We went from the greatest minds of their day, to today's most craziest jackasses in the world, interesting. Thank you Paris, Jesse Jackson, Nicol Richie, Anna Nicole Smith, Michael Moore and many others.
The US is still the greatest nation in the world. I just wish we can boot out all the jackasses that don't appreciate it and think they know better.
lets leave that behind, there can be a big, big debate (i already had a debate with Carloseus in the past about it - especially about Michael Moore) that would lead to endless flaming and i'm completely not in the mood.
lets leave that behind, there can be a big, big debate (i already had a debate with Carloseus in the past about it - especially about Michael Moore) that would lead to endless flaming and i'm completely not in the mood.
even late, happy birthday, United States.
There's nothing to debate. Everyone I listed is a jackass. End of story. If you disagree your a jackass too.
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"Pking in Softcore, is like two deaf kids yelling at each other."
lets leave that behind, there can be a big, big debate (i already had a debate with Carloseus in the past about it - especially about Michael Moore) that would lead to endless flaming and i'm completely not in the mood.
even late, happy birthday, United States.
ya, but we were both making valid points on both sides. at least it isnt as loppsided as arguments are nowadays in the forum.
Michael Moore a jackass?
He's a fat ugly bastard but you compair him with brainless freaks like Anna Nicole Smith?
who's comparing? i group them both in the same category. they both worked for the destruction of american pride and ethics. ill make a speech later, maybe a month later talking about america and what it stands for. if everyone wants, we can postpone a debate till then. political debating is coming back around, the bad taste in my mouth from huge debates in the past is leaving my mouth. the nasty disgusting debates i mean.
There's nothing to debate. Everyone I listed is a jackass. End of story. If you disagree your a jackass too.
i guess i'm a jackass, then. Cause i believe that Michael Moore tried rather to wake americans up to see the sloppy road the country is going rather than destroy something. He did show things that hurt the american pride (and keeps doing so as far as i know) but everything he showed (both Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11 that i watched) were plain facts.
I dont think you had any counter facts to those Carlos, and i think thats about where the previous debate that we had ended. Everyone to his opinion, but you didnt convince me
By the way, Moore never destroyed ethics, he tried to give the people (with Fahrenheit 9/11) a glimpse of whats really going on and how this is a "good" thing.
i guess i'm a jackass, then. Cause i believe that Michael Moore tried rather to wake americans up to see the sloppy road the country is going rather than destroy something. He did show things that hurt the american pride (and keeps doing so as far as i know) but everything he showed (both Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11 that i watched) were plain facts.
I dont think you had any counter facts to those Carlos, and i think thats about where the previous debate that we had ended. Everyone to his opinion, but you didnt convince me
By the way, Moore never destroyed ethics, he tried to give the people (with Fahrenheit 9/11) a glimpse of whats really going on and how this is a "good" thing.
Michael Moore was sewed by 25 people included in his Fahrenheit 9/11 for distorting their opinion by editing the tape to place it in order to fit his own personal point of view.
If Michael Moore made a movie like Fahrenheit 9/11 without editing it in a way to lie and deciet you may have an arguement. I understand he and you feel that he did it to awaken the US to another side of the story but why lie about it. Why not display the truth. You are supporting Michael Moore for this yet trashing the President for doing the same thing.
Michael Moore is a jackass. Not just for Fahrenheit 9/11 but for many other things. He was a lead speaker at a protest in Sacramento for free health care. His arguement to Arnold Schwartzneiger was that because he was from Germany, who has a working free health care system, that it would be applicable here in the US. First of all, Arnold is Austrian. Second, if any of you are German, how is that health care system working out for yall? Third, it does not work well in the US were 35% of the Population is illegal immagrants putting a strain on the current working Free Medical care systems in place.
This protest came after yet another incident at King Drew Medical center in Compton. That place is out of control allready because it has hardly any money to support well paid doctors or RN's because of its free health care setup. That hospital has more gun shot victims then any 15 combined hospitals in all of Southern California combined. That added with the low paid, low quality doctors and nurses, it has become a nightmare.
