She's insulting, and even I can see it. How would you like to be called a tool? Or that you should not be praised for risking your life for your country? That is one of the biggest insults I can imagine throwing at them. They don't get paid much, and there aren't many benefits to it. They are injured, crippled, or tramatized from the whole thing. All they really get is a pat in the back, and the pride of having done it for their country. That there are people back home who will clap as they get off the plane, or that will salute them, someone that wil honor them in some way even if its just a knowing nod. Maybe you don't get it, but my uncle came back from Iraq and he didn't find much of this. His own family didn't honor him because they were against the war. My mom was the only relative of his that honored him, that even though she disagreed with the war she hugged him and told him he did a good job.
I'm not going to ramble on about that anymore, you should already have an idea of what I'm talking about. And if you don't, go watch the first Rambo from start to finish. And if you still don't get it, find a rope and a nice tall tree.
I never said her opinions shouldn't be heard or considered. I clearly stated that she can say what she wants. Whether she should, or whether we should not say anything about it is an entirely different case. The same principle has applied to me so many times when I make a pro-war thread, or a pro-Bush thread, or the Scientology thread, or a pro-conservative thread. A majority of those threads was me vs everyone else. No one defended my points, no one made it fair, it was 1 person (me) having to fight off everyone else who contributed to the thread. She deserves the worse.
It's an opinion stated in a thread dedicated to them. Its similar to going to a military funeral and talking about how the soldier does not deserve something this nice.
She is stupid, I call it out, and you are reacting. To me.
Or! I can do something about it. The rest of my day goes on as usual regardless of what happens here. However this forum is suffering because of her.
well said...
*sniff*
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"You are like a rose in a great rose field. Each rose is so beautiful to me. But if one dies... I can still look at many other roses..." God of Darkness.
(speaking of equinox, today is the spring equinox!!!
WOOt! :D)
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"You are like a rose in a great rose field. Each rose is so beautiful to me. But if one dies... I can still look at many other roses..." God of Darkness.
I think she has some good points and some bad points. I agree that Doctors and Scientists are important too and don't get the respect they deserve.
However I disagree with the idea that Soliders that go off when they have a gf or bf are jackasses.
So yes and no. I am not going to go through her post and say whether I agree or disagree with each point though, unless that's what your asking me to do.
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(speaking of equinox, today is the spring equinox!!!
I just have to say again, to everyone, not just that one dumb bitch, but armed forces have a special place in society, they are needed every day no matter how much you think they are, they defend our country from people who want to kill us, they server our government and do the tasks at hand, we vote for our president who in return leads our soldiers into their positions therefore making it our responsibility on what we have or soldiers do, they have no choice in what their task is but only to do it with the best of their ability with honor and courage, more than any other being on earth. If you think that soldiers are evil then you are just a dumb ass, they may be ruthless at some times but only half as much as their enemy. They must fight people with a dire hate for any American and must fight even if they disagree on what they are fighting for. You must realize that you are only a fraction of the man/woman of that of a soldier, they are the most honorable humans on earth and do not even ask for your respect although it should be demanded. If you disrespect any soldier this just shows your stupidity and ignorance on how our government works and completely takes our American rights for granted, and once again, if you disagree, please move to some shit country where their government and armed forces have no equilibrium with the common people, go die in hell.
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Dream as if you'll live forever, and live as if you'll die today. "James Dean"
Well, I for one think that murder on a grandeous scale is wonderful. YAY, SOLDIERS!
Your an idiot, once again, if everyone on earth does not have the same view on every topic their will continue to be war and violence, it's our genetics we are violent, and religion has caused every major war in the last 5000 yrs.
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Dream as if you'll live forever, and live as if you'll die today. "James Dean"
with honor and courage, more than any other being on earth.
they are the most honorable humans on earth
I understand your opinion and I don't have anything against it or whatnot but... those quotes are... only in America?
I cant come up with the words to describe the message I'm trying to get across :confused::mad:
I also wanted to add that some of those pictures of the American troops holding dead/wounded iraqi children are the most misleading pictures ever. As a result of the war, somewhere between 82,000-89,000 Iraqi civillians have died.
