I can't say I see what all the fuss is about. She looks rather normal to me, doesn't really stand out as being especially attractive or unattractive. I think it's just because of her job that people are saying she's so great(or could just be different preferences I suppose).
Now say that to me and I will point at your avatar and silently whisper fail...
But you realize I say this because comments like that are part of the problem. Don't judge a woman unless you want her to judge you too. I personally have zero tolerance for serious sexism (I may joke around with my girlfriend but she knows I'm kidding.) Every bit of advertising everywhere SCREAMS at women to be skinnier, be prettier, have better hair, wear more makeup, wear less clothes, and when people start saying "she could lose a few pounds" I find that disturbing and controlling. It's her body, it has nothing to do with you, she can choose how much she weighs for herself.
People (read: men) need to stop being such control freaks, and learn to respect women for more than their beauty.
emilemil I say "you" in this post a lot, I don't actually mean you, I mean those who judge women before themselves.
If you honestly have to judge a woman look at your own flaws first and ask yourself how it must feel when so many people mention them to you.
Obviously it doesn't have anything to do with me? What makes a girl attractive to me is if she isn't fat, I believe in the US that's how we like our girls..not to be fat, that's just how our culture is (even though we have the worst weight issues). I never made fun of her for being over-weight, even though she isn't. Just because I say.."hey, if this girl lost a few pounds then she'd be hot" the only thing that means is that these are qualities I find in a woman to be attractive or unnatractive. It doesn't mean I am making fun of them, nor is it a respect issue.
I don't know of one person who doesn't look at someone and immediately pick out all their flaws, wether it be they have crooked teeth, fat, one leg..who cares? That's how it is and theirs nothing wrong with that, everyone is prejudice and it's not a bad thing but it can be a bad thing when people are harassed/persecuted because of it because a lot of the times it isn't there fault.
And what determines what a "flaw" is? That's a personal definition.
You act as if women don't judge people to? You're looking a little too far into my comment, friend.
Obviously it doesn't have anything to do with me? What makes a girl attractive to me is if she isn't fat, I believe in the US that's how we like our girls..not to be fat, that's just how our culture is (even though we have the worst weight issues). I never made fun of her for being over-weight, even though she isn't. Just because I say.."hey, if this girl lost a few pounds then she'd be hot" the only thing that means is that these are qualities I find in a woman to be attractive or unnatractive. It doesn't mean I am making fun of them, nor is it a respect issue.
Okay, wow, you totally didn't understand. I wasn't attacking you, I was attacking the "Well she'd be hot if [insert pointless (apparent) flaw here]" Everybody has there own ideas of what's good looking and what isn't obviously. You say you're from the US and like your girls skinny, eh? I'm from Canada, and I like my girls skinny too. I'm dating a skinny, smokin' hot ginger, we've been together nearly three years - if she gained a few pounds do you think I'd turn around and say "Hey babe go for a run you're too fat"? No.
I realize you didn't make fun of her, that's what you don't understand. What I hate is the whole mindset that the media imposes - you're too fat, here's some diet pills. You're too ugly, here's some makeup and plastic surgery. You're too plain, here's some expensive revealing clothes. It doesn't stop there, because other people (generally men since that's the average person who's interested in women? ;p) pick it up and hold these lofty expectations about what a beautiful woman should look like. Even a comment as innocent as yours is enough when heard from enough people to cause someone to start throwing up after each meal for fear that they're ugly.
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I don't know of one person who doesn't look at someone and immediately pick out all their flaws, wether it be they have crooked teeth, fat, one leg..who cares? That's how it is and theirs nothing wrong with that, everyone is prejudice and it's not a bad thing but it can be a bad thing when people are harassed/persecuted because of it because a lot of the times it isn't there fault.
You don't know anybody who doesn't judge others based on appearance? Wow I'm glad I don't know your friends. I know a few people, one of them is like 200+ pounds of fat, and he's the most judgmental person I've ever met. Won't shut up about how this girl is too fat, or too ugly, or this and that. Know what? He's 25 now, never dated a girl, still a virgin. He'll date nobody less than Megan Fox because everybody else is imperfect to him. Guess he's going to die alone.
Meeting someone and immediately picking out their flaws isn't healthy, you do realize this right?
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And what determines what a "flaw" is? That's a personal definition.
Actually no, I meant the medias definition of a flaw.
You act as if women don't judge people to? You're looking a little too far into my comment, friend.[/QUOTE]
Women judge, but their judging doesn't cause anorexia, bulimia, drastic need for breast implants and cosmetic surgery. No, I'm not looking to far into your comment, if people would open their eyes they'd understand.
I'm not saying this to be a dick, it's just my opinion.