Michael Moore is a jackass. Rosie O'Donnell even has a hard time catching up.
You might wanna watch that movie also. It is an attack video, so there will be some name calling against Michael Moore. But there is less lying and video editing in this movie.
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"Pking in Softcore, is like two deaf kids yelling at each other."
I like Michael Moore films. Yes, I understand most of the interviews and information is heavily distorted. But from an entertainment perspective, they're simply fun to watch. And sometimes I think he makes valid points, other times I think he's way off. I at least give him credit for making people more interested in these kinds of things. A person who had little opinion on gun control, 9/11, or the healthcare crisis in America may see his movies and either agree or disagree with Moore's take. But at least that kind of viewer is now more likely to take an interest in politics and wanting to learn more about these issues.
Besides the entertainment value of his films, I've learned enough about a lot of those topics to realize how blindly bias he is about them. So I certainly can't look to him as an expert about any of these things. However, I think his content should be more for the purpose of raising questions about issues, not providing answers. But I remember when I was significantly younger than I am now and seeing his Bowling for Columbine movie. I had no real interest in gun control or the 2nd Amendment. But after seeing his movie, I realized I needed to learn more about it because I hadn't realized just how sensitive an issue it was in the U.S.
No kidding, thats gotta mean something, oh wait, i forgot we're talking America here.
How many times did he get convicted by the by, i'm curious.
He settled out of court on each instance for undisclosed $ amount. Most likely in the 100k range each incident.
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Heh? I didn't know Michael Moore was in office or has anything to do with politics, because if he isn't then please don't make such lame comparisons.
If you are going to take the time to make a movie about Politics, then he is in politics. Your a fucking dumb ass.
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LOL, Michael Moore is a jackass because he is protesting FOR free healthcare?
You are totaly fucked up.
No, he has every right to protest for free healthcare. Its a flawed system with the current laws of our nation.
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How come?
Were did all the money go to?
How much did the Iraqi war cost and how much is the Iraqi war costing every single day?
The majority of the people that go to that Hospital are on Well Fare. Government funding for lazy people that don't want to find a job. They get the medical because they cannot turn them away. Then the bills that are owed to the hospital for the operations are not payed by the persons because they are lazy and have no money. Then the government pays for percentage of the costs for whatever medical treatment for the lazy people. The percentage barely covers the cost of the actual treatment.
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Thats what you get with a fucked up governement and laws.
Guns?
Sure have some.
Free healthcare?
No we can't pay that.
and what country are you from? In the United States nothing is free. Nothing should be free. This government was created by hard working people not lazy fuckers like you are suggesting you are. If you are a hard worker you will find a way to make money to pay for guns, medical or anything else that you want. Why is it you need someone to wipe your ass for you?
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FUCKED UP!!!
The only consistant fucking moron I see here is you. I would stick to issues in your own country because you have a sad grip on mine.
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"Pking in Softcore, is like two deaf kids yelling at each other."
Sheez you are one fucked up narrow minded little piece of arrogant shit.
Let me try to summarize your pathetic opinion:
"Poor people are lazy and rich people have the right to medical care plus tax benefits that the governement sponsors with the money of the taxpayers, but they don't have the money to help the poor lazy people."
Thats about your viewpoint on life right?
Maybe in your shitty country. Here you can go from poverty to riches with hard work and effort. Take anyone that has made millions and billions that started with nothing.
Donal Trump
Bill Gates
etc etc etc
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Really?
What in the fucking name of hell do you thing taxes are for?
DUMBASS.
Well its a bit complicated so let me sumarize. Streets, Banking Insurance, Military, Social Services, Fire Department, Schools, Police and many many more. Health Care is one that could possibly operate properly but it would bring down the current standard of medical treatment availiable now.
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Why is it i indeed want to work hard to buy myself a gun and shoot a fucking bullet through your pathetic tiny head and rob all your money just so you can live the rest of your life in a gutter without the slightest chance at recovering from being an even bigger retard then you are now?
I wouldn't suggest you trying it.
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You served in Afghanistan and Iraq?
