Yeah but the real crime is by the politicians, without getting partisan (because both sides really are at fault) and the risk of repeating myself.
This is what Politicians have effectively said:
OK you rat bastard exec's, you helped ruin our economy! You took advantage of the laws we helped repeal forcing you to act responsibly! How dare you! You took advantage of all those government backed loans we allowed, completely removing all risk to you personally and laid all risk on the poor, poor, tax payer with Freddie and Fannie!
Damn you! Damn you all to hell!
How dare you for taking advantage of all the controls once wisely in place that we removed! How dare you give your executives bonuses and take advantage of the loopholes we created!! Do you know what we're going to do you? Do you!? I'll tell you what we're going to do! We're going to yell at you in congressional hearings in front of the entire world! We're going to embarrass you publically! We will send you packing with billions, tens, even hundreds of billions of dollars so you know how angry we are! OH and just so you never forget how angry the average tax payers are, we're going to make them pay for your windfall!
I think some new faces would be a relief. Maybe some upcoming politicians. These old guys aren't working anymore!
Maybe.... If the Legislative branch could straighten itself out. Too many of one particular party at one time isn't healthy in my opinion.
And some incentive for the public, like more interaction, rather than staying up on Capitol hill. Not enough things like governor-hosted picnics, balls, charity events, etc. Some face-time if you want to think of it that way.
Voting for the lesser of two evils is why this country will never get better.
Lets make this clear, Obama is bad. Here is why:
Barack Obama is following in the Bush tracks. George Bush tripled the size of the United States government, government will only grow under the Obama administration.
-His proposals and backing for the slavery of united states citizens as well as his lack of attention towards the slavery that already exists in America (Federal Income Tax). Those taken in under the GIVE act will lose First Amendment rights.
-His continuation of the endless wars in the middle east. The trickery of altering the titles of soldiers in combat roles in Iraq so as to keep them overseas. The doubling of combat troop numbers in Afghanistan, and as a symbol to this his first military action as CIC being the bombing of Pakistani civilians.
I can go on and on with these problems with Obama, but I believe what people need to realize is to not be caught up with the flair over individuals. The government has been going downhill for a long time.
Government: A government is a group of individuals within a geographical area who retain the monopolistic moral and legal right to initiate force. The moral right is said to be dictated through a (false) social contract. With this knowledge we unlock a synonym to government: violent monopoly. We all have the right to self-defense, but only the government, or, now violent monopoly, has the right to bring down force upon others.
Just think about that.
The reason that the state is a living hell is because man tries to make it his living heaven.
AIG: you people are idiots... were just going to take all your money
OBAMA: ok.... lemme think of something.... 90% tax on you!
AIG: thats illegal...
OBAMA: ...
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AIG: you people are idiots... were just going to take all your money
OBAMA: ok.... lemme think of something.... 90% tax on you!
AIG: thats illegal...
OBAMA: ...
there is no big picture, AIG fucked us..... the taxpayers... now obama's rash reaction is to put a 90% tax on them... he is making a brash reaction and playing off the people emotions... not making the right decisions.
this is why ppl hated bush, he didnt do everything they bitched about... and obama is, hes trying to make everyone happy and you just cant do that.
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Voting for the lesser of two evils is why this country will never get better.
OK, but what candidate was going to usher in change that stood a chance? Ron Paul? He had a following, he was the most right person on economy and yet he still didn't have a chance in hell of winning. Obama spent a half a billion to win a job that pays only $400,000 a year. Clearly bigger forces are behind making someone president. The hypocrisy of both parties is mind popping, on the left we have Democrats who were all too eager to throw the Republicans under the bus for the war paid for by deficit spending. Remember Pete Stark, "Where are you going to get that money? Are you going to tell us lies like you're telling us today? Is that how you're going to fund the war? You don't have money to fund the war or children." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xa5A5yW21I
Suddenly now that Obama is in office that question of where the money is going to come from is gone. Hypocrites!
