Haha, yea, it's like "ooh, there are 5 people dying every second of your life, let's all grieve and feel sorry for half the planet!"
what the fuck....
his sister is a vegetable and his mother is dying.
and you're telling me that posting for support is bad?
all my respect to you died in this thread.
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"You are like a rose in a great rose field. Each rose is so beautiful to me. But if one dies... I can still look at many other roses..." God of Darkness.
He's asking everyone to pray for his family. I'm not religious, but I do know that there is something about praying that does help. And praying is better in numbers
He's not looking for pity. He's looking for support, for understanding.
Then it would go something like this. "I'm in a bad state right now, please say a prayer for me". Getting detailed and using very elaborate phrases like "she looks like a vegatable" is nothing more than an intelligent way to ask for pity. Now people read that and say, "oh gosh, oh no, that's horrible, please feel better". He's effectively asked for pity.
There is more going on here psychologically. There are things that help you assure yourself of where and what you are. Paradigms. What happens when they shift? You lose balance about who and what you are, and everything is thrown into confusion.
Sorry, I yawned.
Stop trying to be a bastard and trying to prove how tough you are by telling someone to sack up.
I know what pain is. I know how to feel pain. I know what sadness is. I don't broadcast my pain on a forum. I don't ask for pity. I definitely don't ask people to make a prayer for me. I'm not tough, I'm just not dramatic.
Telling someone to sack up is easy. Being mean about is is easier. But understanding someone and offering words of encouragement so that they can stand up and be stronger during what they are going through is tough.
Lol, you can't be serious. It's much easier for me to say a prayer to him. That way, you can just type a few words and come out looking like a good guy. So for you to think being mean is easier, you would be incorrect. Being honest is much harder, being fake and giving the guy the pity that he wants, is easy.
If you don't want to do it, GTFO. And if you can't do it, stay the fuck out. Enough with all you douchebags that troll and are tougher, stronger, and smarter than everyone else. How about you grow a heart and a brain.
I wish you knew the definition of a forum troll. You keep using it incorrectly. I'll forgive you, you have much to learn.
You know, you remind me of what LinkX said about negative remarks to America.
In threads like these, we can only feel sorry for the thread starter... we can't say anything about what we think. We can only be nice. What happened to the 1st Amendment?
TY, SpanishBard. I knew you were right from the start.
Equinox, I don't want to be an idiot, or be annoying, or make a life long enemy of you or anyone else in this place, not because it should matter to me, but because it does, and I value my reputation where ever I represent myself.
I am simply saying that he could not control those events. Grief and consolation help people get through these things. If he wants some, fine. Is he being selfish? I don't think so, or at least not intentionally. He wants people he can talk to about it to lift some small bit of the sorrow off his shoulders.
Just because he adds a personal touch like "vegetable" to describe what he believes his sister is experiencing does not make him a bad person, it makes him human. Just because he thought that the people here were well-intentioned and considerate, and thought that maybe he could get some consolation from people here, does not make what he did wrong. He said his family is having troubles, maybe these forums are becoming another family to him- who knows?
Equinox... GTFO
That doesn't really have any substance behind it, but I think what he means to say is don't start a debate in here, it isn't necessary. If you have a problem with why it should or should not be here, take it up with a moderator and they can resolve the problem based on their judgment.
The moment we debase human lives to the value of mere numbers...well... Are you not any better than those who kill? You've made all people on earth at the moment you said that dead to you. You don't care about them. This might be an extreme analogy, but that is what I see.
Getting detailed and using very elaborate phrases like "she looks like a vegatable" is nothing more than an intelligent way to ask for pity.
Maybe that's his way of communicating? Sure, he's not writing to entertain or inform the masses, but if he so chooses to make his message more personal, to open up his life completely, to the people here, then he has every right to do so. If he seeks pity, who are we to say he's undeserving of it? I'd sympathize with anyone here or in real life if they were under similar conditions.
Being honest is much harder...[giving pity] is easy.
I am honestly presenting my sentiment, and at this moment it seems very hard, since everyone seems so apt on impeding my message.
being fake and giving the guy the pity that he wants
I am most certainly not being fake, or I wouldn't have wasted my time typing all of this. I care more for other humans that I don't know but whose problems are still very real more easily than you do. So be it- just because our views differ do we have to be at each others proverbial throats? You could just leave this whole thing be and let those who decide to mourn with him do so.
If you don't want to do it, GTFO. And if you can't do it, stay the fuck out. Enough with all you douchebags that troll and are tougher, stronger, and smarter than everyone else. How about you grow a heart and a brain.
about this discussion about "he's faking it" and "he just wants us to feel bad for him"
well answer this question:
WHAT IF YOU'RE WRONG?
