Archetype ~ Fear Factory (Yes, I know it's also considered Industrial by some people, but bite me)
It's industrial metal, so that still fits under the broad genre of heavy metal.
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BG are Power Metal. Practically the only good thing to come out of that genre.
Power metal is a sub-genre of heavy metal, along with black metal, death metal, doom metal, folk metal, nu metal (shudder), whatevermetal. So it's fine to list power metal songs in this thread... unless you want to define heavy metal as a particular sub-genre, but it's usually used as a broad term, and I think the OP meant it broadly because he listed nu metal songs.
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Geez, no offense, but don't you guys have some favorites or do you listen them all equally often?
I also have lots and lots of other favorite metal hardcore tracks. But atleast I can write 5 down that matters the most to me =).
Haha I see what you're saying but, to me, those genres are so different that I can't merge them together and pick favourites. It's hard to explain, but if I'm in a death metal mood, I won't listen to a black metal song, even if it's my absolute favourite. How about a Diablo-related analogy to make it clear... hmm nope can't think of one.
Geez, no offense, but don't you guys have some favorites or do you listen them all equally often?
I also have lots and lots of other favorite metal hardcore tracks. But atleast I can write 5 down that matters the most to me =).
Haha I see what you're saying but, to me, those genres are so different that I can't merge them together and pick favourites. It's hard to explain, but if I'm in a death metal mood, I won't listen to a black metal song, even if it's my absolute favourite. How about a Diablo-related analogy to make it clear... hmm nope can't think of one.
I guess this is cheating but I'll split them up into metal sub-genres. Otherwise it's impossible because they're just so different. It's inevitable that I'll miss some but anyway...
Top 5 black
Antaeus - Gates to the Outside
Drudkh - Skies at our Feet
Negură Bunget - Conoaș Terea Tăcută
Bloodoline - Voyage till Death
Drudkh - Декаданс (Decadence)
I've got that feeling that i missed so many...
I'm a relative newcomer to brutal/tech death but I love it and here are my favs so far:
Top 5 death
Wormed - Ylem
Gorgasm - Lacerated Masturbation
Ulcerate - Tyranny
Liturgy - Shrine of Moria
Nile - The Burning Pits of the Duat
Top 5 doom
Shape of Despair - Down into the Stream
Nadja - Bliss Torn from Emptiness Part 2
Nadja - I Have Tasted the Fire Inside Your Mouth
Shape of Despair - Woundheir
Forest of Shadows - Wish
Top 5 prog
Opeth - The Drapery Falls
Ne Obliviscaris - Forget Not
Opeth - Serenity Painted Death
Opeth - Under the Weeping Moon
Opeth - Dirge for November
Drudkh aren't really Black Metal. Just saying.
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It's industrial metal, so that still fits under the broad genre of heavy metal.
Power metal is a sub-genre of heavy metal, along with black metal, death metal, doom metal, folk metal, nu metal (shudder), whatevermetal. So it's fine to list power metal songs in this thread... unless you want to define heavy metal as a particular sub-genre, but it's usually used as a broad term, and I think the OP meant it broadly because he listed nu metal songs.
Industrial is seriously different than anything else in the Metal genre to be called Metal. It's not Metal..it's simply Industrial.
Lol@the fucking Metal 101 lesson you just spewed. I know all that. Iron Maiden, Motorhead..that stuff is Heavy Metal. Blind Guardian aren't Heavy Metal. It's not a collective term. They're Power Metal.
Industrial is seriously different than anything else in the Metal genre to be called Metal. It's not Metal..it's simply Industrial.
Lol@the fucking Metal 101 lesson you just spewed. I know all that. Iron Maiden, Motorhead..that stuff is Heavy Metal. Blind Guardian aren't Heavy Metal. It's not a collective term. They're Power Metal.
Dude settle down. I wasn't writing just for you, in fact I was aiming it at Zealamatix. There are other people in this discussion who don't know as much as you, as you're clearly very well informed.
On that note, yes, Drudkh are actually black metal. Thanks for your advice, but they definitely are, I know each of their songs back-to-front, I have all their CDs, lol, but thanks anyway. If you want to give me a reason as to why they're not, other than "omg tehy dont sound kvlt liek Darktrhone", I'll be happy to have a real discussion about it.
You clearly didn't read what I said about power metal. There's a difference between heavy metal as a broad term (this is what the OP used as I've clearly pointed out) and as an explicit term that defines a style like Motorhead. And when it's used as a broad term, it encompasses sub-genres such as power, death, etc etc.
And lastly, what I said was: Fear Factory are "industrial metal". I did not say industrial, because industrial alone is clearly not metal. But industrial metal is a form of metal that is influenced by industrial music. Thanks.
Let me rephrase. Drudkh can't be labeled as a Black Metal band exclusively. They have many other influences on their music. Bands like Mayhem on the other hand, don't, and can be called Black Metal..because they exclusively are a Black Metal band. Drudkh has many Folk influences. Just as Opeth can't be purely called Prog. Do you know where I'm getting at?
I guess I misunderstood, then.
