you realize its illeagl to have a special tax on somone, if they do this. whos to stop them when they want to tax somone more anytime in the future.. the precedent will be set.
and the plan is flawed, many ways to get around it
Yeah it's a catch 22, on one hand that is right and on the other it's not their money, it's our tax dollars and beggars can't be choosy. But the deed is done and now the politicians are looking for ways to stuff the genie back in the bottle when they should have had the foresight to know better and close that loop hole up front. The politicians thought we wouldn't notice and got caught with their pants down. What they are effectively saying is this...
OK you rat bastard exec's, you helped ruin our economy! You took advantage of the laws we helped repeal forcing you to act responsibly! How dare you! You took advantage of all those government backed loans we allowed, completely removing all risk to you personally and laid all risk on the poor, poor, tax payer with Freddie and Fannie!
Damn you! Damn you all to hell!
How dare you for taking advantage of all the controls once wisely in place that we removed like idiots! How dare you give your executives bonuses and take advantage of the loopholes we created for you! Do you know what we're going to do you? Do you!? I'll tell you what we're going to do! We're going to yell at you in congressional hearings in front of the entire world! We're going to embarrass you publically! We will send you packing with billions, tens, even hundreds of billions of dollars so you know how angry we are! OH and just so you never forget how angry the average tax payers are, we're going to make them pay for your good fortune!
You son of a bitches! Now take that!
They are hoping we will keep being pissed at the exec's and not notice how badly they f'd up.
He did however have enough time to make fun of the Special Olympics on national television. I'm not against Obama or anything, but if any Republican had said what he said they would have been burned at the stake. LoL. What a moron.
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"A wizard is never late Frodo Baggins. Nor is he early.
He arrives precisely when he means to."
"Losers always whine about their best, winners go home and Fvck the prom queen."
We're talking about the President of the United States. I'd expect him to use a little better judgement....Also, just because a lot of people do it, doesn't make it right.
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"A wizard is never late Frodo Baggins. Nor is he early.
He arrives precisely when he means to."
"Losers always whine about their best, winners go home and Fvck the prom queen."
No . I am allowed to have the opinion that it was an inappropriate joke. I didn't say he's a terrible person for it. I just said he's a moron for saying that on TV.
I was also just making the point that just because a lot of people do something that doesn't make it right. That's just a lame response. IMO
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"A wizard is never late Frodo Baggins. Nor is he early.
He arrives precisely when he means to."
"Losers always whine about their best, winners go home and Fvck the prom queen."
We're talking about the President of the United States. I'd expect him to use a little better judgement....Also, just because a lot of people do it, doesn't make it right.
We're talking about another human. He should have better judgment... why?
I didn't say it was "right" (whatever the heck that means). I hate it when people put words in my mouth and then flame me by something I never said. I said you can't expect a president to not do it if tons of other people do. The president is, in fact, a construct of the people. He is elected by them. Why would he be all that different from them?
You seriously think that the president is supposed to be smarter, more moral, and more everything, than everybody else? You seriously think there are, to begin with, people out there who are better than the next person? They don't exist. Hence, you can't expect that from the president. The only thing that matters about a president, truly, is his ability to rule the nation in the right direction, and that has little to do with morals, opinions, or anything else, for that matter.
Your approach does nothing but cultivate liars, narcissists, sweet-talkers to go for office.
I'm saying as the President of the US it was a dumb comment to make because so many people would expect "better" from someone representing the country.
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"A wizard is never late Frodo Baggins. Nor is he early.
He arrives precisely when he means to."
"Losers always whine about their best, winners go home and Fvck the prom queen."
I'm saying as the President of the US it was a dumb comment to make because so many people would expect "better" from someone representing the country.
Yeah but there isn't one person out there who has completely pure and nice thoughts all the time.
At least in my opinion.
I don't even know what he said but I'm glad he felt comfortable saying in both private and public. Honesty is something I admire.
Besides it's not like we have a perfect track record of our former presidents doing embarrassing things in the public eye.
I guess Legilimens is worried that the public isn't going to like Obama or something. I would, honestly, leave that as something for a lawyer to figure out. Making themselves look good is their specialty.
I'm saying I'm judging him as a person or his morality. I'm saying he was dumb for saying that on TV because it would piss a lot of people off......
That's all I was trying to say. Just that it was a bad move on his part.
and Equinox never intended any flame or to put words in your mouth. It's just the comment about other people making fun of special olympics made me think of, "But everybody's doing it." Sorry if that's not what you meant.
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"A wizard is never late Frodo Baggins. Nor is he early.
He arrives precisely when he means to."
"Losers always whine about their best, winners go home and Fvck the prom queen."
That is illegal; but that hasn't stopped the government before.
So it's illegal? Who gives a shit with AIG, fuck them. They fucked us, so they get fucked.
I don't see why people need to make it so complicated.
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Yeah it's a catch 22, on one hand that is right and on the other it's not their money, it's our tax dollars and beggars can't be choosy. But the deed is done and now the politicians are looking for ways to stuff the genie back in the bottle when they should have had the foresight to know better and close that loop hole up front. The politicians thought we wouldn't notice and got caught with their pants down. What they are effectively saying is this...
They are hoping we will keep being pissed at the exec's and not notice how badly they f'd up.
"Losers always whine about their best, winners go home and Fvck the prom queen."
"Losers always whine about their best, winners go home and Fvck the prom queen."
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
I was also just making the point that just because a lot of people do something that doesn't make it right. That's just a lame response. IMO
"Losers always whine about their best, winners go home and Fvck the prom queen."
I didn't say it was "right" (whatever the heck that means). I hate it when people put words in my mouth and then flame me by something I never said. I said you can't expect a president to not do it if tons of other people do. The president is, in fact, a construct of the people. He is elected by them. Why would he be all that different from them?
You seriously think that the president is supposed to be smarter, more moral, and more everything, than everybody else? You seriously think there are, to begin with, people out there who are better than the next person? They don't exist. Hence, you can't expect that from the president. The only thing that matters about a president, truly, is his ability to rule the nation in the right direction, and that has little to do with morals, opinions, or anything else, for that matter.
Your approach does nothing but cultivate liars, narcissists, sweet-talkers to go for office.
Sorry but I don't see the morality in that.
He can say it in private just fine but if he says it in front of people it's wrong?
"Losers always whine about their best, winners go home and Fvck the prom queen."
I prefer a honest person with a few problems on TV than an amazing guy on TV and a total asshole in private.
I'm saying I'm judging him as a person or his morality. I'm saying he was dumb for saying that on TV because it would piss a lot of people off......
"Losers always whine about their best, winners go home and Fvck the prom queen."
Yeah but there isn't one person out there who has completely pure and nice thoughts all the time.
At least in my opinion.
I don't even know what he said but I'm glad he felt comfortable saying in both private and public. Honesty is something I admire.
Besides it's not like we have a perfect track record of our former presidents doing embarrassing things in the public eye.
That's all I was trying to say. Just that it was a bad move on his part.
and Equinox never intended any flame or to put words in your mouth. It's just the comment about other people making fun of special olympics made me think of, "But everybody's doing it." Sorry if that's not what you meant.
"Losers always whine about their best, winners go home and Fvck the prom queen."
Although I understand what Legilimens is trying to say I have to agree with this statement right here.