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"You are like a rose in a great rose field. Each rose is so beautiful to me. But if one dies... I can still look at many other roses..." God of Darkness.
Equinox and spanish - yeh, living hell is an exaggeration, and yeh, he may only be doing this for attention or w/e you think, but you can't be that pessimistic all the time. Maybe he really does want your prayers. Spanish, making a thread about this and asking for prayers has nothing to do with being a man. Grow up guys...
And fbi, no one could give a shit if you lost all respect for them.
I don't feel sorry, but I will pray for your sister and your mother and you, and may they get better.
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"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
Equinox, I don't want to be an idiot, or be annoying, or make a life long enemy of you or anyone else in this place, not because it should matter to me, but because it does, and I value my reputation where ever I represent myself.
I am simply saying that he could not control those events. Grief and consolation help people get through these things. If he wants some, fine. Is he being selfish? I don't think so, or at least not intentionally. He wants people he can talk to about it to lift some small bit of the sorrow off his shoulders.
Just because he adds a personal touch like "vegetable" to describe what he believes his sister is experiencing does not make him a bad person, it makes him human. Just because he thought that the people here were well-intentioned and considerate, and thought that maybe he could get some consolation from people here, does not make what he did wrong. He said his family is having troubles, maybe these forums are becoming another family to him- who knows?
That doesn't really have any substance behind it, but I think what he means to say is don't start a debate in here, it isn't necessary. If you have a problem with why it should or should not be here, take it up with a moderator and they can resolve the problem based on their judgment.
The moment we debase human lives to the value of mere numbers...well... Are you not any better than those who kill? You've made all people on earth at the moment you said that dead to you. You don't care about them. This might be an extreme analogy, but that is what I see.
Maybe that's his way of communicating? Sure, he's not writing to entertain or inform the masses, but if he so chooses to make his message more personal, to open up his life completely, to the people here, then he has every right to do so. If he seeks pity, who are we to say he's undeserving of it? I'd sympathize with anyone here or in real life if they were under similar conditions.
I am honestly presenting my sentiment, and at this moment it seems very hard, since everyone seems so apt on impeding my message.
I am most certainly not being fake, or I wouldn't have wasted my time typing all of this. I care more for other humans that I don't know but whose problems are still very real more easily than you do. So be it- just because our views differ do we have to be at each others proverbial throats? You could just leave this whole thing be and let those who decide to mourn with him do so.
That was a bit harsh, don't you think?
I agree...
That was actually something worth reading.
You guys are weird. He wasnt asking for pity, he was telling us why he hasnt been on the forums in a while. And if what hes going through isnt hell then I dont know what is.
"You are like a rose in a great rose field. Each rose is so beautiful to me. But if one dies... I can still look at many other roses..." God of Darkness.
And fbi, no one could give a shit if you lost all respect for them.
well actually you should, because i dont like a lot of people and when i do, it's because you did something to impress me or you have something in you.
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"You are like a rose in a great rose field. Each rose is so beautiful to me. But if one dies... I can still look at many other roses..." God of Darkness.
You guys are weird. He wasnt asking for pity, he was telling us why he hasnt been on the forums in a while. And if what hes going through isnt hell then I dont know what is.
John, I hope everything turns out ok.
for the first time, i agree with you
im glad that someone here has some common sense
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Oh, this threw me off then:
well he should be depressed....
im not surprised...
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And fbi, no one could give a shit if you lost all respect for them.
well actually you should, because i dont like a lot of people and when i do, it's because you did something to impress me or you have something in you.
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"You are like a rose in a great rose field. Each rose is so beautiful to me. But if one dies... I can still look at many other roses..." God of Darkness.
Well, I think "Living Hell" was a bit of an overstatement, but you have my concern and care.
I don't think it's too much to feel pity for a human being. I mean, pick up a news paper. Baby seals in Alaska get more pity than a human these days.
I'm not sure how you could prove that as something credible. It seems sort of a random thing to say.
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I am simply saying that he could not control those events. Grief and consolation help people get through these things. If he wants some, fine. Is he being selfish? I don't think so, or at least not intentionally. He wants people he can talk to about it to lift some small bit of the sorrow off his shoulders.
To all of these silly responses, "WELL MAYBE HIS POST IS LEGIT AND HE REALLY NEEDS A SHOULDER TO CRY ON"..... WELL MAYBE HIS POST ISN'T LEGIT AND HE WANTS ATTENTION? Forgive me, I just think telling everyone such a sad story on a forum, is completely silly. I think I have as much right to try and comprehend his incentive about posting such a sob sob story, as you do.
Just because he adds a personal touch like "vegetable" to describe what he believes his sister is experiencing does not make him a bad person, it makes him human.