You serve the law little boy?
Yes I serve both and did/do it with pride.
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People like you shouldn't get a job, they should fucking lock you up, you are fucked up in the brain and a abomination to human kind.
Why because I believe in hard work and dedication? People like me allow people like you to exist. If it wasn't for people that work hard make money(Making money is what pays taxes) allows lazy shits like you to bottom feed off the system.
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Is your opinion seen as normal in the US?
Everyone has their own opinion.
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Learn to develop a brain before making fucked up bold statements like that.
I guarentee I am better off then you. At least I have enough for sight to indulge in a little research before opening my mouth about something. You just open your mouth and insert your foot.
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I do not have those issues in my country you miserable moron.
and yet you have not stated what country you are from. Which leads me to believe that it is more fucked up then the US.
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Why not actually think about how it comes your country has those issues and distilate them into sensible and logical opinion and conclusion without going hillbilly on me.
Fucking retard.
Its not just a two party system, why just have 2 or 3 people that you can vote for, this is more geared towards small towns when election comes, mainly due to small town corruption in some places.. but nope
notice the spaces to the left of the dark black arrows that are blank
so technically anyone thats written in that space is involved in politics
Could this have anything to do with you calling me a hillbilly??
''a negative connotation that has been greatly emphasized by how Hollywood movies and films portray the "hillbilly" as impoverished, ill-educated, toothless, shoeless, unstylish, inbred, etc''
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If you ever meet a hafling and a hungry dragon you dont have to outrun the dragon, you only have to outrun the hafling.
Well hollywood portrays anyone in the appalations as a hillbilly, I don't like the term because its way yo steryotypical, even if you go into west Virginia the people have an accent but thats all, they are normal people they just have a bad reputation... freaking media making us all look like rednecks... and to answer your question no, but the use of the word got to me... especially in an argument, if its as a joke then its fine git er dun lol
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If you ever meet a hafling and a hungry dragon you dont have to outrun the dragon, you only have to outrun the hafling.
Well hollywood portrays anyone in the appalations as a hillbilly, I don't like the term because its way yo steryotypical, even if you go into west Virginia the people have an accent but thats all, they are normal people they just have a bad reputation... freaking media making us all look like rednecks... and to answer your question no, but the use of the word got to me... especially in an argument, if its as a joke then its fine git er dun lol
I was born raised in one of the States highest populist areas. I find that people from rural areas are generally friendlier and more down to earth then the community standard of my area.
I have ventured into quite a few backhole area's in Tennessee. When I retire, I will most likely try and become a resident of those parts or Nebraska.
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"Pking in Softcore, is like two deaf kids yelling at each other."
Its nice, no hustle and bustle of the city, peacefull. Some people complain that nothing ever happens, so would you rather live where people get shot on a daily basis or where nothing happens? One of the best things is knowing everyone, at my highschool I knew almost every kid from 7th to 12th, in a city school your lucky to know your grade. Where abouts you from?? Im about 5 miles outside of the Flight 93 crash site, its a small town lol.
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If you ever meet a hafling and a hungry dragon you dont have to outrun the dragon, you only have to outrun the hafling.
This the reason its called a WRITE IN VOTE?? really?? I do remember an election where they have gotten 30 some % of the votes?? thats not to shabby for not having party background. A typical election their is roughly 10% that doesnt go to the major political parties, not enough to get elected but thats 7 million votes for non major party people. Im not talking about the 3rd part... the green party I belive, no one votes for Ralph Nader nothing new that, its been like that for the past 10 elections he ran in. But even if they get .001% of the votes they still ran and are in politics
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If you ever meet a hafling and a hungry dragon you dont have to outrun the dragon, you only have to outrun the hafling.
Dopple why don't you just come out with the truth. The truth that you don't live in a Country better then the US.
The more you post the more people smell your bullcrap. Just keep on quoting me and making yourself look like a dipshit.
Hopefully we can get you to do it enough to get you booted permenantly. If you take accumalative all your posts and arguements that have no basis, it adds up to you being a forum troll. You pick arguments to debutt without any true knowledge of the subject. I find you and your actions annoying.