Stop saying that stuff, seriously. Industrial..then Industrial Metal and all that shit. It's like people saying Nu Metal is Metal. It's not. It's just not, it's just some other pathetic excuse for music which their fans like to call metal so they can say they're Metalheads when they aren't in any way shape or form. I don't hate Industrial. I actually like several Industrial bands. I'm just against it being called Metal. Having an electric guitar in a band doesn't make it a Metal band.
Let me rephrase. Drudkh can't be labeled as a Black Metal band exclusively. They have many other influences on their music. Bands like Mayhem on the other hand, don't, and can be called Black Metal..because they exclusively are a Black Metal band. Drudkh has many Folk influences. Just as Opeth can't be purely called Prog. Do you know where I'm getting at?
I guess I misunderstood, then.
Stop saying that stuff, seriously. Industrial..then Industrial Metal and all that shit. It's like people saying Nu Metal is Metal. It's not. It's just not, it's just some other pathetic excuse for music which their fans like to call metal so they can say they're Metalheads when they aren't in any way shape or form. I don't hate Industrial. I actually like several Industrial bands. I'm just against it being called Metal. Having an electric guitar in a band doesn't make it a Metal band.
Ok, I don't think this is going anywhere because we obviously have differing opinions on a lot of things.
I'm not a Fear Factory fan but I've heard them before and I would say they play a form of metal. There's obviously no factual truth in the matter, just opinion, so whatever. I guess I'm on the lenient side, I don't deny that something is metal just because it's shit and I don't like it. It's hard to draw the line between what's metal and what's not metal.
Ok, for the sake of argument, let's agree that Fear Factory are not metal. BUT there are clearly some industrial-influenced bands that everyone would agree do play metal. Otherwise it would be like saying that any music with folk in it cannot be metal, when that's definitely not true. I can think of an example, Antaeus. They play black metal but have ambient sections with things like chains clinking repetitively, I would say it has an industrial influence. Or the ambient-industrial sections in Ulver's Nattens Madrigal, same thing.
I see where you're getting at with Drudkh. I don't agree though. Once again, this is my opinion, and you don't have to agree. I think you could call them black metal exclusively because their defining genre is black metal. So I guess what you're saying is true, but I think I'm referring to sub-genres (i.e. black metal) and you're referring to sub-sub-genres (i.e. folk black metal) which is still black metal when you define it less distinctly.
Let's look at a different band, say Moonsorrow. Their folk elements are significant enough for their sub-genre itself to be folk black metal, and I would agree that you can't call them black metal exclusively by defining them less distinctly. Does that make sense?
Anyway, thanks for giving me a decent reason rather than just bashing one of my favourite bands, haha.
I don't categorize a band as Metal or non-Metal based on my opinion of them. I don't like Sunn O))), that doesn't mean they aren't Metal.
Influence is something, what I was talking about is another. Industrial in itself is a genre. It's like saying there's a genre called Pop-Metal because some song has a very catchy chorus. That wasn't the best example, but you should get where I'm going at already.
I get what you're saying. Our opinions just differ. Greatly, at that.
Mmm, yeah, I didn't mean liking or not liking a band makes them metal... but anyway, I think we're both sick of this discussion. The differences can be so subtle that's it's hard to describe what one means in a forum, I think we keep misinterpreting each other...
As Zealamatix put it, peace.
Laid to Rest - Lamb of God
Call of Ktulu - Metallica
Sweating Bullets - Megadeth
Crazy Train - Ozzy (Randy Rhodes was a badass, I don't care what you think)
Shedding Skin - Pantera
But really there are too many metal songs that I like to take them all into account. So I've just given you the ones that make my spine tingle the most.
Hmmmmmm this is difficult, keep in mind that tomorrow my list would be different if you asked me probably but here it is now.
1. Pantera - It Makes Them Dissappear
2. Lamb of God - Remorse is for the Dead
3. Slayer - Disciple
4. Children of Bodom - Are You Dead Yet
5. Pantera - Floods
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It's industrial metal, so that still fits under the broad genre of heavy metal.
Power metal is a sub-genre of heavy metal, along with black metal, death metal, doom metal, folk metal, nu metal (shudder), whatevermetal. So it's fine to list power metal songs in this thread... unless you want to define heavy metal as a particular sub-genre, but it's usually used as a broad term, and I think the OP meant it broadly because he listed nu metal songs.
Haha I see what you're saying but, to me, those genres are so different that I can't merge them together and pick favourites. It's hard to explain, but if I'm in a death metal mood, I won't listen to a black metal song, even if it's my absolute favourite. How about a Diablo-related analogy to make it clear... hmm nope can't think of one.
Haha I see what you're saying but, to me, those genres are so different that I can't merge them together and pick favourites. It's hard to explain, but if I'm in a death metal mood, I won't listen to a black metal song, even if it's my absolute favourite. How about a Diablo-related analogy to make it clear... hmm nope can't think of one.
Drudkh aren't really Black Metal. Just saying.
Industrial is seriously different than anything else in the Metal genre to be called Metal. It's not Metal..it's simply Industrial.