This isn't a debate about whether he has human qualities, or if he's a bad person. That's completely irrelevant. It just means he's trying to be persuasive. Why would he have to persuade anyone? Why does he have to try and give us a visual representation of what he's going through. I have no problem if he wants to cry on a shoulder. But I hate people who take advantage of our weakness for the handicapped.
The moment we debase human lives to the value of mere numbers...well... Are you not any better than those who kill? You've made all people on earth at the moment you said that dead to you. You don't care about them. This might be an extreme analogy, but that is what I see.
Totally extreme analogy. We're human... As Equinox said, why aren't you sending prayers to the poor seals? Because we don't actually care about the seals until we see a 30 minute documentary on them. So for me to disregard his story as.. just another sad story. That makes me human just like any of you. I'm brave enough to say, I don't care when it's right in front me.
Maybe that's his way of communicating? Sure, he's not writing to entertain or inform the masses, but if he so chooses to make his message more personal, to open up his life completely, to the people here, then he has every right to do so. If he seeks pity, who are we to say he's undeserving of it? I'd sympathize with anyone here or in real life if they were under similar conditions.
You're a nice guy. Maybe you'll help somebody one day.
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Equinox and spanish - yeh, living hell is an exaggeration, and yeh, he may only be doing this for attention or w/e you think, but you can't be that pessimistic all the time. Maybe he really does want your prayers. Spanish, making a thread about this and asking for prayers has nothing to do with being a man. Grow up guys...
The man part was an inside joke. I don't actually think that was an accurate thing to say.
I don't feel sorry, but I will pray for your sister and your mother and you, and may they get better.
You won't pray for him. You'll post in the "I'm Living in Hell" thread and pretend you'll pray for him. Hippocrite.
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John: I am sorry for what your going through. If there is anything I can do to help, just PM me and it's yours.
What could John possibly request in a PM that would actually benefit him? Money to pay for hospital bills? No you wouldn't give him anything. A shoulder to cry on? Does your digital entity have a shoulder to cry on? No. You say this, because you cowardly try and sound like a nice guy. You know full and well he has no need for you. Even if he did have a need for you. You have nothing to give. So keep playing it safe. Keep pretending to be a great guy. Kudos to you, maybe you'll trick someone into thinking you are.
Everyone else: You should be ashamed of yourselves! You have plenty of threads to fight in, so go somewhere else to fucking fight!
I have as much right to comprehend his situation as any of you. I analyze it to be a scam for everyones attention. Just like Carlos made the "I'm QUITTING THE FORUMS". Everyone wants to be noticed, center of attention. Good for you.
do you think that a man can deal with all that stuff at once?
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"You are like a rose in a great rose field. Each rose is so beautiful to me. But if one dies... I can still look at many other roses..." God of Darkness.
He's human for feeling hurt, or pain. Broadcasting his sob sob story on diablo3.com where hundreds of people can read it, means he's just asking for pity. I'm not a big fan of whiners who want attention. He's been here for what, 3 weeks? He already wants to confide in all of us? Not a likely story, I'm not flaming him, it's just silly. Be a man and deal with your issues.
Maybe he believes that prayers will help, and that the more people who pray, the better things will turn out. Do you want to such a fucking asshole as to take away those hopes from a person who is hurting? Are you such a heartless bitch as to go ahead and do that? Have you considered the fact that maybe it wasn't for attention, but that he would like to share his story instead of keeping it inside himself?
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what the fuck....
his sister is a vegetable and his mother is dying.
and you're telling me that posting for support is bad?
all my respect to you died in this thread.
Supporting populist requests for pity from a guy none of you know is bad.
I'll really miss the respect from the greatest flooder of this forum.
Sorry, I yawned.
I know what pain is. I know how to feel pain. I know what sadness is. I don't broadcast my pain on a forum. I don't ask for pity. I definitely don't ask people to make a prayer for me. I'm not tough, I'm just not dramatic.
Lol, you can't be serious. It's much easier for me to say a prayer to him. That way, you can just type a few words and come out looking like a good guy. So for you to think being mean is easier, you would be incorrect. Being honest is much harder, being fake and giving the guy the pity that he wants, is easy.
I wish you knew the definition of a forum troll. You keep using it incorrectly. I'll forgive you, you have much to learn.
In threads like these, we can only feel sorry for the thread starter... we can't say anything about what we think. We can only be nice. What happened to the 1st Amendment?
TY, SpanishBard. I knew you were right from the start.
I am simply saying that he could not control those events. Grief and consolation help people get through these things. If he wants some, fine. Is he being selfish? I don't think so, or at least not intentionally. He wants people he can talk to about it to lift some small bit of the sorrow off his shoulders.