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"Pking in Softcore, is like two deaf kids yelling at each other."
Where did dying come into play??
Living where nothing happens, no bankrobberies, no murderes or living in a bad section of city where people get robbed or shot... seems a bit onesided doesn't it, or did I explain it wrong.
Anyhow, I'd love to stay and chat but I have to go support lazy bums on welfare earlier tomorrow... cyall till tomorrow.
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If you ever meet a hafling and a hungry dragon you dont have to outrun the dragon, you only have to outrun the hafling.
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even late, happy birthday, United States.
There's nothing to debate. Everyone I listed is a jackass. End of story. If you disagree your a jackass too.
http://us.battle.net...ile/vadle-1714/
http://us.battle.net...4/hero/34530475
ya, but we were both making valid points on both sides. at least it isnt as loppsided as arguments are nowadays in the forum.
who's comparing? i group them both in the same category. they both worked for the destruction of american pride and ethics. ill make a speech later, maybe a month later talking about america and what it stands for. if everyone wants, we can postpone a debate till then. political debating is coming back around, the bad taste in my mouth from huge debates in the past is leaving my mouth. the nasty disgusting debates i mean.
i guess i'm a jackass, then. Cause i believe that Michael Moore tried rather to wake americans up to see the sloppy road the country is going rather than destroy something. He did show things that hurt the american pride (and keeps doing so as far as i know) but everything he showed (both Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11 that i watched) were plain facts.
I dont think you had any counter facts to those Carlos, and i think thats about where the previous debate that we had ended. Everyone to his opinion, but you didnt convince me
By the way, Moore never destroyed ethics, he tried to give the people (with Fahrenheit 9/11) a glimpse of whats really going on and how this is a "good" thing.
Michael Moore was sewed by 25 people included in his Fahrenheit 9/11 for distorting their opinion by editing the tape to place it in order to fit his own personal point of view.
If Michael Moore made a movie like Fahrenheit 9/11 without editing it in a way to lie and deciet you may have an arguement. I understand he and you feel that he did it to awaken the US to another side of the story but why lie about it. Why not display the truth. You are supporting Michael Moore for this yet trashing the President for doing the same thing.
Michael Moore is a jackass. Not just for Fahrenheit 9/11 but for many other things. He was a lead speaker at a protest in Sacramento for free health care. His arguement to Arnold Schwartzneiger was that because he was from Germany, who has a working free health care system, that it would be applicable here in the US. First of all, Arnold is Austrian. Second, if any of you are German, how is that health care system working out for yall? Third, it does not work well in the US were 35% of the Population is illegal immagrants putting a strain on the current working Free Medical care systems in place.
This protest came after yet another incident at King Drew Medical center in Compton. That place is out of control allready because it has hardly any money to support well paid doctors or RN's because of its free health care setup. That hospital has more gun shot victims then any 15 combined hospitals in all of Southern California combined. That added with the low paid, low quality doctors and nurses, it has become a nightmare.
Michael Moore is a jackass. Rosie O'Donnell even has a hard time catching up.
http://www.amazon.com/Fahrenhype-9-11-Dick-Morris/dp/B00068VAOG/ref=pd_bbs_6/105-0754950-2001200?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1184191825&sr=8-6
You might wanna watch that movie also. It is an attack video, so there will be some name calling against Michael Moore. But there is less lying and video editing in this movie.
http://us.battle.net...ile/vadle-1714/
http://us.battle.net...4/hero/34530475
Besides the entertainment value of his films, I've learned enough about a lot of those topics to realize how blindly bias he is about them. So I certainly can't look to him as an expert about any of these things. However, I think his content should be more for the purpose of raising questions about issues, not providing answers. But I remember when I was significantly younger than I am now and seeing his Bowling for Columbine movie. I had no real interest in gun control or the 2nd Amendment. But after seeing his movie, I realized I needed to learn more about it because I hadn't realized just how sensitive an issue it was in the U.S.
