No dedicated servers = no good connections, no communities, and no modding.
These are the only advantages that a PC has over a console in online gaming, and when Infinity Ward, a leading developer, takes these away, other developers will follow suit and we will see the end of PC gaming.
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Now those who are extremely hardcore into the PC versions of Call of Duty may find another slightly disappointing bit of news to do with Modern Warfare 2 ? players won't have access to the console for advanced settings and options.
and
Vince Zampella of Infinity Ward confirmed the news in a community chat when a player asked if it'd be possible to change the FOV, weapon damage, perks, graphical debris, breathing sway, etc.
Zampella simply replied, "We would like you to play the game the way we designed and balanced it."
Other interesting Q&A bits from Mackey McCandlish include:
Mackey-IW: Players do not control who hosts.
Mackey-IW: Only players capable of hosting will be host.
Mackey-IW: Games cap out at 9v9. The software has great latency
tolerance. See above!
Mackey-IW: I've been playing mainly with around 100ms ping and it was great.
this is pissing me off some more, they're really trying to persuade me not to buy their garbage.
I don't get what the big whine about dedicated server is all about, you pay for the game.
Not some half decent mods.
I stated this a few pages back, but one of the "big whines" has to do with competitive gaming.
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The big deal is that a lack of dedicated servers is having a negative impact on competitive gaming. There are, of course, other reasons, and some good general overviews can be found here and here.
I recommend reading those links. It may give you some insight as to why this is such a big deal for PC users.
As far as modding goes, that's just kind of a given when it comes to PC games. I'll admit that we're a picky bunch, but we pretty much have to be. Unlike console users, PC users can't return a game if they don't like it; we can't trade our games in for the newest and hottest titles out there, so rather than play the same game for years on end, we turn to modding.
Take a look at Diablo, for example. Mods like Median XL and Eastern Sun are incredibly popular because they present new ways to play the game. It's still Diablo, but it's something different than doing thousands of Baal runs at end-game.
And you can always turn them in at gamestop or an ebay site.
GameStop? Maybe it's just my area, but I've never known a GameStop (or even Wal-Mart, and they take anything) to take used PC games for trade/credit. They've let you exchange for the same title, but not a new game.
MAn i love this game i didnt try campaign i played a couple of spec ops missions already and they are hard even on hardened mode, and the online is SICK THE MAPS ARE REALLY GOOD, and i like the custoization of the killstreaks, of and theres a perk called bling thta i just got, it allows 2 attachments to any weapon I alreay got thermal vision for the m4 which is really nice, i just got the final marksman at 300 kills. theres upgrades ot each attachment too like if you get red dot and then get 60 skills while looking through the red dot scop you get the hallogram scope, ot much of a diffrence between those 2, but if you get acog and then get 20 kills looking through acog you get a thermal scop which is NICE.but theres a perk that hides them from thermal called coldblooded they are also then undetectable to radars and uav's. I'm lvl 21 online already and i can tell you it is the sickest game ever, completely blows away Halo 3
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Well... quite frankly, it doesn't look like I'll be playing the runner up. This, to me, looks better than anything shown from MW2 so far.
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Keep going, Infinity Ward. Keep gnawing on the hands that fed and nurtured you in your early years.
Whatever. I'll just stick with Valve and DICE for my FPS gaming needs.
You guys rock! Battlefield bad company 2 is gonna be the shit. I'm looking foward to playing with you two for sure:thumbsup:. Been playing most of the DICE fps (bf2 and bf2142) and BC2 is gonna be a totaly mindreacking experience. Dedicated servers, destructible environments... what more do you want? MW2 can go to hell for all I care.
Dude, EA may have bought DICE but it's a hell of a lot better than the Activision dumbheads who just gave a middle finger to their best fans. If that's not stupid, I don't know what is. DICE had the decency to stay true to the franchise and to their fans, this makes them the #1 choice for me. EA isn't that bad, sure they buy companies and make some stuff into real crap (Red alert 3 for instance) but some stuff really turn out to be jewels like Dead space.... and BC2 :P. I know it's too early to say that it's gonna be a hit but I have a feeling it will.
*Facepalm*
Sometimes the gaming community can be so ungrateful...
You should thank the company's instead of complaining, they are working their asses off to give us, the gaming community, a game to play.
I'm not sure what to say, would you rather have a very good game that's played like the developers want's it, or no games at all?
They may be creating games for the gaming community, but, most importantly, the industry is trying to make money. Gaming is more popular now than it used to be, so it's natural to try and tailor games to capitalize on that.
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And about the whole "taking our money and betraying us" deal, a company needs money too. Without money, no games can be produced. The people who work in the company's probably have families and bills to pay, and they need money for that.
And if a company, regardless of what it does, makes a bad business decision, sales suffer. If that same company continues to make bad decisions, then they go under. It's not the fault of the consumer.
DICE?! You gotta be kidding me. If you support DICE you support EA because the bastards bought em up.