I have to say that some of the soldiers have dissappointed me. They torture some of the people. (The prisoneers) We should not do this. I mean that we should not be like them. They would torture prisoneers every day. We humiliate them and torture them. Some of the soldiers got prosecuted for this, but others were saved of late, because "they lost the tapes." That is a fucking joke. Our soldiers should not lower themselves to torturing them. Even though they did fight against us.
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Some of them have a right to torture, but some of them do it for fun. Some of them got a video camera out and videotaped themselves beating the crap out of the prisoners. For no reason at all. When you watch a video tape of a prisoner being beat to death almost, it shocks you. Some of the soldiers which were prosecuted did it for fun. They just wanted to beat the crap out of the iraq prisoners. i agree that we should do it to get infomration, but to video tape the brutality. Just not right.
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Yeah I know. Its terrible. Its also terrible that most republicans support torture. Even though I disagree with most of John Mccain's policies, I appreciate the fact that he doesn't support torture.
That is why I really do not like Republicans. I am more of a neutral party. The Republicans and Democrats are both good parties, but they have different reasons on the war. Can't we all get alone.:D
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Yeah I agree. Im definitely a democrat, but I wouldnt hesitate to vote for a republican if I agreed with their ideas and thought they would be most beneficial to the country as a whole. I really like the green party. It is more focused on the environment. I wouldn't be surprised if they jumped up and got some national attention in the next decade or so.
I think that we must have some wars because of evil dicators, but what George Bush did. Was kind of stupid. Weapons of Mass Destruction. Yeah right. Like WWII was a just cause to go to war, but this was not. Suddam Was all talk. I know he was an evil dictator, but to invade the country is very stupid indeed. Unless it is a just cause. I know there is more to the story of invading Iraq, but a lot of Americans have died because of it.
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Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
I think that we must have some wars because of evil dicators, but what George Bush did. Was kind of stupid. Weapons of Mass Destruction. Yeah right. Like WWII was a just cause to go to war, but this was not. Suddam Was all talk. I know he was an evil dictator, but to invade the country is very stupid indeed. Unless it is a just cause. I know there is more to the story of invading Iraq, but a lot of Americans have died because of it.
Didn't I educate you on all this?! American casualties in Iraq are a drop in the ocean compared to those murdered during Saddam's regime. Weapons of Mass Destruction may have been an excuse, just like unpaid taxes to Al Capone. Who cares if the excuse was weak, great good has come of it no?
And for you idiots, notice the media isn't really showing alot about the war. Why? It's working! They can't find anything to "report" to us, so they just don't tell us anything about it.
Many of these soldiers go and fight, knowing in their heart that what they are doing is good. They are making this world a better place. I agree with them. Apparently alot of you don't though.
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well said...
*sniff*
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
(speaking of equinox, today is the spring equinox!!!
WOOt! :D)
I think she has some good points and some bad points. I agree that Doctors and Scientists are important too and don't get the respect they deserve.
However I disagree with the idea that Soliders that go off when they have a gf or bf are jackasses.
So yes and no. I am not going to go through her post and say whether I agree or disagree with each point though, unless that's what your asking me to do.
Lol. Happy Ostara.
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
Your an idiot, once again, if everyone on earth does not have the same view on every topic their will continue to be war and violence, it's our genetics we are violent, and religion has caused every major war in the last 5000 yrs.
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
Ok, then i apologize for my last post, that is at least one thing we agree on, Im still just mad about what Equinox blindly stated.
I cant come up with the words to describe the message I'm trying to get across :confused::mad:
I found that intresting (turn down the volume though, bleh!)
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
And for you idiots, notice the media isn't really showing alot about the war. Why? It's working! They can't find anything to "report" to us, so they just don't tell us anything about it.
Many of these soldiers go and fight, knowing in their heart that what they are doing is good. They are making this world a better place. I agree with them. Apparently alot of you don't though.