But on the right we have the same problem, Bush spent like a liberal on steroids and the Republicans rubber stamped him for 6 years barely raising a concern about it. Now suddenly they are fiscal conservatives again!?!? Hypocrites! Even when it came to the $800 billion stimulus their complaint was with a paltry $180 million in ear marks and $30 billion of the package.
That means they agreed with roughly $770 billion of the insane sugar daddy China can you give me a fix package. Both voted for the bail out, and both voted to usher in deregulation with the “The Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000” passing it with a near-unanimous House vote (377 to 4), both had a hand in the formation of Citigroup by helping to repeal the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 that lead to this very crash! So neither party seems to understand the can of inflationary worms they unleashing on our nation in the coming years. We are already having issues servicing the interest on our national debt, we will default on our obligations, not honor them. Change will come, after both parties have utterly burned their bridges with the people and we finally get some pitchforks to shove up DC's ass. Personally I'm hoping for a D3 expansion package along these lines.
No one here can dispute what you said. As much hope as I had in Ron Paul, I can't help but realize that the only hope we have as a nation is in our own hands.
On the other hand, where is the line in the sand for the American people? Has it come and passed, or will it take the military marching on our streets? If it ever gets to that point, you all have my personal promise I will abandon my post.
I can't help but realize that the only hope we have as a nation is in our own hands.
Right you are, all you can do is try to wake people up and make sure you do your best to not be a victim. Here was an interesting piece of little reported news.
there is no big picture, AIG fucked us..... the taxpayers... now obama's rash reaction is to put a 90% tax on them... he is making a brash reaction and playing off the people emotions... not making the right decisions.
this is why ppl hated bush, he didnt do everything they bitched about... and obama is, hes trying to make everyone happy and you just cant do that.
AIG did go against the country, but you don't understand that they would be such a liability if Obama didn't do something about it. Obama is only doing the best thing, as punishment he is taxing them. He is not playing anyone's emotions, you aren't realizing anything important.
you realize its illeagl to have a special tax on somone, if they do this. whos to stop them when they want to tax somone more anytime in the future.. the precedent will be set.
and the plan is flawed, many ways to get around it
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Obama needs to re-choose his financial aides...
(And he needs to bitchslap AIG...)
This is what Politicians have effectively said:
Washington is fucking things up worse.
What would be the best thing to do to turn this around, Blackwing?
Maybe.... If the Legislative branch could straighten itself out. Too many of one particular party at one time isn't healthy in my opinion.
And some incentive for the public, like more interaction, rather than staying up on Capitol hill. Not enough things like governor-hosted picnics, balls, charity events, etc. Some face-time if you want to think of it that way.
Lets make this clear, Obama is bad. Here is why:
Barack Obama is following in the Bush tracks. George Bush tripled the size of the United States government, government will only grow under the Obama administration.
-His proposals and backing for the slavery of united states citizens as well as his lack of attention towards the slavery that already exists in America (Federal Income Tax). Those taken in under the GIVE act will lose First Amendment rights.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13389002/HR-1388
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhQ_lEiaNT8&feature=related
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173&ei=y5PLSb-DNpKYrAKt-IXIBw&q=freedom+to+facism&hl=en
-His continuation of the endless wars in the middle east. The trickery of altering the titles of soldiers in combat roles in Iraq so as to keep them overseas. The doubling of combat troop numbers in Afghanistan, and as a symbol to this his first military action as CIC being the bombing of Pakistani civilians.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6rZsttDmpo&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TovrzDZlqIM
-Pre-election "truth squads" formed by Barack Obama to silence through legal action those who opposed him. Another violation of the First Amendment.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/09/29/missouri-sheriffs-prosecutors-obama-truth-squad-getting-old-media-silenc
-Crumbling the second amendment, with the proposed assault weapons ban.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6960824&page=1
http://www.operatorchan.org/n/src/n3196_1217999144913.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv3p2lLmjGk
I can go on and on with these problems with Obama, but I believe what people need to realize is to not be caught up with the flair over individuals. The government has been going downhill for a long time.