Edit: Grammar, and to add that I had a friend once, who was a model. All through highschool she'd have to leave for weeks at a time to go to a.. healing camp of some sort? Because she was anorexic. She apparently got better, because she stopped going. But two years after we graduated she died, pretty much because she was throwing up after each meal to stay skinny. That is a fucking painful way to go, and the reason she was doing it? To stay skinny (beautiful), and so her boss (manager?) doesn't fire her for being too fat (ugly). This girl was so skinny I could wrap my hands around her waste and have my thumbs touch in the front and fingers touch in the back.
Now that I'm done bringing up painful memories to get my point across I'm going to go play Bioshock 2 and lose myself in caving peoples faces in with my big daddy drill.
Also back on topic, that one with the glasses and curly hair is a real looker. Love them sandals.
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Anyway you have absolutely no idea at all what hot is.
Let me help you.(And don't you ever make the same mistake again)
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ya very true, shes only hot cuz shes a gamer.
no not the one with glasses. hope that was a joke.
Especially after what this... <removed> said.
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If you say no to that...you are basically gay.
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And also...pretty pointless to comment on the poor woman's appearance.
She didn't make a thread about it. She's blameless.
Edit- unless Deadrabbits is....
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I think you could lose a few pounds, tubby. Get off the computer and run some laps.
But you realize I say this because comments like that are part of the problem. Don't judge a woman unless you want her to judge you too. I personally have zero tolerance for serious sexism (I may joke around with my girlfriend but she knows I'm kidding.) Every bit of advertising everywhere SCREAMS at women to be skinnier, be prettier, have better hair, wear more makeup, wear less clothes, and when people start saying "she could lose a few pounds" I find that disturbing and controlling. It's her body, it has nothing to do with you, she can choose how much she weighs for herself.
People (read: men) need to stop being such control freaks, and learn to respect women for more than their beauty.
emilemil I say "you" in this post a lot, I don't actually mean you, I mean those who judge women before themselves.
If you honestly have to judge a woman look at your own flaws first and ask yourself how it must feel when so many people mention them to you.
I don't know of one person who doesn't look at someone and immediately pick out all their flaws, wether it be they have crooked teeth, fat, one leg..who cares? That's how it is and theirs nothing wrong with that, everyone is prejudice and it's not a bad thing but it can be a bad thing when people are harassed/persecuted because of it because a lot of the times it isn't there fault.
And what determines what a "flaw" is? That's a personal definition.
You act as if women don't judge people to? You're looking a little too far into my comment, friend.
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Okay, wow, you totally didn't understand. I wasn't attacking you, I was attacking the "Well she'd be hot if [insert pointless (apparent) flaw here]" Everybody has there own ideas of what's good looking and what isn't obviously. You say you're from the US and like your girls skinny, eh? I'm from Canada, and I like my girls skinny too. I'm dating a skinny, smokin' hot ginger, we've been together nearly three years - if she gained a few pounds do you think I'd turn around and say "Hey babe go for a run you're too fat"? No.
I realize you didn't make fun of her, that's what you don't understand. What I hate is the whole mindset that the media imposes - you're too fat, here's some diet pills. You're too ugly, here's some makeup and plastic surgery. You're too plain, here's some expensive revealing clothes. It doesn't stop there, because other people (generally men since that's the average person who's interested in women? ;p) pick it up and hold these lofty expectations about what a beautiful woman should look like. Even a comment as innocent as yours is enough when heard from enough people to cause someone to start throwing up after each meal for fear that they're ugly.
You don't know anybody who doesn't judge others based on appearance? Wow I'm glad I don't know your friends. I know a few people, one of them is like 200+ pounds of fat, and he's the most judgmental person I've ever met. Won't shut up about how this girl is too fat, or too ugly, or this and that. Know what? He's 25 now, never dated a girl, still a virgin. He'll date nobody less than Megan Fox because everybody else is imperfect to him. Guess he's going to die alone.
Meeting someone and immediately picking out their flaws isn't healthy, you do realize this right?
Actually no, I meant the medias definition of a flaw.
You act as if women don't judge people to? You're looking a little too far into my comment, friend.[/QUOTE]
Women judge, but their judging doesn't cause anorexia, bulimia, drastic need for breast implants and cosmetic surgery. No, I'm not looking to far into your comment, if people would open their eyes they'd understand.
I'm not saying this to be a dick, it's just my opinion.
Edit: Grammar, and to add that I had a friend once, who was a model. All through highschool she'd have to leave for weeks at a time to go to a.. healing camp of some sort? Because she was anorexic. She apparently got better, because she stopped going. But two years after we graduated she died, pretty much because she was throwing up after each meal to stay skinny. That is a fucking painful way to go, and the reason she was doing it? To stay skinny (beautiful), and so her boss (manager?) doesn't fire her for being too fat (ugly). This girl was so skinny I could wrap my hands around her waste and have my thumbs touch in the front and fingers touch in the back.
Now that I'm done bringing up painful memories to get my point across I'm going to go play Bioshock 2 and lose myself in caving peoples faces in with my big daddy drill.
Also back on topic, that one with the glasses and curly hair is a real looker. Love them sandals.