D2 A3-> Travincal).
It was Mephistos influence, over the counil members that led the zakarum to send King Leoric( i hope you are familirised with him) and his men to Tristam to rule there.
And it was Diablo that first corrupted Lazarus into freeing him, and after trying to take over Leroic; yet he was to strong. thus Lazarus kidnapped the kings young sun Prince Albrecht. this was the host you fought in Diablo1.
Hope that cleared it up =),glad to help
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Mephisto sent King Leoric and His followers to Tristram? i thought he was only a foreign king. Never thought they were unknowningly being sent to their very own enemy and doom :confused:
Yes, I knew all that already... XD sorta said that in my post... thanks, was just a bit confused on whether or not mephisto was able to corrupt from the soulstone... I still don't really see how that was possible, lol.
Actually lazarus was a member of the zakarum, like I said, Mephisto sent him... and it was mephisto controlling him, not diablo, thats why diablo needed the boy... if he could have taken Lazarus, he would have.
King was from Westmarch. He was a former member of the Knights of Westmarch.
Mephisto didn't send him to Tristram. He saw it as an area of heathens, so he moved in to convert them, such is his task as a zealot of the Zakarum.
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Yeh, my bad, I went back and looked at something. The manual says he was lured to the depths by diablo. Although, I wonder why then he never took Lazarus. *Shrugs* That was discussed earlier in this thread, I believe that was when the mephisto theory was brought up.
A little question. The archangel Hadriel. Why is he in hell? And why is he there? Is there anything canonical about him aside of the fact that he appears in Diablo 2 and tells you that you should smash the soulstone first? And why is an angel in hell? To me Hadriel is intriguing at the least...
he guards the entrance to the domain of Diablo, i know nothing more than that hell be happy though, i think he heals you and he is quite a waster :):D
They have male amazons in diablo lore, they are kind of stay-at-home dad's or society leaders though, only amazon women are warriors.
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In the Amazon culture, only the women serve as warriors, their intrinsic superior dexterity and lithe body structures are better suited to combat in the dense rainforest environs of the islands. Their society is far from stratified, however, as [B]men[/B'] are responsible for any number of positions in the community, government, and clergy, as well as merchant and agricultural occupations.
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Currently there is no Hoplite/Spartan-esque male warrior type in Diablo. At least at this point in time.
Maybe in D3 we may see a something like what you describe, but we are getting ahead of ourselves, We are talking about the past (prior to d3) here. SO the answer is no. Not unless it's the Barbarian tribe, the Snake Tribe.
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Warriors of the Snake Tribe, who favor the spear and are known for their cold eyes and sibilant battle chants. Only seasoned warriors may apply to the spear the techniques of the Snake-a patient teacher that reminds us that all foes can be defeated in time. These are lessons learned from the many dangerous pit vipers that breed among the steppes surrounding Mount Arreat.
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Thanks for coming out of hiding by the way. Its good to know that there are more people who actually know the Diablo lore.
1. Why did the Hero of Diablo 1 choose to put the soulstone into his head rather then to destroy it?
2. If someone like King Leoric had a strong enough will to not be fully possessed by Diablo, how on earth did the Hero get fully possessed? Wouldn't he have an even greater spirit?
3. How much time is there between the Hero of D1 slaying Diablo to the heroes of D2 saving Deckard Cain?
4. Where does it say the Hero of D1 has a 'dead' daughter? Is this exclusive to the warrior, or does this happen with the Mage and Rogue as well?
I was really young when I played Diablo 1, so the storyline elements were really lost on me (unfortunately.)
Thanks in advance!
What significance does the Horadrim (sp) hold? And how is Cain related to this group as its last member. And what happened to the other members?
O.K. so a few more than one questions...
After reading Cain's journal on D3.com I would say not very long. It seems like the hero left Tristram almost right after he killed Diablo, and it wasn't long after that that Tristram was overrun by demons.
EDIT: alright, im not sure how the months translate in Diablo, but assuming that there was only a one month elapse, it was 12-13 days after the hero left for the East.
1. He thought he was strong enough to keep the demon at bay.
2. Diablo was weak. Diablo did not have enough power for a full posession. He is much stronger when he possesses Albrecht.
3. Months to a year. Not a lot really. Need to check cain's diary, but I think it's only about a year from Diablo getting killed in D1 until Baal dying in LOD. If that, seems like months.
4. That is not canonical as far as I can remember.
Of course Tyrael helped the Horadrim. He was the one that brought the mages together to form the Horadrim in the first place. But note that Tyrael is about the only angel to interfere with Sanctuary. The Archangel Yaerius who formed the Zakarum is another one.
The Horadrim are significant as they are the ones that captured the Prime Evils into Soulstones in the first place. They consist of the most powerful mages from various clans that joined together in an alliance. This is a rare thing, as the mage clans are almost always at war with each other. They are also the ones who created all the portal and waypoint locations, and they invented many powerful spells and imbued them into scrolls. Nowadays, the original spells have been lost and only the scrolls remain.
Cain is the last descendant of the Horadrim. His great great great grandfather was Jered Cain.
Mephisto currupted Lazurus, who went to tristram and smashed diablo's soulstone and then gave him albrecht's body (releasing diablo)
Diablo, in the form of the wanderer, went to tal rasha's tomb and freeded baal, after marius removed the soulstone from tal rasha...
then in the act 3 cinnamatics, it just showed mephisto being free, he opened the portal to hell and diablo went through it...
it never mentioned him getting freed from the soulstone... so how'd he do it? Was he able to currupt the zakarum from within the soulstone?
If thats the case... then why didn't diablo do the same?
Mephisto sent King Leoric and His followers to Tristram? i thought he was only a foreign king. Never thought they were unknowningly being sent to their very own enemy and doom :confused:
Actually lazarus was a member of the zakarum, like I said, Mephisto sent him... and it was mephisto controlling him, not diablo, thats why diablo needed the boy... if he could have taken Lazarus, he would have.
Mephisto didn't send him to Tristram. He saw it as an area of heathens, so he moved in to convert them, such is his task as a zealot of the Zakarum.
he guards the entrance to the domain of Diablo, i know nothing more than that hell be happy though, i think he heals you and he is quite a waster :):D
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They can use spears, and shields, and throw the spears or melee with them.
Is there a Male equivalent to that? I didn't really like the Zon didn't have the skills I liked.
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Wise ElderUnfortunately there aren't male Zons that I know of. I mean obviously they mate with someone but... <shrugs>
Lol I meant a male equivalent that uses Spears and shields and is more defensive oriented.
Maybe in D3 we may see a something like what you describe, but we are getting ahead of ourselves, We are talking about the past (prior to d3) here. SO the answer is no. Not unless it's the Barbarian tribe, the Snake Tribe.