Just because he adds a personal touch like "vegetable" to describe what he believes his sister is experiencing does not make him a bad person, it makes him human. Just because he thought that the people here were well-intentioned and considerate, and thought that maybe he could get some consolation from people here, does not make what he did wrong. He said his family is having troubles, maybe these forums are becoming another family to him- who knows?
That doesn't really have any substance behind it, but I think what he means to say is don't start a debate in here, it isn't necessary. If you have a problem with why it should or should not be here, take it up with a moderator and they can resolve the problem based on their judgment.
The moment we debase human lives to the value of mere numbers...well... Are you not any better than those who kill? You've made all people on earth at the moment you said that dead to you. You don't care about them. This might be an extreme analogy, but that is what I see.
Maybe that's his way of communicating? Sure, he's not writing to entertain or inform the masses, but if he so chooses to make his message more personal, to open up his life completely, to the people here, then he has every right to do so. If he seeks pity, who are we to say he's undeserving of it? I'd sympathize with anyone here or in real life if they were under similar conditions.
I am honestly presenting my sentiment, and at this moment it seems very hard, since everyone seems so apt on impeding my message.
I am most certainly not being fake, or I wouldn't have wasted my time typing all of this. I care more for other humans that I don't know but whose problems are still very real more easily than you do. So be it- just because our views differ do we have to be at each others proverbial throats? You could just leave this whole thing be and let those who decide to mourn with him do so.
That was a bit harsh, don't you think?
about this discussion about "he's faking it" and "he just wants us to feel bad for him"
well answer this question:
WHAT IF YOU'RE WRONG?
And fbi, no one could give a shit if you lost all respect for them.
I don't feel sorry, but I will pray for your sister and your mother and you, and may they get better.
"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
I agree...
That was actually something worth reading.
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John, I hope everything turns out ok.
Everyone else: You should be ashamed of yourselves! You have plenty of threads to fight in, so go somewhere else to fucking fight!
John, on behalf of Diablo3.com, I appologize for how these...people...are acting.
well he should be depressed....
im not surprised...
well actually you should, because i dont like a lot of people and when i do, it's because you did something to impress me or you have something in you.
for the first time, i agree with you
im glad that someone here has some common sense
well he should be depressed....
im not surprised...
well actually you should, because i dont like a lot of people and when i do, it's because you did something to impress me or you have something in you.
I'm not sure how you could prove that as something credible. It seems sort of a random thing to say.
To all of these silly responses, "WELL MAYBE HIS POST IS LEGIT AND HE REALLY NEEDS A SHOULDER TO CRY ON"..... WELL MAYBE HIS POST ISN'T LEGIT AND HE WANTS ATTENTION? Forgive me, I just think telling everyone such a sad story on a forum, is completely silly. I think I have as much right to try and comprehend his incentive about posting such a sob sob story, as you do.
This isn't a debate about whether he has human qualities, or if he's a bad person. That's completely irrelevant. It just means he's trying to be persuasive. Why would he have to persuade anyone? Why does he have to try and give us a visual representation of what he's going through. I have no problem if he wants to cry on a shoulder. But I hate people who take advantage of our weakness for the handicapped.
Totally extreme analogy. We're human... As Equinox said, why aren't you sending prayers to the poor seals? Because we don't actually care about the seals until we see a 30 minute documentary on them. So for me to disregard his story as.. just another sad story. That makes me human just like any of you. I'm brave enough to say, I don't care when it's right in front me.
You're a nice guy. Maybe you'll help somebody one day.
The man part was an inside joke. I don't actually think that was an accurate thing to say.
You won't pray for him. You'll post in the "I'm Living in Hell" thread and pretend you'll pray for him. Hippocrite.
What could John possibly request in a PM that would actually benefit him? Money to pay for hospital bills? No you wouldn't give him anything. A shoulder to cry on? Does your digital entity have a shoulder to cry on? No. You say this, because you cowardly try and sound like a nice guy. You know full and well he has no need for you. Even if he did have a need for you. You have nothing to give. So keep playing it safe. Keep pretending to be a great guy. Kudos to you, maybe you'll trick someone into thinking you are.
I have as much right to comprehend his situation as any of you. I analyze it to be a scam for everyones attention. Just like Carlos made the "I'm QUITTING THE FORUMS". Everyone wants to be noticed, center of attention. Good for you.
do you think that a man can deal with all that stuff at once?
Maybe he believes that prayers will help, and that the more people who pray, the better things will turn out. Do you want to such a fucking asshole as to take away those hopes from a person who is hurting? Are you such a heartless bitch as to go ahead and do that? Have you considered the fact that maybe it wasn't for attention, but that he would like to share his story instead of keeping it inside himself?
It's the decisions you make when you have no time to make them that define who you are.