i don't know whether it is because of the person that i am but i just can't seem to enjoy or even play an evil character in a videogame, ever.
i am playing Fallout 3 now and it made me realise that i've never really played an "evil" character properly.
in all other RPGs Fallout series, Baldur's Gate etc.
i actually used cheats to get the evil endings as i just can't seem to make my character do evil acts.
i just get so guilty doing evil stuff,even though i know that it is just a game and i am not hurting anyone
i've een tryign to play as an evil character but i just can't make myself capture and sell kids or other people as slaves or to kill innocents or let them die without helping them.
or even choose jackass/evil options in dialogues, my consience just won't allow me to live it down
even in GTA i can't rob people or knock people down with my car without feeling guilty.
I know what you mean. My thing was playing Diablo. Its already got the Devils name in it in spanish so thats a big impact to me as it is. But I don't think anyone should feel guilty, just as long as you know who you are. And perhaps inside of you, you realize that the actions taken in-game wouldn't make sense realistically.
I never made a "good" character in Fable 1 and 2.. always had to be the one to kill everyone or do all the wrong things and had my characters all evil looking.
I just love villains, though. Not because I agree with what they do or how they do it, but because a story is only as great as its villain. I love sophisticated villains that say all the right words, have all the right quirks. I think that's why I loved Voldemort. He was just brilliant, the embodiment of power for power's sake, and everything about him seemed just real, and he had style. Talking about the books, of course.
So how does this apply? Well, to be honest, I love being in the villain's mind. It's an honest-to-goodness cold and creepy guilty pleasure. I enjoy all the other assets of a good story as well, but villains... If they're good ones, they will take over the story for me.
In games, well, I have a similar mentality. Like in Oblivion, I always just kind of did an in-my-head role-play, dressing my wizard up in the most sleek and empowering robes and jewelry I can afford (or steal ;)), and going through homes in the dark of night, using my favorite spell combination, over-powered life steal with burden to keep people from moving on touch.
Completely agreed, games always seem to be more centered around the good characters. They have more options, better storylines, and overall more gameplay possibilities.
Only exception I've seen to this is the game Gothic 3. You could enslave people, drive townsfolk from their homes and claim a town for another power, murder all of the leaders in the game in the name of your god (Beliar in the evil case). It was a fucking masterpiece, amazing storylines for good, bad, even neutral characters. Don't mean to turn this shit into an advertisement, but play that game.
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I enjoy being the villians in games, gives a different feel from most games. One that comes to mind was Warhammer: Age of Reckoning. Good times, too bad the game wasn't that great endgame (despite lots of potential).
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Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals... except the weasel.
- Homer Simpson
i don't know whether it is because of the person that i am but i just can't seem to enjoy or even play an evil character in a videogame, ever.
i am playing Fallout 3 now and it made me realise that i've never really played an "evil" character properly.
in all other RPGs Fallout series, Baldur's Gate etc.
i actually used cheats to get the evil endings as i just can't seem to make my character do evil acts.
i just get so guilty doing evil stuff,even though i know that it is just a game and i am not hurting anyone
i've een tryign to play as an evil character but i just can't make myself capture and sell kids or other people as slaves or to kill innocents or let them die without helping them.
or even choose jackass/evil options in dialogues, my consience just won't allow me to live it down
even in GTA i can't rob people or knock people down with my car without feeling guilty.
does anyone suffer from this "problem" too?
You could never enjoy God of War. Or GTA for that matter. How the hell do you now like hitting people with your speeding car and watching there helpless body soar until they impact on something else and die. Then collect the funds and move on. It's priceless. Take it like this, you're killing pixels not people.
The problem with playing good character is.....sometime its really hard not to 'butcher' that one character that talk shit to you! I have to restrain myself really bad when I play Mass Effect, lol
Of course, when you play evil character, you free to rampage!!! I love to play evil character!
I'm with the good guys. Always. But not only because it feels bad, but because it's always so much "harder". Sure it's easy to kill random people and not worry about saving those innocents, but then after a while the townguard starts to kill you on sight, bounty-hunters can come after you, and all those grateful people never give you the awesome follow-up quests you would have gotten if you'd saved them rather than rob and murder them
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Whenever i start playing a game with Evil and Good options like this (fable 2 for example) I Tend to play the game the first way through As I myself would deal with situations, weather it be EVIL or GOOD.
Then the other 2 times i beat em i go to the extremes of both.
Evil tends to make me laugh more though i must admit lol.
Good makes me feel accomplished.
But honestly, i usually on the first time around end up being more good than evil. Im kinda of tired of that. In some future RPGs i plan to be a little more......evil. Example, im pretty sure when the Kotor MMO comes out Im DEFINITLY gona be a sith. Not to mention the Siths looks just fit my style waaaay more XD
Evil Dudes always get the better looking crap! I mean WoW Warlocks COME ON! I WANT TO LOOK COOL TOO ON MY MAGE!
@Valtonis, my advice to you is to do the exact same thing that me and Zhar are doing! Make two characters, and let one resemble your good side :hammy:, and let other draw you to the dark side!
i do that.
i always play through a game as a good character first than go through it as an evil character but being an evil character just makes me feel guilty.
even though i have zero problems killing evil npcs or killing evil NPCs in the worst way like planting bombs on them, shooting them in the groin or just blowing their face off.