Government: A government is a group of individuals within a geographical area who retain the monopolistic moral and legal right to initiate force. The moral right is said to be dictated through a (false) social contract. With this knowledge we unlock a synonym to government: violent monopoly. We all have the right to self-defense, but only the government, or, now violent monopoly, has the right to bring down force upon others.
Just think about that.
The reason that the state is a living hell is because man tries to make it his living heaven.
OBAMA: ok.... lemme think of something.... 90% tax on you!
AIG: thats illegal...
OBAMA: ...
its not supposed to be a nice game
autostats are rediclous
lack of pots is not welcome
if it aint broke dont fix it! (diablo2)
It all catches up with you eventually.
this is why ppl hated bush, he didnt do everything they bitched about... and obama is, hes trying to make everyone happy and you just cant do that.
its not supposed to be a nice game
autostats are rediclous
lack of pots is not welcome
if it aint broke dont fix it! (diablo2)
OK, but what candidate was going to usher in change that stood a chance? Ron Paul? He had a following, he was the most right person on economy and yet he still didn't have a chance in hell of winning. Obama spent a half a billion to win a job that pays only $400,000 a year. Clearly bigger forces are behind making someone president. The hypocrisy of both parties is mind popping, on the left we have Democrats who were all too eager to throw the Republicans under the bus for the war paid for by deficit spending. Remember Pete Stark, "Where are you going to get that money? Are you going to tell us lies like you're telling us today? Is that how you're going to fund the war? You don't have money to fund the war or children."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xa5A5yW21I
Suddenly now that Obama is in office that question of where the money is going to come from is gone. Hypocrites!
But on the right we have the same problem, Bush spent like a liberal on steroids and the Republicans rubber stamped him for 6 years barely raising a concern about it. Now suddenly they are fiscal conservatives again!?!? Hypocrites! Even when it came to the $800 billion stimulus their complaint was with a paltry $180 million in ear marks and $30 billion of the package.
That means they agreed with roughly $770 billion of the insane sugar daddy China can you give me a fix package. Both voted for the bail out, and both voted to usher in deregulation with the “The Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000” passing it with a near-unanimous House vote (377 to 4), both had a hand in the formation of Citigroup by helping to repeal the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 that lead to this very crash! So neither party seems to understand the can of inflationary worms they unleashing on our nation in the coming years. We are already having issues servicing the interest on our national debt, we will default on our obligations, not honor them. Change will come, after both parties have utterly burned their bridges with the people and we finally get some pitchforks to shove up DC's ass. Personally I'm hoping for a D3 expansion package along these lines.
CyberPunk RP Nexus
Who has said that?
No one here can dispute what you said. As much hope as I had in Ron Paul, I can't help but realize that the only hope we have as a nation is in our own hands.
On the other hand, where is the line in the sand for the American people? Has it come and passed, or will it take the military marching on our streets? If it ever gets to that point, you all have my personal promise I will abandon my post.
Right you are, all you can do is try to wake people up and make sure you do your best to not be a victim. Here was an interesting piece of little reported news.
What if Treasury Held an Auction and No One Showed Up?
http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/what-if-treasury-held-an-auction-and-no-one-showed-up-32888
That is exactly what happened in the UK, anyone who thinks we are headed for recovery in 2010 is in for a rude surprise.
AIG did go against the country, but you don't understand that they would be such a liability if Obama didn't do something about it. Obama is only doing the best thing, as punishment he is taxing them. He is not playing anyone's emotions, you aren't realizing anything important.
and the plan is flawed, many ways to get around it
its not supposed to be a nice game
autostats are rediclous
lack of pots is not welcome
if it aint broke dont fix it! (diablo2)