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He settled out of court on each instance for undisclosed $ amount. Most likely in the 100k range each incident.
If you are going to take the time to make a movie about Politics, then he is in politics. Your a fucking dumb ass.
No, he has every right to protest for free healthcare. Its a flawed system with the current laws of our nation.
The majority of the people that go to that Hospital are on Well Fare. Government funding for lazy people that don't want to find a job. They get the medical because they cannot turn them away. Then the bills that are owed to the hospital for the operations are not payed by the persons because they are lazy and have no money. Then the government pays for percentage of the costs for whatever medical treatment for the lazy people. The percentage barely covers the cost of the actual treatment.
and what country are you from? In the United States nothing is free. Nothing should be free. This government was created by hard working people not lazy fuckers like you are suggesting you are. If you are a hard worker you will find a way to make money to pay for guns, medical or anything else that you want. Why is it you need someone to wipe your ass for you?
The only consistant fucking moron I see here is you. I would stick to issues in your own country because you have a sad grip on mine.
http://us.battle.net...ile/vadle-1714/
http://us.battle.net...4/hero/34530475
Yeah, its called a write in vote, you can vote for anyone, Chuck Norris, Mickey Mouse, Jack Daniels, so I guess he is in politics according to that.
A campain manager, is he in politics?? Typicaly you dont vote for him do we?? But I'd say he is in politics.
Maybe in your shitty country. Here you can go from poverty to riches with hard work and effort. Take anyone that has made millions and billions that started with nothing.
Donal Trump
Bill Gates
etc etc etc
Well its a bit complicated so let me sumarize. Streets, Banking Insurance, Military, Social Services, Fire Department, Schools, Police and many many more. Health Care is one that could possibly operate properly but it would bring down the current standard of medical treatment availiable now.
I wouldn't suggest you trying it.
Yes I serve both and did/do it with pride.
Why because I believe in hard work and dedication? People like me allow people like you to exist. If it wasn't for people that work hard make money(Making money is what pays taxes) allows lazy shits like you to bottom feed off the system.
Everyone has their own opinion.
I guarentee I am better off then you. At least I have enough for sight to indulge in a little research before opening my mouth about something. You just open your mouth and insert your foot.
and yet you have not stated what country you are from. Which leads me to believe that it is more fucked up then the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillbillies
I don't even remotely come close to a Hillbilly and I wasn't even aware that there was a way to go Hillbilly on someone.
Dopple you seriously need to do some research into the US. Either your own head, or someone is giving you bad information.
http://us.battle.net...ile/vadle-1714/
http://us.battle.net...4/hero/34530475
notice the spaces to the left of the dark black arrows that are blank
so technically anyone thats written in that space is involved in politics
Could this have anything to do with you calling me a hillbilly??
''a negative connotation that has been greatly emphasized by how Hollywood movies and films portray the "hillbilly" as impoverished, ill-educated, toothless, shoeless, unstylish, inbred, etc''
http://us.battle.net...ile/vadle-1714/
http://us.battle.net...4/hero/34530475
I was born raised in one of the States highest populist areas. I find that people from rural areas are generally friendlier and more down to earth then the community standard of my area.
I have ventured into quite a few backhole area's in Tennessee. When I retire, I will most likely try and become a resident of those parts or Nebraska.
http://us.battle.net...ile/vadle-1714/
http://us.battle.net...4/hero/34530475
The more you post the more people smell your bullcrap. Just keep on quoting me and making yourself look like a dipshit.
Hopefully we can get you to do it enough to get you booted permenantly. If you take accumalative all your posts and arguements that have no basis, it adds up to you being a forum troll. You pick arguments to debutt without any true knowledge of the subject. I find you and your actions annoying.
http://us.battle.net...ile/vadle-1714/
http://us.battle.net...4/hero/34530475
Living where nothing happens, no bankrobberies, no murderes or living in a bad section of city where people get robbed or shot... seems a bit onesided doesn't it, or did I explain it wrong.
Anyhow, I'd love to stay and chat but I have to go support lazy bums on welfare earlier tomorrow... cyall till tomorrow.