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You could never enjoy God of War. Or GTA for that matter. How the hell do you now like hitting people with your speeding car and watching there helpless body soar until they impact on something else and die. Then collect the funds and move on. It's priceless. Take it like this, you're killing pixels not people.
i have no problem with violence, just who i'm doing it too.
and i don't like God of War because of the bloody platform jumping and not the violence, i actually found the violence to be fun
and i do know that they are just pixels but i like to RP when i play games so basically i feel that i am that character that goes around killing innocents and it doesn't sit well with my conscience.
well, i am trying my darnest top playthrough Fallout 3 as an evil character now but it just seems that the game is really crap when it comes to being and RPG.
the dialogue options suck, you either can't choose "evil" dialogues (which would screw up a quest) or there isn't any for you to choose
When I watched my brother play Fable and saw him killing townspeople to gain evil points because he wanted to be evil, I didn't like it.
I wasn't even the one doing it, but it still was plain wrong in my mind, I just shook my head when I saw it.
I used to play GTA at a friends, and I didn't have any problems back then, but if I played the game now I wouldn't play like I used to. Actually, I wouldn't even play those games anymore, they are too filthy in nature.
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"This is the triumph of man:
Where there is truth, he must find.
Where there is destruction, he must rebuild.
Where there is love, he must protect."
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"God gave us memories, that in life's garden we may have June roses in December."
Anyone remember Fenix the dragoon from Starcraft: Broodwar? I hate that Zerg mission. I killed him quickly with spawn broodling, I felt guiltier afterward. It's been almost a decade since I've killed him and I still feel guilty.
There, I confessed. I think I feel a li'l bit better now.
Guilt? Not really. Mostly I had issues with how games implement evilness. Making a Voldemort or even Sylar-style character is pretty damn hard, especially in NWN games a bad guy is usually just some greedy fellow who kills everybody, and it's never that simple. Generally, I just do my thing and I usually end up in the chaotic good category...
i am playing Fallout 3 now and it made me realise that i've never really played an "evil" character properly.
in all other RPGs Fallout series, Baldur's Gate etc.
i actually used cheats to get the evil endings as i just can't seem to make my character do evil acts.
i just get so guilty doing evil stuff,even though i know that it is just a game and i am not hurting anyone
i've een tryign to play as an evil character but i just can't make myself capture and sell kids or other people as slaves or to kill innocents or let them die without helping them.
or even choose jackass/evil options in dialogues, my consience just won't allow me to live it down
even in GTA i can't rob people or knock people down with my car without feeling guilty.
does anyone suffer from this "problem" too?
So how does this apply? Well, to be honest, I love being in the villain's mind. It's an honest-to-goodness cold and creepy guilty pleasure. I enjoy all the other assets of a good story as well, but villains... If they're good ones, they will take over the story for me.
In games, well, I have a similar mentality. Like in Oblivion, I always just kind of did an in-my-head role-play, dressing my wizard up in the most sleek and empowering robes and jewelry I can afford (or steal ;)), and going through homes in the dark of night, using my favorite spell combination, over-powered life steal with burden to keep people from moving on touch.
Only exception I've seen to this is the game Gothic 3. You could enslave people, drive townsfolk from their homes and claim a town for another power, murder all of the leaders in the game in the name of your god (Beliar in the evil case). It was a fucking masterpiece, amazing storylines for good, bad, even neutral characters. Don't mean to turn this shit into an advertisement, but play that game.
Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals... except the weasel.
- Homer Simpson
You could never enjoy God of War. Or GTA for that matter. How the hell do you now like hitting people with your speeding car and watching there helpless body soar until they impact on something else and die. Then collect the funds and move on. It's priceless. Take it like this, you're killing pixels not people.
Of course, when you play evil character, you free to rampage!!! I love to play evil character!
Then the other 2 times i beat em i go to the extremes of both.
Evil tends to make me laugh more though i must admit lol.
Good makes me feel accomplished.
But honestly, i usually on the first time around end up being more good than evil. Im kinda of tired of that. In some future RPGs i plan to be a little more......evil. Example, im pretty sure when the Kotor MMO comes out Im DEFINITLY gona be a sith. Not to mention the Siths looks just fit my style waaaay more XD
Evil Dudes always get the better looking crap! I mean WoW Warlocks COME ON! I WANT TO LOOK COOL TOO ON MY MAGE!
i do that.
i always play through a game as a good character first than go through it as an evil character but being an evil character just makes me feel guilty.
even though i have zero problems killing evil npcs or killing evil NPCs in the worst way like planting bombs on them, shooting them in the groin or just blowing their face off.
i have no problem with violence, just who i'm doing it too.
and i don't like God of War because of the bloody platform jumping and not the violence, i actually found the violence to be fun
and i do know that they are just pixels but i like to RP when i play games so basically i feel that i am that character that goes around killing innocents and it doesn't sit well with my conscience.
well, i am trying my darnest top playthrough Fallout 3 as an evil character now but it just seems that the game is really crap when it comes to being and RPG.
the dialogue options suck, you either can't choose "evil" dialogues (which would screw up a quest) or there isn't any for you to choose
Rise and rise again, until lambs become lions
I wasn't even the one doing it, but it still was plain wrong in my mind, I just shook my head when I saw it.
I used to play GTA at a friends, and I didn't have any problems back then, but if I played the game now I wouldn't play like I used to. Actually, I wouldn't even play those games anymore, they are too filthy in nature.
Where there is truth, he must find.
Where there is destruction, he must rebuild.
Where there is love, he must protect."
World's Fair Exhibit
"God gave us memories, that in life's garden we may have June roses in December."
John Barrie
There, I confessed. I think I feel a li'l bit better now.
I always end up in that same category when doing my own thing, I'll always replay the game as an absolute bastard though.