IW has sold their soul and BETRAYED the audience that made them what they are today, so gth with them.
my gosh some people hate EA so much when really they are a pretty great company, or at least can be. They are so big that they have games that suck and games that rock. That is mainly because it isn't the same studio working on it haha. Besides EA has had their hand in some of the greatest games.
Crysis series
Valve games
SSX 3
Battlefield games
mirrors edge (at least it was frsh and new)
dantes inferno
dragon age
command and conquer
and so many more. I realize EA has some crappy games, but for every crappy game theres a great one aswell. And who cares, DICE and battlefield ROCK!
The two are completely different types of games. Here it is in a nutshell, if you want an updated CoD 4 (im somewhat assuming) then get MW2 (i am not supporting them lol, besides BF:BC2 is gonna be better IMO), otherwise get borderlands. I own borderlands, and while it cant possibly hold up to diablo in the sense of replayability and all that, what game can? IMO borderlands is about a 9. It is not perfect, as i could point out many flaws, but none of which are game ruining, rather they are hindrences that make the game fall short of being a game i could play as long as diablo II. I love the game and the shooter aspects of the game are very well done, and combat is fun. I reccomend the game if you like FPS's and Diablo
I don't think people bash EA because it publishes bad games, people bash EA because of its attitude towards the developers and its money-hauling nature... EA is, yes, so big that it can release anything, but good games are never their earning, they just happened to be there to give a good developer money, and have enough brains to not bother some of the bigger developers (Bioware), but I'd rather game developers grow up and stop using middlemen already. CCP did that just fine.
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These are the only advantages that a PC has over a console in online gaming, and when Infinity Ward, a leading developer, takes these away, other developers will follow suit and we will see the end of PC gaming.
It's the decisions you make when you have no time to make them that define who you are.
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this is pissing me off some more, they're really trying to persuade me not to buy their garbage.
you can read the rest here :
http://www.tek-9.org/news/mw2_developer_chat_reveals_more_bad_news-2115.html
A comment said
"There like the most retarded fat stupid shit americans ive eever seen .. fuck off tbh"
And I'm inclined to agree. There are no words for this.
This is seriously hilarious in a bad way... I'm amazed...
I'm just gonna wait it out and see what happens.
Whatever. I'll just stick with Valve and DICE for my FPS gaming needs.
I stated this a few pages back, but one of the "big whines" has to do with competitive gaming.
I recommend reading those links. It may give you some insight as to why this is such a big deal for PC users.
As far as modding goes, that's just kind of a given when it comes to PC games. I'll admit that we're a picky bunch, but we pretty much have to be. Unlike console users, PC users can't return a game if they don't like it; we can't trade our games in for the newest and hottest titles out there, so rather than play the same game for years on end, we turn to modding.
Take a look at Diablo, for example. Mods like Median XL and Eastern Sun are incredibly popular because they present new ways to play the game. It's still Diablo, but it's something different than doing thousands of Baal runs at end-game.
GameStop? Maybe it's just my area, but I've never known a GameStop (or even Wal-Mart, and they take anything) to take used PC games for trade/credit. They've let you exchange for the same title, but not a new game.
lol...
It's the decisions you make when you have no time to make them that define who you are.
You guys rock! Battlefield bad company 2 is gonna be the shit. I'm looking foward to playing with you two for sure:thumbsup:. Been playing most of the DICE fps (bf2 and bf2142) and BC2 is gonna be a totaly mindreacking experience. Dedicated servers, destructible environments... what more do you want? MW2 can go to hell for all I care.
They may be creating games for the gaming community, but, most importantly, the industry is trying to make money. Gaming is more popular now than it used to be, so it's natural to try and tailor games to capitalize on that.
And if a company, regardless of what it does, makes a bad business decision, sales suffer. If that same company continues to make bad decisions, then they go under. It's not the fault of the consumer.
my gosh some people hate EA so much when really they are a pretty great company, or at least can be. They are so big that they have games that suck and games that rock. That is mainly because it isn't the same studio working on it haha. Besides EA has had their hand in some of the greatest games.
Crysis series
Valve games
SSX 3
Battlefield games
mirrors edge (at least it was frsh and new)
dantes inferno
dragon age
command and conquer
and so many more. I realize EA has some crappy games, but for every crappy game theres a great one aswell. And who cares, DICE and battlefield ROCK!
The two are completely different types of games. Here it is in a nutshell, if you want an updated CoD 4 (im somewhat assuming) then get MW2 (i am not supporting them lol, besides BF:BC2 is gonna be better IMO), otherwise get borderlands. I own borderlands, and while it cant possibly hold up to diablo in the sense of replayability and all that, what game can? IMO borderlands is about a 9. It is not perfect, as i could point out many flaws, but none of which are game ruining, rather they are hindrences that make the game fall short of being a game i could play as long as diablo II. I love the game and the shooter aspects of the game are very well done, and combat is fun. I reccomend the game if you like FPS's and Diablo
Not true. Clan matches can be held in private match and IW has already explained that there will be minimal lag.
Mods are pointless and dumb anyway.
Ya everyone else has to do it so get over it.
Oh well, that way you kiddie can have your stupid 18v18 on shipment
Once again everyone else has to play $59.99