Lol@the fucking Metal 101 lesson you just spewed. I know all that. Iron Maiden, Motorhead..that stuff is Heavy Metal. Blind Guardian aren't Heavy Metal. It's not a collective term. They're Power Metal.
Rise and rise again, until lambs become lions
Dude settle down. I wasn't writing just for you, in fact I was aiming it at Zealamatix. There are other people in this discussion who don't know as much as you, as you're clearly very well informed.
On that note, yes, Drudkh are actually black metal. Thanks for your advice, but they definitely are, I know each of their songs back-to-front, I have all their CDs, lol, but thanks anyway. If you want to give me a reason as to why they're not, other than "omg tehy dont sound kvlt liek Darktrhone", I'll be happy to have a real discussion about it.
You clearly didn't read what I said about power metal. There's a difference between heavy metal as a broad term (this is what the OP used as I've clearly pointed out) and as an explicit term that defines a style like Motorhead. And when it's used as a broad term, it encompasses sub-genres such as power, death, etc etc.
And lastly, what I said was: Fear Factory are "industrial metal". I did not say industrial, because industrial alone is clearly not metal. But industrial metal is a form of metal that is influenced by industrial music. Thanks.
I guess I misunderstood, then.
Stop saying that stuff, seriously. Industrial..then Industrial Metal and all that shit. It's like people saying Nu Metal is Metal. It's not. It's just not, it's just some other pathetic excuse for music which their fans like to call metal so they can say they're Metalheads when they aren't in any way shape or form. I don't hate Industrial. I actually like several Industrial bands. I'm just against it being called Metal. Having an electric guitar in a band doesn't make it a Metal band.
Rise and rise again, until lambs become lions
Ok, I don't think this is going anywhere because we obviously have differing opinions on a lot of things.
I'm not a Fear Factory fan but I've heard them before and I would say they play a form of metal. There's obviously no factual truth in the matter, just opinion, so whatever. I guess I'm on the lenient side, I don't deny that something is metal just because it's shit and I don't like it. It's hard to draw the line between what's metal and what's not metal.
Ok, for the sake of argument, let's agree that Fear Factory are not metal. BUT there are clearly some industrial-influenced bands that everyone would agree do play metal. Otherwise it would be like saying that any music with folk in it cannot be metal, when that's definitely not true. I can think of an example, Antaeus. They play black metal but have ambient sections with things like chains clinking repetitively, I would say it has an industrial influence. Or the ambient-industrial sections in Ulver's Nattens Madrigal, same thing.
I see where you're getting at with Drudkh. I don't agree though. Once again, this is my opinion, and you don't have to agree. I think you could call them black metal exclusively because their defining genre is black metal. So I guess what you're saying is true, but I think I'm referring to sub-genres (i.e. black metal) and you're referring to sub-sub-genres (i.e. folk black metal) which is still black metal when you define it less distinctly.
Let's look at a different band, say Moonsorrow. Their folk elements are significant enough for their sub-genre itself to be folk black metal, and I would agree that you can't call them black metal exclusively by defining them less distinctly. Does that make sense?
Anyway, thanks for giving me a decent reason rather than just bashing one of my favourite bands, haha.
Anyways, anyone ever heared of pirate metal, and are they even good?
Influence is something, what I was talking about is another. Industrial in itself is a genre. It's like saying there's a genre called Pop-Metal because some song has a very catchy chorus. That wasn't the best example, but you should get where I'm going at already.
I get what you're saying. Our opinions just differ. Greatly, at that.
Rise and rise again, until lambs become lions
As Zealamatix put it, peace.
Anyways decided to do another top 5..and its all gonna be from a folk metal band called Eluveitie! \m/
1:Eluveitie-Inis Mona
2:Eluveitie-Primordial Breath
3:Eluveitie-Tergernako
4:Eluveitie-Brictom
5:Eluveitie-The Arcane Dominion
Ye..im a hardcore eluveitie fan ;D
DevilDriver - Clouds Over California
Outworld - Raise Hell
Slayer - New Faith
Slayer - Crionics
Megadeth - I'll Get Even
Call of Ktulu - Metallica
Sweating Bullets - Megadeth
Crazy Train - Ozzy (Randy Rhodes was a badass, I don't care what you think)
Shedding Skin - Pantera
But really there are too many metal songs that I like to take them all into account. So I've just given you the ones that make my spine tingle the most.
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
1. Pantera - It Makes Them Dissappear
2. Lamb of God - Remorse is for the Dead
3. Slayer - Disciple
4. Children of Bodom - Are You Dead Yet
5. Pantera - Floods
Wow, I just checked out this band.... and I'm already in love. Thanks!
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Those who stand for nothing will fall for anything.
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anyway here it goes
1. One - Metallica
2. Master of Puppets - Metallica
3. Trapped Under Ice - Metallica
4. Awake - Godsmack
5. Blood Brothers - Iron Maiden
REAL METAL!
I like a few songs by Metallica, and i cant remember who else right now xD
2) Persuit of the Vikings - Amon Amarth (viking metal)
3) Baby Dick Fuck - Gwar (trash metal)
4) Met - Equilibrium (viking metal)
5) Jotunheimsf?rden - Svartsot (viking metal)